Jonah Died and went to Hell
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just a personal observation here
it seems to me that many start threads to support what they already believe, rather than the thought of asking questions with the view to considering the answer
I've certainly done it, but I really do not start threads anymore...rather than the one about what the blood of Christ has secured for us, which went bust due to an individual who used it as a vehicle for his own persuasions
ah yes. nothing like the BDF
alas, I seem to enjoy a little conflict...keeps the old noodle working
it seems to me that many start threads to support what they already believe, rather than the thought of asking questions with the view to considering the answer
I've certainly done it, but I really do not start threads anymore...rather than the one about what the blood of Christ has secured for us, which went bust due to an individual who used it as a vehicle for his own persuasions
ah yes. nothing like the BDF
alas, I seem to enjoy a little conflict...keeps the old noodle working
And I do see your point. I would hope that those who do as you describe would be open to gentle prodding to inform that they are mistaken in what they think they know. Being wrong about Exegesis, or any particular subject in Bible studies and that particularly concerns the foundation of one's faith, I would think would be a problem for that one who holds faith. They'd want to know the right answer, the right way to see scripture, the right understanding that informs, the Bible wasn't written in English first, etc...
And you and I both have encountered those types of people.
The one's that are the counter to that, that resort to bad manners in order to rebuke or assail those who do know what they're talking about are not, in my view, actually interested in learning how to study the Bible, or to learn what the different study subjects actually entail. And I think enough of us here who have encountered that particular mind set are able to discern them and their actual motives, from those aforementioned members who truly wish to learn and have their faith blossom due to right information being shared.
You're noodle by the way is just fine. Some could say you're a whole bowl of spaghetti. And we love you for it.
Sincerely,
meatball.
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what is actually more than enough?
is that when someone thinks they have found a persuasive article that clearly indicates to them that they are right?
actually, no, the Jews do not believe in hell the way you seem to be representing it in this thread...in fact some do not even believe in an afterlife. period...while some believe in reincarnation
google it. nothing is written in stone. save perhaps the 10 commandments
is that when someone thinks they have found a persuasive article that clearly indicates to them that they are right?
actually, no, the Jews do not believe in hell the way you seem to be representing it in this thread...in fact some do not even believe in an afterlife. period...while some believe in reincarnation
google it. nothing is written in stone. save perhaps the 10 commandments
There....better?
Rev 20v14 is actually Death and Hades was thrown into the lake of fire.
Here is proof from the Greek..
Strongs
http://www.godrules.net/library/strongs2b/gre86.htm
So its Death and Hades that is thrown into the Lake of Fire and NOT Death and Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire.
KJV is getting this wrong consistently. NKJV gets it right.
Here is proof from the Greek..
Strongs
http://www.godrules.net/library/strongs2b/gre86.htm
So its Death and Hades that is thrown into the Lake of Fire and NOT Death and Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire.
KJV is getting this wrong consistently. NKJV gets it right.
The Book of Revelation proves you are mistaken in this errant proclamation of yours.
Rather than provide the chapters as anyone doing so thus far have had no success in leading you to understanding contrary to your own missives, I'll direct you instead to the Book of Revelation. Wherein we are told NO ONE is yet in Hell.
And add a warning from that Book. If you add to that or deny that, you are condemned.
"And if anyone should take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, of those having been written in this book."
Rather than provide the chapters as anyone doing so thus far have had no success in leading you to understanding contrary to your own missives, I'll direct you instead to the Book of Revelation. Wherein we are told NO ONE is yet in Hell.
And add a warning from that Book. If you add to that or deny that, you are condemned.
"And if anyone should take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, of those having been written in this book."
Ease up. The KJV has the wrong translation. Its translating Hades into "Hell" in English. Much of the confusion is arising because of this. He and @watcher2013 are quoting from the KJV and that is why confusion reigns. Fix that and the theology corrects itself.
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Good post. Thank you.
And I do see your point. I would hope that those who do as you describe would be open to gentle prodding to inform that they are mistaken in what they think they know. Being wrong about Exegesis, or any particular subject in Bible studies and that particularly concerns the foundation of one's faith, I would think would be a problem for that one who holds faith. They'd want to know the right answer, the right way to see scripture, the right understanding that informs, the Bible wasn't written in English first, etc...
And you and I both have encountered those types of people.
The one's that are the counter to that, that resort to bad manners in order to rebuke or assail those who do know what they're talking about are not, in my view, actually interested in learning how to study the Bible, or to learn what the different study subjects actually entail. And I think enough of us here who have encountered that particular mind set are able to discern them and their actual motives, from those aforementioned members who truly wish to learn and have their faith blossom due to right information being shared.
You're noodle by the way is just fine. Some could say you're a whole bowl of spaghetti. And we love you for it.
Sincerely,
meatball.
And I do see your point. I would hope that those who do as you describe would be open to gentle prodding to inform that they are mistaken in what they think they know. Being wrong about Exegesis, or any particular subject in Bible studies and that particularly concerns the foundation of one's faith, I would think would be a problem for that one who holds faith. They'd want to know the right answer, the right way to see scripture, the right understanding that informs, the Bible wasn't written in English first, etc...
And you and I both have encountered those types of people.
The one's that are the counter to that, that resort to bad manners in order to rebuke or assail those who do know what they're talking about are not, in my view, actually interested in learning how to study the Bible, or to learn what the different study subjects actually entail. And I think enough of us here who have encountered that particular mind set are able to discern them and their actual motives, from those aforementioned members who truly wish to learn and have their faith blossom due to right information being shared.
You're noodle by the way is just fine. Some could say you're a whole bowl of spaghetti. And we love you for it.
Sincerely,
meatball.
mmmmm spaghetti....thank you meatball
I am in agreement with your observations on 'good manners'
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Typo, I meant to say Hades (Sheol)
And no this is not a precedent at all. But God is sovereign and can do as HE wishes. And in this case He restored Jonah to his body from Hades.
Hell is only occupied later:
- First two people into Hell are the Beast and False Prophet
- Followed by the Dragon 1000 years later (3rd being into Hell)
- Followed by all the Goats On the Day of Judgement.
And no this is not a precedent at all. But God is sovereign and can do as HE wishes. And in this case He restored Jonah to his body from Hades.
Hell is only occupied later:
- First two people into Hell are the Beast and False Prophet
- Followed by the Dragon 1000 years later (3rd being into Hell)
- Followed by all the Goats On the Day of Judgement.