Why pastors and preachers should not be receiving salaries

[BillG]

Yes, so what? Your going to accuse me of using things beyond my basic needs? Then let me tell you I never preached with a salary before and I’m using these things from my own labor outside of church. I’m not guilty of the same things I speak out against so boo.

Whoa whoa.

Please do not get defensive and attack me.
I have not done that to you.
I never said you were guilty of the things you speak about.

I just wanted you to clarify and then further discuss with you.

It seems no further discussion is needed as it takes two.

 

[Enxu]

Are you a pastor of a church?

No.

 

[Enxu]

Whoa whoa.

Please do not get defensive and attack me.
I have not done that to you.
I never said you were guilty of the things you speak about.

I just wanted you to clarify and then further discuss with you.

It seems no further discussion is needed as it takes two.

Look at the false accusations thrown at me early about how I’m using internet, wearing a shoe etc and you know why I’m saying what I’m saying. Too many hypocrites around.

 

[BillG]

Look at the false accusations thrown at me early about how I’m using internet, wearing a shoe etc and you know why I’m saying what I’m saying. Too many hypocrites around.

Did I falsely accuse you?

 

[watcher2013]

But collections today are never distributed among believers who are not Teachers are they? How much of the collections are used to help the poor and widow sitting in the pews?

That is the problem...most of preachers are too rich...while some members suffer...to those preachers i said....be a truer christian.

 

[BillG]

No.

So you have never preached as a leader of a church?

 

[BillG]

That is the problem...most of preachers are too rich...while some members suffer...to those preachers i said....be a truer christian.

What about members in the church who are rich as well?
Would you tell them the same.
"Be a truer Christian"

 

[Enxu]

What about members in the church who are rich as well?
Would you tell them the same.
"Be a truer Christian"

Of course but that’s not the topic of this thread.

 

[Enxu]

So you have never preached as a leader of a church?

No.

 

[BillG]

Did I falsely accuse you?

@Enxu

Gonna answer the above?

 

[EleventhHour]

Yawn.......... @EleventhHour you believe this guy.....one contradictory statement after another....and he accused me of loving money and being greedy.....another joker!

"Exnu" is a disciple of banned member gaviraachristian, the one who had prepaid all his future life expenses and asks for a donation of gold on his website.

If you follow a false teacher that is the only outcome... contradictory statements and false accusations.

 

[Enxu]

@Enxu

Gonna answer the above?

So far no. But there are still malicious hypocrites accusing me of being disciples of people I’ve never met. Just look below.

 

[Enxu]

"Exnu" is a disciple of banned member gaviraachristian, the one who had prepaid all his future life expenses and asks for a donation of gold on his website.

If you follow a false teacher that is the only outcome... contradictory statements and false accusations.

Lol. Prove what you said then.

 

[EleventhHour]

Lol. Prove what you said then.

You have stated you have read his materials, which means you have learned from him .. a disciple is someone who learns from someone else... I have learned from others too... thankfully all teachers with truth.

 

[Enxu]

You have stated you have read his materials, which means you have learned from him .. a disciple is someone who learns from someone else... I have learned from others too... thankfully all teachers with truth.

Will it shock you that I don’t agree with everything that he said? Just because I read someone’s works doesn’t mean I’m their disciple. Carry on with your lame accusations of falsehood.

 

[BillG]

So far no. But there are still malicious hypocrites accusing me of being disciples of people I’ve never met. Just look below.

So why attack me?

 

[EleventhHour]

So far no. But there are still malicious hypocrites accusing me of being disciples of people I’ve never met. Just look below.

Wow you sure are defensive... I have been a disciple ( a learner ) ... you stated very clearly on another thread you read his materials.
You reiterate his teachings so I think my assertion is valid.

 

[EleventhHour]

Will it shock you that I don’t agree with everything that he said? Just because I read someone’s works doesn’t mean I’m their disciple. Carry on with your lame accusations of falsehood.

I would count that a good thing hopefully depending on what it is of course.

 

[EleventhHour]

Will it shock you that I don’t agree with everything that he said? Just because I read someone’s works doesn’t mean I’m their disciple. Carry on with your lame accusations of falsehood.

Here is some help... you have covered your profile now but perhaps English is not your first language.

The word “disciple” literally means learner.

 

[Enxu]

Wow you sure are defensive... I have been a disciple ( a learner ) ... you stated very clearly on another thread you read his materials.
You reiterate his teachings so I think my assertion is valid.

He was talking about the mark of the beast. I never said it was 100% true, I’m just considering the evidences. I focused on the evil of fiat system rather than the mark. If reading an article makes me someone’s disciple I can only say LOL. I’m not so careless as to consider just anyone on the internet as a teacher. Your assertion means nothing and is false.