Why pastors and preachers should not be receiving salaries

[Dino246]

I don’t even need to prove it, rich false pastors are all over the TV and computer screens. I’ve just not named them yet. It’s your burden of proof to show me the majority of rich preachers are not false.

No, it isn't, because I didn't make that assertion.

 

[Enxu]

Quote me where I disagree with Jesus' words.

You disagree with my stance that pastors should not be paid salaries, and salaries paid to pastors are often about getting rich and is way beyond what is necessary for basic needs. You’ve just disagreed with Jesus’ words about freely giving the Gospel as we’ve freely received.

 

[Enxu]

No, it isn't, because I didn't make that assertion.

You asserted that not all wealthy preachers preach false doctrines: which is equivalent to saying not all rich pastors are false preachers. It is your burden to proof that.

 

[Enxu]

And do they use currency?

Yes. What they use is their choice, I can only tell them how its evil and discourage that like I’m doing here. But if I don’t tell them and keep quiet I’m guilty of their blood.

 

[Enxu]

A preacher asking for money for covering church expenses is perfectly reasonable, though it is better that the asking be done by another elder.

How are those church expenses reasonable when it’s just about making the pews nicer to sit on, paint the walls with a new shade of colours and getting the latest gadgets to make things more appealing to the five senses?

All such expenses are used to appeal to the flesh, and we are asked to crucify the flesh along with its passions and lusts. A logical contradiction yet again.

 

[EleventhHour]

Yes. What they use is their choice, I can only tell them how its evil and discourage that like I’m doing here. But if I don’t tell them and keep quiet I’m guilty of their blood.

Yet you are willing to receive food purchased via evil money and you are still subsisting via the system.

Seems to me that any product acquired and used through the use of evil money should be a problem for you to possess or use.

 

[Enxu]

Yet you are willing to receive food purchased via evil money and you are still subsisting via the system.

Seems to me that any product acquired and used through the use of evil money should be a problem for you to possess or use.

You only know how to falsely accuse. I never asked them to use currency to get what I need to begin with, in fact I warned against that. There are many ways to get around the system but if they don’t want to do it it’s not my fault. In fact if everyone started discarding the system it will implode and all of us will be free from it, but obviously it won’t happen because people find excuses and shift blame.

Try telling those who give to the poor that they are guilty because they’ve given to those who pretended to be poor but are in fact liars. Even an atheist will tell you that it is the receiver who is guilty and not the giver.

 

[EleventhHour]

You only know how to falsely accuse. I never asked them to use currency to get what I need to begin with, in fact I warned against that. There are many ways to get around the system but if they don’t want to do it it’s not my fault. In fact if everyone started discarding the system it will implode and all of us will be free from it, but obviously it won’t happen because people find excuses and shift blame.

Try telling those who give to the poor that they are guilty because they’ve given to those who pretended to be poor but are in fact liars. Even an atheist will tell you that it is the receiver who is guilty and not the giver.

It does not matter anyway you see sin where there isn't any.

 

[dcontroversal]

Receiving salaries is totally different from being supported by the church for BASIC NEEDS. Mock on, you are just showing in front of everyone what your heart is set on: riches rather than God.

yawnnnn....another false accusation....man, you are not doing very good...contradictory statements, scripture out of context, denied scripture, false allegations and accusations and a personal vendetta.....not good at all man!

 

[Enxu]

yawnnnn....another false accusation....man, you are not doing very good...contradictory statements, scripture out of context, denied scripture, false allegations and accusations and a personal vendetta.....not good at all man!

It is not good when you are defending against a corrupt way of preaching the Gospel and excusing the greed of preachers. You have also falsely accused me of many things but you don’t seem to see the beam in your own eyes.

 

[Enxu]

It does not matter anyway you see sin where there isn't any.

I see sin based on my convictions. You guys see sin but say it’s not sin, and then say someone’s sinning when they are getting rid of sin, that’s calling evil good and good evil.

 

[dcontroversal]

I see sin based on my convictions. You guys see sin but say it’s not sin, and then say someone’s sinning when they are getting rid of sin, that’s calling evil good and good evil.

Yawn.......... @EleventhHour you believe this guy.....one contradictory statement after another....and he accused me of loving money and being greedy.....another joker!

 

[rily51jean]

All of God’s priests, apostles and prophets were allowed to receive material goods from believers because they had the primary job of preaching the truth and the Gospel. Those material goods were received ONLY to satisfy their most basic needs like food, water, clothing and shelter.

But modern day constitutional Churches turned the job of preaching into an enterprise, and instead of receiving material things to satisfy only basic needs, pastors and teachers are getting rich from preaching while most of the hearers who give them money are poorer than them or live in poverty. The poor are ignored while the preachers get millions of income. This is against the very teachings of Jesus and His apostles. Even the apostle Paul supported his ministry through tent making, to set a good example.

Repent you leaders of the church.

Well, if they're only preaching the traditions of men, and they're not preaching the true word of God, you don't owe them tithes. The problem is also people being ignorant of the true word of God,not studying themselves, and allowing themselves to be ripped off by false "Super-"Preachers.

 

[Enxu]

Yawn.......... @EleventhHour you believe this guy.....one contradictory statement after another....and he accused me of loving money and being greedy.....another joker!

You’re saying the same thing about yourself aren’t you? You’ve accused me falsely on many more things in your list:

contradictory statements, scripture out of context, denied scripture, false allegations and accusations and a personal vendetta

Jesus had a specific term for this kind of action: hypocrisy. Accusing others of the same things you do is exactly that.

Whether my statement about you loving money rather than God is false remains to be seen. But just to be conscience clear, I apologise to you for any false accusations.

 

[dcontroversal]

Well, if they're only preaching the traditions of men, and they're not preaching the true word of God, you don't owe them tithes. The problem is also people being ignorant of the true word of God,not studying themselves, and allowing themselves to be ripped off by false "Super-"Preachers.

Yeah I don't see that in the churches that I have been in...the congregation sets the salary of who ever is filling the pulpit......

 

[dcontroversal]

You’re saying the same thing about yourself aren’t you? You’ve accused me falsely on many more things in your list:



Jesus had a specific term for this kind of action: hypocrisy

Except everything I said is correct.....and you accusing me of loving money and being greedy is false...try again pal

 

[dcontroversal]

You’re saying the same thing about yourself aren’t you? You’ve accused me falsely on many more things in your list:



Jesus had a specific term for this kind of action: hypocrisy

Whether my statement about you loving money rather than God is false remains to be seen. But just to be conscience clear, I apologise to you for any false accusations.

Try studying the Greek word"s" <--plural, where the word hypocrisy comes from then apply it correctly

 

[Enxu]

Well, if they're only preaching the traditions of men, and they're not preaching the true word of God, you don't owe them tithes. The problem is also people being ignorant of the true word of God,not studying themselves, and allowing themselves to be ripped off by false "Super-"Preachers.

I’ve visited many Churches, I’ve not heard the true and complete Gospel from every single one of them that had salaried pastors. They either don’t talk about sin and repentance (as though these terms don’t exist in the Bible) and instead preach hyper grace, teach the Calvinism lies, or go all out to talk about getting wealthy or successful in this world by promoting the love of money.

 

[Enxu]

Except everything I said is correct.....and you accusing me of loving money and being greedy is false...try again pal

Yeah, you’re correct in your own mind. You don’t even have the humility to admit that you could be wrong. That’s pride and is a sin, but obviously you will say I’m accusing you falsely again. A tree is known by its fruits: Farewell.

 

[dcontroversal]

Yeah, you’re correct in your own mind. You don’t even have the humility to admit that you could be wrong. That’s pride. Farewell.

Nice try.....and when I am wrong I have no problen saying I was wrong.....and the 5 things I said were correct ...

a. You contradicted yourself with the OP and then saying you never said that

b. Your premise reeks of a vendetta against paid pastors

c. You disregard verses that prove you wrong

d. You twist and embellish scripture to try and prove your stance

e. You falsely accused me of loving money and being greedy

All 5 above are true, valid statements......and the funny thing....you don't know me, know what I have done in my life when it comes to money and without even asking you say I love money and am greedy.....

Take your own medicine man