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EleventhHour

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why are you such a worldly person that you enjoy weightlifting and finances? be careful that you dont lose your salvation. Jesus wasnt lifting weights or busy with finances, He was too busy doing the Father's will and being about His business. arent you supposed to follow Jesus instead of your own interest? too bad you are still stuck in the flesh and not focusing on Jesus. unsaved i would say.

this is how you guys talk to us ^
this is how i can give it back to you hypocrite. its easy to point fingers.

So true Melach... good one!!
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
The truth is you’re flattering yourself by thinking I was trying to flatter you. Now heed what you just wrote about flatterers not entering the kingdom of heaven.
Ack!...My bad! Here I thought you were "flattering" me, by mocking me!

Keep it up though!

Yer doing your jesus proud!

But, you know that already, doncha? ;)
 
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EleventhHour

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The sad reality the apostles faced was believers who tasted the presence of the Holy Spirit and His work, and still walked away.
They were unsure how to class these individuals, saved yet lost, knowing the Kingdom and walking in it, yet rebelling and gone into darkness.

Heb 10:26-27
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
but only a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

Why can you not just let yourself believe?

I really just do not get it..... what exactly did you trust Jesus for if not for eternal life?
 

Chris1975

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Read that verse in context... it is a reference to the old covenant.

By stating that no sacrifice for sin is left in Hebrews 10:26, the author of Hebrews is making a very similar point to that made in Hebrews 6, namely, that the Hebrew Christians came to recognize that the Levitical sacrificial system did not grant them eternal life or forgiveness of sins. This came only through Jesus.
Peddling fiction. Not even your friends here will attest to this interpretation.
 

PS

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eternal life doesnt mean just existing forever. its also knowing God and who He has sent
John 17:3 New International Version (NIV)3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
1Jn 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
Your first mistake.
And you seriously consider yourself a "Christian?"

I've seen nothing but mocking, and scoffing, and name calling, in futile attempts at bullying people.

Haven't seen any teaching! A whole lotta "brown nosing", in your "trying to creep in unawares!'

Which is SO the "modus operendi" of "the destroyer" of the faith!
 

Lightskin

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And you seriously consider yourself a "Christian?"

I've seen nothing but mocking, and scoffing, and name calling, in futile attempts at bullying people.

Haven't seen any teaching! A whole lotta "brown nosing", in your "trying to creep in unawares!'

Which is SO the "modus operendi" of "the destroyer" of the faith!
It’s amazing to see someone (you) guilty of mocking, scoffing, name calling and attempted bullying to accuse others of those tactics. It’s nook nook time for you. 🍼
 

VCO

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I you are the person who really likes the flavor of flavored creamer and sweetener in YOUR MOURNING COFFEE,
Do Not go back to straight Black Coffee, if you do not want to taste YULK!
 

Chris1975

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I am definitely not on your planet... planet "QuasiSave"
Please if you can find any official commentary supporting the assertions you have made over this passage, please post the link here. Otherwise this is just the EHT (Eleventh Hour Translation) version of events. It's disingenuous.
 
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EleventhHour

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Please if you can find any official commentary supporting the assertions you have made over this passage, please post the link here. Otherwise this is just the EHT (Eleventh Hour Translation) version of events. It's disingenuous.
Which assertion that the Levitical system did not save?
 

PS

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There is a word or phrase for sabotaging a discussion, I just forget what it is.
 

Chris1975

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Which assertion that the Levitical system did not save?
This Statement of yours below.....
"Read that verse in context... it is a reference to the old covenant.
By stating that no sacrifice for sin is left in Hebrews 10:26, the author of Hebrews is making a very similar point to that made in Hebrews 6, namely, that the Hebrew Christians came to recognize that the Levitical sacrificial system did not grant them eternal life or forgiveness of sins. This came only through Jesus. "


Particular focus on Hebrews 10v26. Looking for the official commentary which links Hebrews 10v26 to the Levitical system.
 

Chris1975

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This Statement of yours below.....
"Read that verse in context... it is a reference to the old covenant.
By stating that no sacrifice for sin is left in Hebrews 10:26, the author of Hebrews is making a very similar point to that made in Hebrews 6, namely, that the Hebrew Christians came to recognize that the Levitical sacrificial system did not grant them eternal life or forgiveness of sins. This came only through Jesus. "


Particular focus on Hebrews 10v26. Looking for the official commentary which links Hebrews 10v26 to the Levitical system.
Here is the passage:

Hebrews 10v26
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 

DeighAnn

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He accused me....Satan is the accuser of the brethern....funny how they SIN while accusing us of SIN and then claim to be pure.....a bunch of clowns and jokers they are

Matt 5:22
I however say to you that everyone being angry with the brother of him liable will be to the judgment; whoever now shall say to brother of him Raca liable will be to the Sanhedrin; whoever now shall say, Fool, liable will be to the hell of fire.

4469 rhaka
empty (an expression of contempt), foolish

3474 moros
dull, stupid, foolish, a fool
properly, dull (insipid) flat (figuratively) mentally inert, dull in understanding; nonsensical (moronic) lacking a grip on reality (acting as though "brainless)



Yeah....study the words....I did not do what you accused me of and if you cannot post applicable truth, mind your own business....NOW...call him down for accusing me if you have any integrity!
The rest is pragmatics, you know, what the speaker's intentions and beliefs are.

In case it has slipped your mind, THIS IS OUR BODY. And as for the NOW, tempting as you have made it, NO.
 

Melach

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@Lightskin ... here is a snippet from the transcript... this tells you not to bother

have to be born again we have to be like
27:43
God we have to without holiness no one's
27:46
gonna see the Lord so we have to be
27:49
changed and we have to become like God

Didn't Satan want to be like God :unsure:
thank God i didnt waste time with that.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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How do you perceive the following:

Psalm 68:11 -

NASB -
The Lord gives the command; The women who proclaim the good tidings are a great host:

BSB -
The Lord gives the command; a great company of women proclaim it:

HCSB -
The Lord gave the command; a great company of women brought the good news:

ISV -
The Lord issues a command. Numerous are the women who announce the news

YLT -
The Lord doth give the saying, The female proclaimers are a numerous host.

____________

On another note:

[NT] - "2605 kataggéllō (from 2596 /katá, "according to, down to a point," intensifying aggellō, "declare, announce") – properly, exactly, decisively announce; to herald (proclaim) a message in a definite (binding) way."

--used in Acts 4:2kjv - "Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached [G2605] through Jesus the resurrection from the dead."

--used in 1 Corinthians 11:26 - "For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim [G2605] the Lord’s death until He comes."

[so according to you, "women" should not partake of the Lord's Supper because it says, as often as you [do this] "YOU PROCLAIM [G2605]" [<--insert the above definition of G2605]... until He comes (which would, according to you, be ____ , what?? a shame? forbidden? or at least "lol-worthy" :D ])]



And what about those in Psalm 68:11 (above)? Are you reading the second half of that verse as a "rebuke" of sorts??

lol