Disagreeing and Hate

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Did you know that Jesus came to divide?

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Disagreements are actually GOOD also.

1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Co 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

You see the GOOD and APPROVED were even being kicked out from the local congregations. So who had the Good? - the congregation are the one thrown out? - obviously some that were thrown out. So divisions and disagreements can be good.

So when isn't debate and disagreement good? - when it turns to hate!

You see when your disagreement turns to attacks on the person or your take pleasure in opposing another then you war against flesh and blood and no longer against the spirit. You need to keep your disagreements focus on the spiritual principle of ideas and opinions and not against the person.

Eph_6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 

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OK, here I go.
Dear God,
Me here. Why is it that in a very short period of time our community of the Net gathered Ekklesia, and in your name, have to witness at least two new members arriving and who misrepresent your words to us?
First we have someone, at least they're the first I noticed, who says you do not so love the whole world. Now we have this. There are more I'm sure.
Why? Is this Satan at work delivering something that in the end has a punchline you saw coming? But we're yet to figure out?
If so, please understand my concern, as I know you saw that coming, and tally ho! :D Sincerely, well, you know.
 
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Did you know that Jesus came to divide?

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Disagreements are actually GOOD also.

1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Co 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

You see the GOOD and APPROVED were even being kicked out from the local congregations. So who had the Good? - the congregation are the one thrown out? - obviously some that were thrown out. So divisions and disagreements can be good.

So when isn't debate and disagreement good? - when it turns to hate!

You see when your disagreement turns to attacks on the person or your take pleasure in opposing another then you war against flesh and blood and no longer against the spirit. You need to keep your disagreements focus on the spiritual principle of ideas and opinions and not against the person.

Eph_6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
LOOK at who had JESUS put on the cross The old so called church . & Preist & the one ones that was high up in the church . & don't think that it's not going to happen again . When church & State come together again .
 

Dino246

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LOOK at who had JESUS put on the cross The old so called church . & Preist & the one ones that was high up in the church . & don't think that it's not going to happen again . When church & State come together again .
It's simply incorrect to call the Jewish Sanhedrin the "church". God set up the priesthood and they governed by the Law of Moses; it was not "church and state" but rather theocracy through the mediation of the priesthood.

Jesus went to the cross already; nobody is going to succeed in putting Him back on it. :)
 
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It's simply incorrect to call the Jewish Sanhedrin the "church". God set up the priesthood and they governed by the Law of Moses; it was not "church and state" but rather theocracy through the mediation of the priesthood.

Jesus went to the cross already; nobody is going to succeed in putting Him back on it. :)
It's simply incorrect to call the Jewish Sanhedrin the "church". God set up the priesthood and they governed by the Law of Moses; it was not "church and state" but rather theocracy through the mediation of the priesthood.

Jesus went to the cross already; nobody is going to succeed in putting Him back on it. :)
The bible that the woman brought forth the man CHILD .The woman is a Church .. if you don't that a woman in prophecy is a Church .
JESUS is coming after HIS bride . in one & in another place HE is coming after the LAMBS wife . & other places too . Give it a little study & you could see it . GOD BLESS
 
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I agree that HE isn't going back on the cross , that is for sure . GOD BLESS (y)
 

Dino246

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The bible that the woman brought forth the man CHILD .The woman is a Church .. if you don't that a woman in prophecy is a Church .
JESUS is coming after HIS bride . in one & in another place HE is coming after the LAMBS wife . & other places too . Give it a little study & you could see it . GOD BLESS
None of that has anything to do with the Jewish priesthood, who were responsible for crucifying Jesus.
 
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Revelation 12 :17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman ,& went to make war with the remnant of her seed , which keep the commandments of GOD , &have the testimony of JESUS CHRIST . don't this woman sound like the Church . GOD BLESS .
 
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None of that has anything to do with the Jewish priesthood, who were responsible for crucifying Jesus.
I hope you & me & all rest of us ON this site will part of that woman ,[ The church ]
 
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If the Preist was not part of the old testament Church . What was they doing in GODs sanctuary , Don't make since to me . But GOD BLESS
& may GOD open our eyes to HIS truths
 

Dino246

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If the Preist was not part of the old testament Church . What was they doing in GODs sanctuary , Don't make since to me . But GOD BLESS
& may GOD open our eyes to HIS truths
"Church" is simply the wrong word. It's like calling a guitar, "piano" or an automobile, "roller skate".
 
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OK, here I go.
Dear God,
Me here. Why is it that in a very short period of time our community of the Net gathered Ekklesia, and in your name, have to witness at least two new members arriving and who misrepresent your words to us?
First we have someone, at least they're the first I noticed, who says you do not so love the whole world. Now we have this. There are more I'm sure.
Why? Is this Satan at work delivering something that in the end has a punchline you saw coming? But we're yet to figure out?
If so, please understand my concern, as I know you saw that coming, and tally ho! :D Sincerely, well, you know.

 

ForestGreenCook

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OK, here I go.
Dear God,
Me here. Why is it that in a very short period of time our community of the Net gathered Ekklesia, and in your name, have to witness at least two new members arriving and who misrepresent your words to us?
First we have someone, at least they're the first I noticed, who says you do not so love the whole world. Now we have this. There are more I'm sure.
Why? Is this Satan at work delivering something that in the end has a punchline you saw coming? But we're yet to figure out?
If so, please understand my concern, as I know you saw that coming, and tally ho! :D Sincerely, well, you know.
I am sure that you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, by the evidences that you show. I pray that someday he will reveal some answers to the questions that you have concerning the fact that God does not love all mankind. Heb 12:6, For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. It would seem obvious that if the Lord does not chasten a person, that the person would not be his son, and he would not chasten him. When I was young, I grew up in the country, and had some close neighbor boys that I would sometimes join them in doing some things that displeased our fathers. My father would give me a thrashing for my disobedience, but he would not discipline the neighbor boy, because he was not his son. God holds the same principal with his children. Psalms 73:5, They are not in trouble as other men, neither are they plagued (beat, strike, smit, touch) like other men. Romans 9:11, Concerning Jacob and Esau, "For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election (his children) might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth".
 

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I am sure that you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, by the evidences that you show. I pray that someday he will reveal some answers to the questions that you have concerning the fact that God does not love all mankind. Heb 12:6, For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. It would seem obvious that if the Lord does not chasten a person, that the person would not be his son, and he would not chasten him. When I was young, I grew up in the country, and had some close neighbor boys that I would sometimes join them in doing some things that displeased our fathers. My father would give me a thrashing for my disobedience, but he would not discipline the neighbor boy, because he was not his son. God holds the same principal with his children. Psalms 73:5, They are not in trouble as other men, neither are they plagued (beat, strike, smit, touch) like other men. Romans 9:11, Concerning Jacob and Esau, "For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election (his children) might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth".
We would have a very serious problem if God were Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent and not Omni-Benevolent.
 
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I am sure that you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, by the evidences that you show. I pray that someday he will reveal some answers to the questions that you have concerning the fact that God does not love all mankind. Heb 12:6, For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. It would seem obvious that if the Lord does not chasten a person, that the person would not be his son, and he would not chasten him. When I was young, I grew up in the country, and had some close neighbor boys that I would sometimes join them in doing some things that displeased our fathers. My father would give me a thrashing for my disobedience, but he would not discipline the neighbor boy, because he was not his son. God holds the same principal with his children. Psalms 73:5, They are not in trouble as other men, neither are they plagued (beat, strike, smit, touch) like other men. Romans 9:11, Concerning Jacob and Esau, "For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election (his children) might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth".
@ Peter 3: 9 The LORD is not slack concerning HIS promise , as some men count slackness ; but is long suffering to us-ward ,not willing that any should perish , but that all should come to repentance .This MEAN he wants to save ALL that are LOST NO matter what they have done ,No sin is to BAD for the LORD to forgive ,And those that are save HE wants them to endure until HE comes again SO HE won't Haft to blot their names out of the book of life , HE don't them to end up like the DOG & the SOW ,In 2 peter 2:12 - 22 GOD BLESS you all as HE sees fit , FOR HE knows what we need .
 

Nehemiah6

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LOOK at who had JESUS put on the cross The old so called church.
It was definitely not "the so-called church". It was the Jewish religious leaders of the day who instigated the Jewish mob (no doubt with the help of Satan and his demons) to clamor for the crucifixion of Christ. Pontius Pilate would have released Jesus, but he was afraid of the Jewish rabble (and did not have enough Roman soldiers to deal with them).
& Preist & the one ones that was high up in the church
That was the Jewish Sanhedrin or Supreme Council. They rejected Jesus as their true Messiah and King.
& don't think that it's not going to happen again . When church & State come together again .
Are you speaking about the Antichrist and how he will dominate the world?

Getting back to disagreements within Christendom. that is to be expected. What is even more critical is whether we disagree because of Bible truth and Gospel truth being perverted.
 
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It was definitely not "the so-called church". It was the Jewish religious leaders of the day who instigated the Jewish mob (no doubt with the help of Satan and his demons) to clamor for the crucifixion of Christ. Pontius Pilate would have released Jesus, but he was afraid of the Jewish rabble (and did not have enough Roman soldiers to deal with them).

That was the Jewish Sanhedrin or Supreme Council. They rejected Jesus as their true Messiah and King.

Are you speaking about the Antichrist and how he will dominate the world?

Getting back to disagreements within Christendom. that is to be expected. What is even more critical is whether we disagree because of Bible truth and Gospel truth being perverted.
The antichrist has been here for a long time . Do you know who Killed off most of the Christian in the dark day . & a lot of the reformers tell us who he is ,John Huss & William Tindal & John
It was definitely not "the so-called church". It was the Jewish religious leaders of the day who instigated the Jewish mob (no doubt with the help of Satan and his demons) to clamor for the crucifixion of Christ. Pontius Pilate would have released Jesus, but he was afraid of the Jewish rabble (and did not have enough Roman soldiers to deal with them).

That was the Jewish Sanhedrin or Supreme Council. They rejected Jesus as their true Messiah and King.

Are you speaking about the Antichrist and how he will dominate the world?
The antichrist has been known for a long time now . A lot of the Reformer told us who he is, John Huss & William Tindel Who translated Most of our King James BIBLE , & John Wesley & John Knox & John Calvin & Martan Luther . Is just a few Of & a lot of the Reformer Helped us to have the BIBLE Back, that the Catholic Church wouldn't let us have , They would KILL you for having A english BIBLE. If you Know Who KILL most of the Christian & reformer ,You should know your self who he is . I PRAISE GOD THAT HE HAS SHOWED ME WHO HE IS , For about 10 years . it is part of the 3 Angels massages in Revelation 14 : 6 - 12 . GOD BLESS Getting back to disagreements within Christendom. that is to be expected. What is even more critical is whether we disagree becauseof Bible truth and Gospel truth being perverted.
 
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The antichrist has been here for a long time . Do you know who kill off most of the Christians & the Reformers in the dark day . & a lot of the reformers Give their lives to get us the word of GOD back , & they tell us who he is John Huss & John Wesley & john Knox & John Calvin & Martan Luther & William Tindal Who translated most of our King James BIBLE ,About 86 % of it & the Catholic Church had lock up & kept it from the people , Because it shows us their false doctrine & who the antichrist is . By History we can know too.
 

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The antichrist has been here for a long time . Do you know who Killed off most of the Christian in the dark day . & a lot of the reformers tell us who he is ,John Huss & William Tindal & John
The Antichrist is given just 3 1/2 years to exercise power. See Revelation 13.

1260 days = 42 months = 3 1/2 years = time (1 yr) + times (2 years) + half a time (6 months).

So obviously you are seriously mistaken (along with the Reformers and the SDAs )
 

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Did you know that Jesus came to divide?

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Disagreements are actually GOOD also.

1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Co 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

You see the GOOD and APPROVED were even being kicked out from the local congregations. So who had the Good? - the congregation are the one thrown out? - obviously some that were thrown out. So divisions and disagreements can be good.

So when isn't debate and disagreement good? - when it turns to hate!

You see when your disagreement turns to attacks on the person or your take pleasure in opposing another then you war against flesh and blood and no longer against the spirit. You need to keep your disagreements focus on the spiritual principle of ideas and opinions and not against the person.

Eph_6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
You can disagree with me and hate me all you want. I couldn’t care less.