"All Have sinned," really?

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Dino246 said:
I didn't say "lord it over"; don't change my words and then write paragraphs in response to what I didn't say.

You keep trying to inject some grand overarching symbolic meaning to every verse; it ain't there, and you're just speculating.
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Not ever verse. Just the ones that without parables the hidden spiritual understanding .Without them Christ spoke not. In order to teach us how to walk by faith the unseen eternal. What day do you think he corrupted the first creation causing death to all living organisms ?
 
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No; God created the two great lights (sun and moon) on the fourth day. The text says nothing about "two witnesses under the sun." You continually try to relate completely unrelated sections of Scripture, and you end up with gobbledegook.
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The two witness as the Sun (1) and the moon(2) the lesser light where clearly established to represent the coming glory of God and the lamb. The glory of God will be the light as it was for the first three days .Darkness, night used to represent evil will not raise it ugly head ever again

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God (1) did lighten it, and the Lamb (2) is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.23-25
 
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garee said:
Not ever verse. Just the ones that without parables the hidden spiritual understanding .
Without them Christ spoke not.
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Wrong... you keep using that verse out of its context and misapplying it.

garee said:
In order to teach us how to walk by faith the unseen eternal. What day do you think he corrupted the first creation causing death to all living organisms ?
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It was corrupted the day Adam and Eve ate the fruit, as I told you already.
 
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garee said:
The two witness as the Sun (1) and the moon(2) the lesser light where clearly established to represent the coming glory of God and the lamb.
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The Scripture says nothing about the sun and moon being "witnesses". As for your interpretation, it is not supported by the text... at all.
 
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Dino246 said:
The Scripture says nothing about the sun and moon being "witnesses". As for your interpretation, it is not supported by the text... at all.
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Two witnesses to light up to the corrupted creation revealing its nakedness without the gory of God . In the new heavens and earth there will be no night.

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
 
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garee said:
Two witnesses to light up to the corrupted creation revealing its nakedness without the gory of God . In the new heavens and earth there will be no night.

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
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The sun and moon aren't called "witnesses" in Scripture, and I'm aware of what Revelation says.
 
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Robo36 said:
It’s written in the Bible that “all have sinned,” then we watch the St. Jude adds on TV and wonder what sins these unfortunate handicapped and cancer patient children have committed. Do you wonder as I do about that? Some are but babes yet. Can someone explain please?
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Adam's sin is imputed to all mankind.

Therefore, those children need a savior too.

Many evangelicals deny that Adam's sin is imputed to all mankind, but it is true. Romans 5 discusses it.

These children will be able to proclaim Jesus as their savior, too. They won't be left out of singing praises for their savior.
 
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