Trinity of God and trinity of Existence
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Also I do not claim to be a common Christian. The common Christian needs to become uncommon. The common Christian is the majority we see in church. The common was what Martin Luther spoke against. The common is part of what is largely wrong with our cultures and the failures of the capital C Churches. The common is what keeps us divided.
To Rough Soul 19,
I understand you. You are trying to find meeting points with people who are not in our little circle.
The Church exploded starting on the day of Pentecost because the Holy Spirit empowered the disciples to speak to people of other nations, other cultures, other traditions, and even other languages and make connections. I do not see you compromising the faith.
There are some people who want to climb into a tiny little box and fight anyone who appears to threaten their walls. They think they are being holy but their addiction to accusation comes from The Accuser. In Hebrew Satan means The Accuser. By their behavior they show who their father is. There are too many parasites who live on web sites finding fault with anyone they can. Don't let them diminish you.
Dave C
I understand you. You are trying to find meeting points with people who are not in our little circle.
The Church exploded starting on the day of Pentecost because the Holy Spirit empowered the disciples to speak to people of other nations, other cultures, other traditions, and even other languages and make connections. I do not see you compromising the faith.
There are some people who want to climb into a tiny little box and fight anyone who appears to threaten their walls. They think they are being holy but their addiction to accusation comes from The Accuser. In Hebrew Satan means The Accuser. By their behavior they show who their father is. There are too many parasites who live on web sites finding fault with anyone they can. Don't let them diminish you.
Dave C
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It is unfortunate because it would be nice if we had the convenience to just debate and iron out all the doctrines but today in our cultures we are facing a greater evil that threatens all associated to Christianity.
We cannot fight evil if we are divided and conquered by evil within the church. If the churches have become corrupt then we must separate. Religious freedom and right to conscience is a God given right. We must defend that and stop being the common no action, quiet, majoring in the minors Christian.
We have to do all we can to reach the culture and this done by bridging gaps to help them understand. Much like teaching children on how we use examples, illustrations, or objects to help them understand deeper knowledge.
We cannot fight evil if we are divided and conquered by evil within the church. If the churches have become corrupt then we must separate. Religious freedom and right to conscience is a God given right. We must defend that and stop being the common no action, quiet, majoring in the minors Christian.
We have to do all we can to reach the culture and this done by bridging gaps to help them understand. Much like teaching children on how we use examples, illustrations, or objects to help them understand deeper knowledge.
Their is the commandments of God and the doctrine of Men
Commandment of God
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
The God of Jesus and his disciples is one. point blank period.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
2Co 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
Doctrine of Men
God is not one but One in three or Three in one ____________________"fill in the blanks with various interpretations" substances, persons, etc
Commandment of God
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
The God of Jesus and his disciples is one. point blank period.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
2Co 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
Doctrine of Men
God is not one but One in three or Three in one ____________________"fill in the blanks with various interpretations" substances, persons, etc
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one what?
you have to give full context.
Not one in the same because the Father is greater according to verse 29
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
when you go to verse 37 you see that The Son does the works of the Father.
1. So The Father is Greater than all
2. The Son and The Father are one
3. If The Son does not the works of The Father believe him not.
Therefore The Father and Son are one in agreement.
The Jews interpreted that he said he was God but this was not the case and he also made it clear that he was the Son of God.
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
you have to give full context.
Not one in the same because the Father is greater according to verse 29
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
when you go to verse 37 you see that The Son does the works of the Father.
1. So The Father is Greater than all
2. The Son and The Father are one
3. If The Son does not the works of The Father believe him not.
Therefore The Father and Son are one in agreement.
The Jews interpreted that he said he was God but this was not the case and he also made it clear that he was the Son of God.
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Jesus said, "the Father lives in me, and I live in the Father". They are inseparable. They exist in the most beautiful intimacy and unity. Jesus said, "The works that you see me do, I do not do them, but the Father that lives in me doeth the works."
"The Father alone is God". Jesus is the only begotten Son of the One True God who came to earth that we might know the Father.
"The Father alone is God". Jesus is the only begotten Son of the One True God who came to earth that we might know the Father.
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