Not By Works

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no one says it is not.

Peter and Judas both betrayed Christ, in different ways.

Peter came back to Christ, Judas did not . and, more importantly, Jesus new what would happen.

how? well, Jesus ( and God the Father and the Holy Sprit) knows the heart.

so, Jesus knows who truly believes in Him, and who doesn't .

which is something you pushers of a losable salvation fail to realize.
Just to note....JUDAS was never saved........

A devil from the beginning
THE son of PERDITION
NOT clean
a Thief holding the bag
No true repentance
etc.....
 
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It is a sure thing..........if you keep believing. You can't ignore all that the Bible says about this.

Such a simple gospel, but made so complicated by the fear that 'believing' is somehow man trying to earn his own salvation.
Wrong again Ralph....was wrong the first time you peddled it as Ralph.....and is wrong again this time.

What part of FINISH and COMPLETE don't you understand <---JESUS does it pal...NOT US!
 
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But warm weather is nice too!

I could not live where summers are really short.

We have to get used to bugs, soon we will need to eat them.. I have been told cricket flour is pretty tasty. ;)
HAHAHHAHA I will pass on cricket flour because I see evil coming and am prepped HAHAHAHHA
 

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I just realised after reading your post he was lying about me and or misrepresenting me...par for the course with deceivers....

FALSE--->
iymus said:
Ironic that you got someone with a military photo up and preaching lack of accountability and faithless works when it comes to the Gospel of Christ.
gotta be careful with lying. rev 21:8

be careful now iymus dont lose ur salvation
 
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Thank you.
Thank you for praying for me as well.
I did want to ask for prayer for me as well.
But thought it might be selfish.
Cause truly I'm struggling with it.
MAN.....we love you bro....do not ever think that crap.....we have no problem prying for you, your wife, your family.....and as a matter of fact pray for me as i am in AU still and things are not looking good for the U.S.....we are about to engage Iran in a war and it is a coalition of Iran, Turkey and Russia the destroys the Hindermost of the nations, the LADY of the Kingdoms, the Prodigy of Babylon
 
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Ironic that you got someone with a military photo up and preaching lack of accountability and faithless works when it comes to the Gospel of Christ.

Discipline, Accountability, and Works are a foundation of life. None of the naysayers have corrected. Some have tried to use my Spiritual status of unsure on my profile. Others have rebuked my improper spelling of a word when they knew what I was truing to convey but none of them have used scriptures without bias to disprove my point.

Unless they can prove that their is not a sin unto death or that their is possibility of names being removed from book of life, then they cannot prove that Salvation is absolute without maintenance or growth thru Faith thru works which encompasses overcoming the world and enduring until The end.

Not much else I can say that I have not already said with verses.

Pauline Pharisees need to stop using their interpretations of the doctrine of Paul to dismiss the will and works of the Father expected of us when it comes to our perpetual salvation
More ironic that you would openly lie about me and accuse me falsely......
 

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Galations 6
6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all [men], especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
 
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there are a hundred reasons to take very seriously the warning passages without going to “ it’s up to me to keep myself”.
Of course it's not up to you to keep yourself saved.
It's up to you, through the power of God's grace and encouragement, to keep believing in the one who is able to keep you.

"21keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life." - Jude 1:21

"24To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy" - Jude 1:24
 
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The Bible ---.JESUS begins, finishes and completes the work of faith in us

Ralph, A.K.A. Judges ---> We keep ourselves in the faith and in so doing finish and complete what JESUS started

ONE of the above is true...the other a lie from the pit and the enemy himself.......
 

Chris1975

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The Bible ---.JESUS begins, finishes and completes the work of faith in us

Ralph, A.K.A. Judges ---> We keep ourselves in the faith and in so doing finish and complete what JESUS started

ONE of the above is true...the other a lie from the pit and the enemy himself.......
Jude v20
20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
 
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I love you dcon, but you hurt some very good, kind, and yes, sensitive people. Some of them new members that never came back. That is sad.
Reminds me of these:

"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect" - 1 Peter 3:15

"rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind." - 1 Peter 2:1

"29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." - Ephesians 4:29-32
 
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Reminds me of these:

"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect" - 1 Peter 3:15

"rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind." - 1 Peter 2:1

"29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." - Ephesians 4:29-32
Speaking of slander....you should know that one by heart......you do it regularly in this thread....and maybe try context as well....but hey...we all already know you that you pay no heed to the truth, context and or even the rules of this site Ralph!!
 

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i pay for 100mbps internet and i always had good connection right i even said it today to my family i said like hey i got such a great connection i love it i will continue using them. well i made mistake of talking highly of them. now im getting 1mbps all of a sudden only lolz. thats what i get for giving compliment to my isp. ok i change my view this is the worst isp ever. maybe now my speed will go up hhehe. if it does its a miracle.

My ALLO INTERNET CONNECTION is a little slow tonight. I just ran a speed test and got:

DOWNLOAD Mbps
174.89
UPLOAD Mbps
200.67

I am supposed to get 300 Mbps both ways.

And it cost me only $2.OO LESS than I used to pay for SPECTRUM.
 

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To my knowledge those that preaches a faith without works doctrine even unto maturity is preaching a Gospel of unaccountability and stagnation, and dead faith.

As someone who was in the service myself seeing someone with a service uniform preaching a doctrine of unacoutability seems to be hypocritical.

If the individual has not been preaching a Gospel that does not include works then i can apologize for slandering him. However if that is not the case my comment still stands.
 
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My ALLO INTERNET CONNECTION is a little slow tonight. I just ran a speed test and got:

DOWNLOAD Mbps
174.89
UPLOAD Mbps
200.67

I am supposed to get 300 Mbps both ways.

And it cost me only $2.OO LESS than I used to pay for SPECTRUM.
I use Satellite internet....I can be in CC, also watching videos, with my kid watching videos on his pc and also using my phone wifi for other things like Skype, Viber etc. all at the same time and get a phone call on the phone line that comes with Sat internet....unlimited GIGS......and with the router that comes with it can get wifi in my whole house and up to about 40 yards all the way around my house outside.......
 
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To my knowledge those that preaches a faith without works doctrine even unto maturity is preaching a Gospel of unaccountability and stagnation, and dead faith.

As someone who was in the service myself seeing someone with a service uniform preaching a doctrine of unacoutability seems to be hypocritical.

If the individual has not been preaching a Gospel that does not include works then i can apologize for slandering him. However if that is not the case my comment still stands.
You are false man.....go read the thread and then come apologise openly.......and I was not in some generic SERVICE pal....I was a UNITED STATES MARINE.....get your facts straight...you are looking bad especially openly and falsely mouthing a member that has been here for 6 years....!!
 

oyster67

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Jude v20
20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Praise the Lord! How awesome and wonderful to know that we can keep on growing nearer to our beloved Lord and Saviour! Sweeter gets the journey every day!:)
 

oyster67

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You are false man.....go read the thread and then come apologise openly.......and I was not in some generic SERVICE pal....I was a UNITED STATES MARINE.....get your facts straight...you are looking bad especially openly and falsely mouthing a member that has been here for 6 years....!!
Mathew
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.