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Butterflyyy

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Dino, there is no assumptions or accusations made toward you, not to mention, I also stated that I will not say that you are indulging in a false doctrine, but with your remark I will say that you appear to have a narcissistic disorder behavior and as stated before, you must me young. GROW UP!
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Dino246

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Dino, there is no assumptions or accusations made toward you, not to mention, I also stated that I will not say that you are indulging in a false doctrine, but with your remark I will say that you appear to have a narcissistic disorder behavior and as stated before, you must me young. GROW UP!
Uh huh.

You still haven't looked up "ad hominem". Go and do so.
 

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Dino, there is no assumptions or accusations made toward you, not to mention, I also stated that I will not say that you are indulging in a false doctrine, but with your remark I will say that you appear to have a narcissistic disorder behavior and as stated before, you must me young. GROW UP!
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Don't be surprise, the way he writes is telling me about him.
 

SUNDOWNSAM

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Uh huh.

You still haven't looked up "ad hominem". Go and do so.
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I did not know that message was for me, but I will elaborate on it towards you...

It was probably a word you just learned and now you know why I say you have a narcissistic disorder behavior which was others called it out on you. The proof is in the fact that people like you when they cannot weigh an argument fairly and do not want to because they are set in their ways they immediately attack, again, a sign of a person with a narcissistic disorder behavior. By the way, I am not name-calling, is that the way you respond is telling me everything about you, and I am pointing it out to you.

Stick to your NIV, and again, GROW UP!
 

Grandpa

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The New Covenant was with the house of Israel and the house of Jacob and God through the mouth of Jeremiah spoke this and in the AD books it is confirmed. Unless you believe in replacement theology.
How can you read the New Testament and NOT believe that the Lord Jesus is for everyone and not just for the Jews?

How can you read the New Testament and think that the Blessing of Christ is only for the Jews at some future time not spelled out?

Which is explicitly against what is written. And then call it replacement theology...:ROFL:


Unless you just wish for the Old Covenant to not be a broken covenant and you will come up with all kinds of silly defenses for it.
 

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Uh huh.

You still haven't looked up "ad hominem". Go and do so.
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I did not know that message was for me, but I will elaborate on it towards you...

Now you know why I say you have a narcissistic disorder behavior and others probably called it out on you. The proof is in the fact that people like you when they cannot weigh an argument fairly or do not want to because they are set in their ways they immediately attack, again, a sign of a person with a narcissistic disorder behavior. By the way, I am not name-calling, the way you respond is telling me everything about you, and I am pointing it out to you.
 

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How can you read the New Testament and NOT believe that the Lord Jesus is for everyone and not just for the Jews?

How can you read the New Testament and think that the Blessing of Christ is only for the Jews at some future time not spelled out?

Which is explicitly against what is written. And then call it replacement theology...:ROFL:


Unless you just wish for the Old Covenant to not be a broken covenant and you will come up with all kinds of silly defenses for it.
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Grandpa, I never said that Yeshua is for the Jew only, I am saying that the New Covenant was for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. I will add what you probably want to hear... when a Gentile who was once aliens from the commonwealth of Israel comes to Yeshua he becomes part of the commonwealth of Israel. Read Hebrews 8 slowly and carefully pretending it is a new passage of Scriptures you are reading, then go to Jeremiah 31:31 - 34





Please read carefully so that you do not come to a conclusion based on your assumption.
 

Grandpa

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Grandpa, I never said that Yeshua is for the Jew only, I am saying that the New Covenant was for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. I will add what you probably want to hear... when a Gentile who was once aliens from the commonwealth of Israel comes to Yeshua he becomes part of the commonwealth of Israel. Read Hebrews 8 slowly and carefully pretending it is a new passage of Scriptures you are reading, then go to Jeremiah 31:31 - 34





Please read carefully so that you do not come to a conclusion based on your assumption.
Its impossible to go back to a carnal view of scripture once you have been to Christ.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.


Just as its impossible to have a spiritual view of scripture until you have come to Christ.


Romans 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.


We don't become Christians for the opportunity to become Jewish.

We become Christians for the opportunity to be children of God.
 

Butterflyyy

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I did not know that message was for me, but I will elaborate on it towards you...

It was probably a word you just learned and now you know why I say you have a narcissistic disorder behavior which was others called it out on you. The proof is in the fact that people like you when they cannot weigh an argument fairly and do not want to because they are set in their ways they immediately attack, again, a sign of a person with a narcissistic disorder behavior. By the way, I am not name-calling, is that the way you respond is telling me everything about you, and I am pointing it out to you.

Stick to your NIV, and again, GROW UP!
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Butterflyyy

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I did not know that message was for me, but I will elaborate on it towards you...

It was probably a word you just learned and now you know why I say you have a narcissistic disorder behavior which was others called it out on you. The proof is in the fact that people like you when they cannot weigh an argument fairly and do not want to because they are set in their ways they immediately attack, again, a sign of a person with a narcissistic disorder behavior. By the way, I am not name-calling, is that the way you respond is telling me everything about you, and I am pointing it out to you.

Stick to your NIV, and again, GROW UP!
Stick to your NIV Dino😉...😂
 

Butterflyyy

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Grandpa, I never said that Yeshua is for the Jew only, I am saying that the New Covenant was for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. I will add what you probably want to hear... when a Gentile who was once aliens from the commonwealth of Israel comes to Yeshua he becomes part of the commonwealth of Israel. Read Hebrews 8 slowly and carefully pretending it is a new passage of Scriptures you are reading, then go to Jeremiah 31:31 - 34





Please read carefully so that you do not come to a conclusion based on your assumption.
And Grandpa...make sure you read slowly and carefully👌
 

Dino246

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I did not know that message was for me, but I will elaborate on it towards you...

It was probably a word you just learned and now you know why I say you have a narcissistic disorder behavior which was others called it out on you. The proof is in the fact that people like you when they cannot weigh an argument fairly and do not want to because they are set in their ways they immediately attack, again, a sign of a person with a narcissistic disorder behavior. By the way, I am not name-calling, is that the way you respond is telling me everything about you, and I am pointing it out to you.

Stick to your NIV, and again, GROW UP!
Do you feel better now? Have you excised your frustration? Have you vented your impotent fury?
 

Butterflyyy

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If you are talking about the NIV, then if someone quotes you a true statement from a JW's bible does that mean one should highly recommend the JW's distorted bible?

A good English translation would be the American Standard or the Holman Christian Standard bible, then that is my opinion.
Hey SDS
I am not a KJV only person, but nevertheless, I thought you may find this article about the Holman Bible of interest....
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/hcsb.htm
 

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Hey SDS
I am not a KJV only person, but nevertheless, I thought you may find this article about the Holman Bible of interest....
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/hcsb.htm
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Hey SDS
I am not a KJV only person, but nevertheless, I thought you may find this article about the Holman Bible of interest....
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/hcsb.htm

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Butterfly, you appear to be looking for attention and you will not get it from me which is why I do not respond to any of your post, accept for the thanks I gave you.
 

Butterflyyy

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Butterfly, you appear to be looking for attention and you will not get it from me which is why I do not respond to any of your post, accept for the thanks I gave you.
The link I sent you illustrates a valid point SDS. I did not send it in order to seek attention. How can you judge another's heart like that? Are you God? You are judging people's hearts on here and it is wrong. You do not know what is in someone's heart.

What do you think of the article I sent you please?
 

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The link I sent you illustrates a valid point SDS. I did not send it in order to seek attention. How can you judge another's heart like that? Are you God? You are judging people's hearts on here and it is wrong. You do not know what is in someone's heart.

What do you think of the article I sent you please?
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I will just reply one more time...

Warning to everyone, be careful with https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/hcsb.htm which is the site that will find errors even with true statements.

Nothing to do with judging the heart. The way people write and side with others without weighing a view fairly says it all. By the way, all you do is come to dino's defense and everyone sees it.

With this being said, don't email me, you will waste your time.
 
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What is more important is that Yeshua is the fulfillment of the Ark of the Covenant.
Right so what did He say, when he established his communion?
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What is more important is that Yeshua is the fulfillment of the Ark of the Covenant.
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.
Luke 22:20 NASB

In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
1 Corinthians 11:25 NASB

Which fulfills

“Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord , “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord .
Jeremiah 31:31‭-‬32 NASB

Reiterated in Hebrew 8:8

And Reflected through out the new testament

who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2 Corinthians 3:6 NASB

For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.
Hebrews 9:15‭-‬16 NASB

and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.
Hebrews 12:24 NASB


The new covenant in Christ confirmed throughout scripture.
 

Butterflyyy

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I will just reply one more time...

Warning to everyone, be careful with https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/hcsb.htm which is the site that will find errors even with true statements.

Nothing to do with judging the heart. The way people write and side with others without weighing a view fairly says it all. By the way, all you do is come to dino's defense and everyone sees it.

With this being said, don't email me, you will waste your time.
Did you consider that there could be a valid reason for me doing this?
 

Butterflyyy

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I will just reply one more time...

Warning to everyone, be careful with https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/hcsb.htm which is the site that will find errors even with true statements.

Nothing to do with judging the heart. The way people write and side with others without weighing a view fairly says it all. By the way, all you do is come to dino's defense and everyone sees it.

With this being said, don't email me, you will waste your time.
I don't agree with the site I sent you the link to, which is why I pointed out that I am not a KJV only Believer. I was merely trying to illustrate that there are those who think as little of the Holman Bible as they do of the NIV. I deemed it petty of you to go on about the NIV like you did when this discussion is not about that. I also cannot respect the way you have communicated in this discussion, in fact it is ridiculous.
You seem to presume folks on here think a whole load of stuff that they actually don't think; which is rather obnoxious. There are genuine, knowledgeable Christians on here and I just think they ought to be shown more respect. You are also coming across as rude mannered.
 

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I don't agree with the site I sent you the link to, which is why I pointed out that I am not a KJV only Believer. I was merely trying to illustrate that there are those who think as little of the Holman Bible as they do of the NIV. I deemed it petty of you to go on about the NIV like you did when this discussion is not about that. I also cannot respect the way you have communicated in this discussion, in fact it is ridiculous.
You seem to presume folks on here think a whole load of stuff that they actually don't think; which is rather obnoxious. There are genuine, knowledgeable Christians on here and I just think they ought to be shown more respect. You are also coming across as rude mannered.
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I use the KJV, but when I go back to the original to define. As for the site you gave me, they find everything from with everything. Put on a blue dress, tell them it is blue, and they will find an error with the color you told them. They appear to be wolves in sheep clothes.

In the discussion the NIV had to be thrown because he used that distorted interpretation (not translation) to prove his point, but in the original language it does not say it the way the NIV states it and I call it like it is. No theologian or person who really want to understand true scriptures would ever use the NIV, the NIV is like a disney world version and you probably understand what I am trying to convey. Did you ever play the game that you get ten people and one is told something in their ear, and they whisper it in the other person's ear and when it gets to the last person it is a different message? That is the NIV!

I do not look for the respect of others, I respond accordingly and respectfully and when one does not like the response they immediately attack. Here I am responding to someone and you get involved in defending them when you are not in the discussion and that is rude, but if you personally know him then I can understand why you defend him.

You are incorrect in your last paragraph and I do not care if you think I am rude, but the fact is that when someone does not want to hear it they would immediately make accusations like you just did. I never tell a person that they do not know what they are talking about, I respond accordingly and respectfully. If I disagree with them I will tell them why, but I am not here to change someone's view or look for the respect of others.

I was dealing with one individual, the person fabricated two lies, convincing himself that I said what he fabricated. Everyone noticed it, one guy said give him the benefit of the doubt that he will apologize and my response was, I need not an apology he needs to correct that with God, but he will never apologize, and I was correct, his narcissistic disorder behavior blinded him. I told him that I will always refer to him as a LIAR, others had the same problem with him. Dino wants attention and he is getting it from you.