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Discern said:
That is the way I understood the limited number of posts that I read. Where did I defend maintaining salvation? Where is it in that post?

It’s not there. You are Wrong, sir!
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ALMOST ever post he makes.....go read the crap he said to @Rosemaryx and you defend him as a brother....wow man....

Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”
 
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This entire thread had built in obsolescence. Totally too long. Nobody is going to scroll through the reams and reams of pages of argumentation. It has become totally stale. If you haven't settled on the topic by now, no amount of further argumentation will have any value. It is not edifying at all. The salt has lost its flavour. Its now just sad. I was on this two years ago and still we go around the merry-go-round.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”


Call one that states we can lose salvation, that we can lose being justified and that Christ will quit mediating for us......says a LOT about one's true stance!
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By your standard. John Wesley is in hell. I would say that says a lot about YOUR stance

I do not believe nosas. But I do not condemn people who disagree with me, especially when his position may change in five years

I used to believe as he did, and God corrected me are you going to say I was not saved until I understood security

You do not base salvation on grace. You base it on holding the right doctrine. Just like Jaydens

Sorry dude. You need to get a little grace.
 
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Chris1975 said:
This entire thread had built in obsolescence. Totally too long. Nobody is going to scroll through the reams and reams of pages of argumentation. It has become totally stale. If you haven't settled on the topic by now, no amount of further argumentation will have any value. It is not edifying at all. The salt has lost its flavour. Its now just sad. I was on this two years ago and still we go around the merry-go-round.
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And y'all know this is the truth.
 
dcontroversal said:
AMEN....like a lefty, he was triggered and gave me a bunch of red x's.......this from a GUY that denies the God of the O.T. worshipped by the Hebrews and then one that constantly opposes truth while peddling a dime store Catholic salvation
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He is red x king

it’s to the point it is laughable
 
Chris1975 said:
And y'all know this is the truth.
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The topic will never be settled and is one of the most important topics in all of this world

if you get this topic wrong it has eternal consequences
that’s why it will never die
 
Chris1975 said:
This entire thread had built in obsolescence. Totally too long. Nobody is going to scroll through the reams and reams of pages of argumentation. It has become totally stale. If you haven't settled on the topic by now, no amount of further argumentation will have any value. It is not edifying at all. The salt has lost its flavour. Its now just sad. I was on this two years ago and still we go around the merry-go-round.
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It is worse than sad, unfortunately. :(
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
The topic will never be settled and is one of the most important topics in all of this world

if you get this topic wrong it has eternal consequences
that’s why it will never die
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Jesus didn't hang around and argue His points to death. He left them with the truth and moved to the next city.
 
Discern said:
By your standard. John Wesley is in hell. I would say that says a lot about YOUR stance

I do not believe nosas. But I do not condemn people who disagree with me, especially when his position may change in five years

I used to believe as he did, and God corrected me are you going to say I was not saved until I understood security

You do not base salvation on grace. You base it on holding the right doctrine. Just like Jaydens

Sorry dude. You need to get a little grace.
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None of this is factual.....more embellishments on your part pal....My standard....NOT quite and could care less what John Wesley believed and or peddled....I dogma dogma PAL and false gospels which HAVE no power to save genius....the power is in the MESSAGE not the messenger....but maybe you do not comprehend that truth and if you think I am anywhere near the fool that was banned you have no clue......here TRY this scripture and wrap your head around the truth...

By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

And on top of that...it is evident that have not read anything I have written.....NOTHING I have said can even be compared to that idiot Jayden....
 
Discern said:
By your standard. John Wesley is in hell. I would say that says a lot about YOUR stance

I do not believe nosas. But I do not condemn people who disagree with me, especially when his position may change in five years

I used to believe as he did, and God corrected me are you going to say I was not saved until I understood security

You do not base salvation on grace. You base it on holding the right doctrine. Just like Jaydens

Sorry dude. You need to get a little grace.
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dcontroversal said:
My bible tells me to defend the truth form those that would devalue it....your stance is clear....like Moses said....with ME or Korah....you obviously choose Korah!
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that’s why he calls himself Dcontroversal. Who would give himself a name like that?
 
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dcontroversal said:
None of this is factual.....more embellishments on your part pal....My standard....NOT quite and could care less what John Wesley believed and or peddled....I dogma dogma PAL and false gospels which HAVE no power to save genius....the power is in the MESSAGE not the messenger....but maybe you do not comprehend that truth and if you think I am anywhere near the fool that was banned you have no clue......here TRY this scripture and wrap your head around the truth...

By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

And on top of that...it is evident that have not read anything I have written.....NOTHING I have said can even be compared to that idiot Jayden....
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John Wesley was not osas. Do you hold that he is in hell? Yes or no?
 
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