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Here are some THOUGHTS about the REALITY OSAS.
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“…and they shall never perish….” (John 10:28)
Can you unfry an egg? Then, after being saved–genuinely forgiven and accepted and transformed by the Holy Spirit of God into something far different from what you were, more than any hen’s egg ever dreamed possible–you cannot undo it.
Once saved, always saved.
To say otherwise, and to preach it, might be something akin to insulting the Holy Spirit.
It might be. Certainly, it’s worth giving this some serious thought.
Ephesians 1:13 – Believers were “sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.” If that’s not eternal security, it’s nothing. He has literally made believers “tamper-proof.” How good is that!
https://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/joe-mckeever/7-questions-about-once-saved-always-saved.html END QUOTE:
Hebrews 9:11-12 (NASB)
11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
12 and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 9:15 (NASB)
15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:26 (NASB)
26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
Hebrews 10:10 (NASB)
10 By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Hebrews 10:19-23 (NASB)
19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus,
20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,
21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God,
22 let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful;
Hebrews 10:29 (NASB)
29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?
QOUTE:
“…and they shall never perish….” (John 10:28)
Can you unfry an egg? Then, after being saved–genuinely forgiven and accepted and transformed by the Holy Spirit of God into something far different from what you were, more than any hen’s egg ever dreamed possible–you cannot undo it.
Once saved, always saved.
To say otherwise, and to preach it, might be something akin to insulting the Holy Spirit.
It might be. Certainly, it’s worth giving this some serious thought.
Ephesians 1:13 – Believers were “sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.” If that’s not eternal security, it’s nothing. He has literally made believers “tamper-proof.” How good is that!
https://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/joe-mckeever/7-questions-about-once-saved-always-saved.html END QUOTE:
Hebrews 9:11-12 (NASB)
11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
12 and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 9:15 (NASB)
15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:26 (NASB)
26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
Hebrews 10:10 (NASB)
10 By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Hebrews 10:19-23 (NASB)
19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus,
20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,
21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God,
22 let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful;
Hebrews 10:29 (NASB)
29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?
It may not be deliberate. There is a lot of pendulum effect and backlash that causes people of different persuasions to misunderstand each other. Often, the differences are made into mountains and the common ground is treated like molehills. Most, including myself, can be prone to this, if we are not cautious
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Exactly, and this person has been shown the error in his thinking multiple times... and if is "returnee" which is entirely possible given the very similar expressive language and doctrine he has been shown more than several times.....
How are we to regard someone who refutes sound doctrine on a very essential doctrine?
How are we to regard someone who refutes sound doctrine on a very essential doctrine?
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You see always very cleverly worded... Salvation comes to us as a gift all at once, by grace through faith a one time event. Period
Not this I must keep believing or I loose my salvation.
Which really put the onus of responsibility on us to stayed saved... which is a subtle doctrine of back door works.
I agree.....salvation is not earned by works. I'm certainly not here to defend those misguided doctrines. Salvation is by the faith that continues to the very end. The works are just the footsteps in the sand of that continuing faith. Just as Abraham's footsteps were the footsteps of his faith...
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lot of that going around these days 
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