Is The Cross Of Christ The Most Important Part Of The Plan Of God?

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The cross is the initial event that marks our beginning walk with God!

He wants our worship,and fellowship!
We do this by praying, studying the word and accepting ALL He has for His followers.

He wants our obedience and submission to His will for us in whatever capacity He equipts us for.

The mysteries of God are numerous and His ways higher than ours.

There is so much more after the cross, the baptism in the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts,operations according to His word and working and walking in His calling on a life!
 
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MessageOfTheCross said:
Is The Cross Of Christ The Most Important Part Of The Plan Of God?
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The cross is a key and critical part of God's plan for the redemption of mankind. But it is incomplete without the incarnation, the perfect life of Jesus, and the resurrection and ascension. In the sermons in the book of Acts, the apostles talked more about the resurrection than they did about the crucifixion.

If Jesus had not been God, his death on the cross would have meant nothing. (Hence the importance of the incarnation)
If Jesus had sinned, then his death on the cross would have meant nothing. (Hence the importance of His perfect life)
If Jesus had not risen, then we would still be in our sins. (Hence the importance of the resurrection)
But if Jesus had not died, there would be no atonement for sin. (And the same for any of the above three scenarios - there would be no atonement for sin.)
 
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MessageOfTheCross said:
Is The Cross Of Christ The Most Important Part Of The Plan Of God?
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Why do you keep posting post after post trying to justify the false teachings of Jimmy Swaggart? Sometime back we had another syndrome like this with post after post from false teacher Joseph Prince (and his Hyper Grace associates).

Stick to Gospel truth. GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION INCLUDED BOTH THE CROSS AND THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST. They are inseparable, and anyone who tries to dilute that fact is preaching another Gospel.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Why do you keep posting post after post trying to justify the false teachings of Jimmy Swaggart?
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If you get the foundational truth wrong about the "Message of the Cross (1 Cor. 1:18)," it doesn't matter what you get right. Because the foundation cannot stand! You and others are doing the same thing as "Cain". In your case, you believe that we must add to the "Perfect Sacrifice of Christ", that our "Lord Jesus Christ Sacrifice ONLY (The Blood)" was not good enough.

There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. Proverbs 14:12
 
MessageOfTheCross said:
Is The Cross Of Christ The Most Important Part Of The Plan Of God?
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No. The cross was two timbers tied together. In and of itself, it isn't that important. If the cross was important, then the Church would also recognize/celebrate the thousands of other crosses the Romans used to murder people.
 
We move beyond the cross to access life!

You are mistaken in your belief that it stops with the cross!

Jesus is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE!

There is much in the word of God of a progression toward heavenly things through obedience ,growing past the milk into the meat!

Are you still a BABY or just a PUPPET?
 
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Chester said:
The cross is a key and critical part of God's plan for the redemption of mankind. But it is incomplete without the incarnation, the perfect life of Jesus, and the resurrection and ascension. In the sermons in the book of Acts, the apostles talked more about the resurrection than they did about the crucifixion.
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You are perfectly correct. But this poster is a disciple of Jimmy Swaggart and is simply unable to break his bondage to that man's teachings. But God wants Christians to preach the true and full Gospel and the whole counsel of God.
 
To us right now it is. Christ crucified I the atonement for our sins.
 
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The MOST IMPORTANT PART of God's Master Plan is CHRIST!
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Amen!
He said if you love me keep my commandments!!

His commandments are easy love God above ALL else and your neighbor as yourself!

The word is our instruction in putting off OUR (self) righteousness and putting on His righteousness!


Walk as Jesus walked and follow Him in obedience!
 
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MOTC:

IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING....ANY....MAN,instead of Jesus you will fall by the wayside!
Sorry truth is truth !
 
Romans 4:

23 Now it was not written for his [Abraham's] sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.


The cross represents our offences.

He was raised again for our justification. No resurrection, no justification.


1 Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised ... ye are yet in your sins.



 
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