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JadenS

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EleventhHour said:
This is absolutely wrong.... best to abandon this Roman Catholic false concept... concocted to keep people in submission and dependent upon an evil institution.

I used the word "concocted" in its most pejorative, evil sense.
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What do you plan to do, for all eternity, without a glorified body?
 
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Judges1318 said:
Being able to lose your salvation does mean living in fear that God can't finish what he started.
It means keep believing in the one who can finish what he started.
See the difference?
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Yes, but still not scriptural...... Salvation ...a one time event based on a belief/faith in Jesus to save us which He does.

Salvation one time event based on a singular belief which brings a new spiritual life that is eternal...the very essence of God is within the believer to stay while they walk this earth!!!!!!!

Please stop making Jesus a liar....
 
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EleventhHour

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JadenS said:
What do you plan to do, for all eternity, without a glorified body?
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Does this make sense.....no
All saved people, those who have trusted God for salvation here on this earth will receive their glorified body in next life.

Jaden free your mind by laying down all your wrong dogma ..search for truth!!
 
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EleventhHour said:
Does this make sense.....no
All saved people, those who have trusted God for salvation here on this earth will receive their glorified body in next life.

Jaden free your mind by laying down all your wrong dogma ..search for truth!!
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I was reading John 1 earlier this morning. “But to all who believed Him and accepted Him, He gave the right to become children of God. They are reborn, not with the physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God.” 😎
 
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JadenS

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EleventhHour said:
Does this make sense.....no
All saved people, those who have trusted God for salvation here on this earth will receive their glorified body in next life.

Jaden free your mind by laying down all your wrong dogma ..search for truth!!
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You are not saved; you do not have a gloried body. I am not saved; I do not have a glorified body.
 
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JadenS said:
I believe sound doctrine of Jesus Christ. (y):) YOU DON'T EVEN CLAIM TO BE A CORRECT BELIEVER :mad: IN JESUS CHRIST.
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You put your faith and trust in doctrine rather than Jesus Christ. Only Jesus saves. By the way, I believe in Jesus; that makes me a correct believer.
 
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Judges1318

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JadenS said:
You are not saved; you do not have a gloried body. I am not saved; I do not have a glorified body.
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You're speaking of the redemption of the body.
That is still to come.
But all those who believe are indeed very much saved right now. The body will catch up later.
 
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JadenS said:
You are not saved; you do not have a gloried body. I am not saved; I do not have a glorified body.
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i had this creature on ignore and i clicked to show ignored messages too and i didnt miss much.

who has ever said they have a glorified body right now? salvation is more than just body being saved its also our soul and thats already saved seated in heavenly places in Christ. already in the book of life of the Lamb
 
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JadenS

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Judges1318 said:
You're speaking of the redemption of the body.
That is still to come.
But all those who believe are indeed very much saved right now. The body will catch up later.
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No one has salvation without a glorified body; The redemption of the body is when salvation happens. 99.9% of the people who now claim to be saved are just trying to cover up the fact they are not a correct believer in Jesus Christ; they passionately hate Jesus's sound doctrine.
 
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JadenS

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Melach said:
i had this creature on ignore and i clicked to show ignored messages too and i didnt miss much.

who has ever said they have a glorified body right now? salvation is more than just body being saved its also our soul and thats already saved seated in heavenly places in Christ. already in the book of life of the Lamb
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Our soul is not in heaven. Only those who are a correct believer in Jesus Christ go to heaven.
 
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Judges1318

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EleventhHour said:
Yes, but still not scriptural...... Salvation ...a one time event based on a belief/faith in Jesus to save us which He does.

Salvation one time event based on a singular belief which brings a new spiritual life that is eternal...the very essence of God is within the believer to stay while they walk this earth!!!!!!!

Please stop making Jesus a liar....
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Yes, justification is a one time event that does not have to be repeated (in fact, it can't be repeated). But the reason that justification continues and does not fade away is because the High Priest and his ministry does not end like it did under the old system.

If Jesus stopped interceding for you in heaven you would have no basis for your continued justification. You would lose it. You would be no better off than you were under the old system.

Walking away from the ministry of Christ in unbelief is in effect making Christ dead to you. A Christ who is dead to you because of unbelief is not alive to continually intercede for you who who don't believe and trust in his ministry. He lives to continually intercede for those who do believe and trust in him.
 
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Christ's ministry being eternal doesn't mean you can't lose it (in this life). It means it only had to be performed one time for all time and continues to intercede for ever for the person who continues to trust in it.

You can't have the Son if you do not remain in what you heard in the beginning.
 
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JadenS

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Who Does God Favor More..?

THE DISOBEDIENT OR THE OBEDIENT HUMBLE SERVANT?
 
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JadenS said:
No one has salvation without a glorified body; The redemption of the body is when salvation happens. 99.9% of the people who now claim to be saved are just trying to cover up the fact they are not a correct believer in Jesus Christ; they passionately hate Jesus's sound doctrine.
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Houston, he has a problem.
 
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