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"took lamps" does not mean they were lighted at that time.
"BUT the wise took oil in their vessels WITH *their* lamps"
[and]
"Then all those virginS arose, and TRIMMED THEIR LAMPS" (I don't think anyone can "TRIM their lamps" with oil already in them, I thought that was included in what is known as "trimming a lamp"--getting it all ready to light, IOW)
[again, for the readers, these "virginS [PLURAL]" are not "the BRIDE/WIFE [SINGULAR]" and this scene pertains to the "wedding FEAST/SUPPER" (i.e. their ENTRANCE into the earthly MK age) [v.10 (see nasb, for example)], NOT "the MARRIAGE" itself!]
"BUT the wise took oil in their vessels WITH *their* lamps"
[and]
"Then all those virginS arose, and TRIMMED THEIR LAMPS" (I don't think anyone can "TRIM their lamps" with oil already in them, I thought that was included in what is known as "trimming a lamp"--getting it all ready to light, IOW)
[again, for the readers, these "virginS [PLURAL]" are not "the BRIDE/WIFE [SINGULAR]" and this scene pertains to the "wedding FEAST/SUPPER" (i.e. their ENTRANCE into the earthly MK age) [v.10 (see nasb, for example)], NOT "the MARRIAGE" itself!]
I see these "virgins" as the equivalent of those in Daniel 12:1-4,10 ("the WISE [of Israel, per this Dan context]" versus those [of the same context, in v.10, who the text there says "NONE of... shall understand" (whereas "the WISE [of Israel, per context] SHALL understand")… and how these in Dan12:1-4,10 (at the MID-trib CONTEXT, per vv.1,6-7 [i.e. MID-NIGHT (well after "our Rapture" event, mind you), the "IN THE NIGHT" time-period (see Dan7:7, and 1Th5, etc)… parallel with Daniel 12:1-4,10 is the passages such as Hos5:15-6:3, Rom11:15, Ezek37:12-14,20-23, Isa26:16-21, etc … ALL re: Israel in that future, specific, limited TIME PERIOD which will lead UP TO their promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom commencing upon His "RETURN" to the earth.
The context (Dan12:1-4,10 [mid-trib]) showing what "the WISE" (LIKENED TO a "resurrection") go on TO DO (this is NOT a "bodily/physical resurrection from being formerly physically DEAD" in this passage, like v.13 is), which is, "and they that turn many to righteousness" (that is, DURING THE TRIB yrs, FOLLOWING "our Rapture/THE Departure" of US "IN THE AIR" before "SUNDOWN"/"DARK/DARKNESS / the "IN THE NIGHT" time period)
The context (Dan12:1-4,10 [mid-trib]) showing what "the WISE" (LIKENED TO a "resurrection") go on TO DO (this is NOT a "bodily/physical resurrection from being formerly physically DEAD" in this passage, like v.13 is), which is, "and they that turn many to righteousness" (that is, DURING THE TRIB yrs, FOLLOWING "our Rapture/THE Departure" of US "IN THE AIR" before "SUNDOWN"/"DARK/DARKNESS / the "IN THE NIGHT" time period)
This is why one must be very careful, when dealing with people, who "seemingly" are in "want/need" of oil. For, in every case? Tis not the "oil of the Spirit" they are seeking!
Tis YOUR oil "he/she/they" are after!
Undisciplined "love", and the "undiscerning" of the word "love", has "crippled, and blinded" many a believer! MANY!
Tis YOUR oil "he/she/they" are after!
Undisciplined "love", and the "undiscerning" of the word "love", has "crippled, and blinded" many a believer! MANY!
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Dude, WE are the vessels!
2 Timothy 2:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a VESSEL for honor, [a]sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
2 Corinthians 4:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
Cast Down but Unconquered
7 But we have this treasure in earthen VESSELS that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.
1 Peter 3:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
A Word to Husbands
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker VESSEL, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
The Holy Spirit is indeed represented by the oil. Once a person is born again, He inhabits, and SEALS, the Child of God. AND this "OIL" NEVER runs out!
2 Kings 4-6 New International Version (NIV)
The Widow’s Olive Oil
4 The wife of a man from the company of the prophets cried out to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that he revered the Lord. But now his creditor is coming to take my two boys as his slaves.”
2 Elisha replied to her, “How can I help you? Tell me, what do you have in your house?”
“Your servant has nothing there at all,” she said, “except a small jar of olive oil.”
3 Elisha said, “Go around and ask all your neighbors for empty jars. Don’t ask for just a few. 4 Then go inside and shut the door behind you and your sons. Pour oil into all the jars, and as each is filled, put it to one side.”
5 She left him and shut the door behind her and her sons. They brought the jars to her and she kept pouring. 6 When all the jars were full, she said to her son, “Bring me another one.”
But he replied, “There is not a jar left.” Then the oil stopped flowing.
2 Timothy 2:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a VESSEL for honor, [a]sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
2 Corinthians 4:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
Cast Down but Unconquered
7 But we have this treasure in earthen VESSELS that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.
1 Peter 3:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
A Word to Husbands
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker VESSEL, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
The Holy Spirit is indeed represented by the oil. Once a person is born again, He inhabits, and SEALS, the Child of God. AND this "OIL" NEVER runs out!
2 Kings 4-6 New International Version (NIV)
The Widow’s Olive Oil
4 The wife of a man from the company of the prophets cried out to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that he revered the Lord. But now his creditor is coming to take my two boys as his slaves.”
2 Elisha replied to her, “How can I help you? Tell me, what do you have in your house?”
“Your servant has nothing there at all,” she said, “except a small jar of olive oil.”
3 Elisha said, “Go around and ask all your neighbors for empty jars. Don’t ask for just a few. 4 Then go inside and shut the door behind you and your sons. Pour oil into all the jars, and as each is filled, put it to one side.”
5 She left him and shut the door behind her and her sons. They brought the jars to her and she kept pouring. 6 When all the jars were full, she said to her son, “Bring me another one.”
But he replied, “There is not a jar left.” Then the oil stopped flowing.
IOW, they ain't "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (us; all those saved "in this present age [singular]"); but those who come to faith (or not) FOLLOWING our Rapture and who will exist in the trib yrs (their ENTRANCE or NOT into the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom, as "still-living" persons upon His "RETURN" to the earth; i.e. "the wedding FEAST/SUPPER" not "the MARRIAGE" itself [NO "BRIDE" is in this Matt25:1-13 CONTEXT, IOW... THESE are the "PLURAL VIRGINS" instead... completely distinct issue!])
Guess I gotta repeat THIS:
Dude, WE are the vessels!
2 Timothy 2:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a VESSEL for honor, [a]sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
2 Corinthians 4:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
Cast Down but Unconquered
7 But we have this treasure in earthen VESSELS that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.
1 Peter 3:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
A Word to Husbands
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker VESSEL, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
The Holy Spirit is indeed represented by the oil. Once a person is born again, He inhabits, and SEALS, the Child of God. AND this "OIL" NEVER runs out!
2 Kings 4-6 New International Version (NIV)
The Widow’s Olive Oil
4 The wife of a man from the company of the prophets cried out to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that he revered the Lord. But now his creditor is coming to take my two boys as his slaves.”
2 Elisha replied to her, “How can I help you? Tell me, what do you have in your house?”
“Your servant has nothing there at all,” she said, “except a small jar of olive oil.”
3 Elisha said, “Go around and ask all your neighbors for empty jars. Don’t ask for just a few. 4 Then go inside and shut the door behind you and your sons. Pour oil into all the jars, and as each is filled, put it to one side.”
5 She left him and shut the door behind her and her sons. They brought the jars to her and she kept pouring. 6 When all the jars were full, she said to her son, “Bring me another one.”
But he replied, “There is not a jar left.” Then the oil stopped flowing.
Dude, WE are the vessels!
2 Timothy 2:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a VESSEL for honor, [a]sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
2 Corinthians 4:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
Cast Down but Unconquered
7 But we have this treasure in earthen VESSELS that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.
1 Peter 3:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
A Word to Husbands
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker VESSEL, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
The Holy Spirit is indeed represented by the oil. Once a person is born again, He inhabits, and SEALS, the Child of God. AND this "OIL" NEVER runs out!
2 Kings 4-6 New International Version (NIV)
The Widow’s Olive Oil
4 The wife of a man from the company of the prophets cried out to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that he revered the Lord. But now his creditor is coming to take my two boys as his slaves.”
2 Elisha replied to her, “How can I help you? Tell me, what do you have in your house?”
“Your servant has nothing there at all,” she said, “except a small jar of olive oil.”
3 Elisha said, “Go around and ask all your neighbors for empty jars. Don’t ask for just a few. 4 Then go inside and shut the door behind you and your sons. Pour oil into all the jars, and as each is filled, put it to one side.”
5 She left him and shut the door behind her and her sons. They brought the jars to her and she kept pouring. 6 When all the jars were full, she said to her son, “Bring me another one.”
But he replied, “There is not a jar left.” Then the oil stopped flowing.
Yup. But it doesn't change the fact of the argument that the 5 had NO oil. Which means they did NOT have any Holy Spirit. Which means their tanks didn't just run out of Holy Spirit. Which means they were NEVER saved to begin with. Which means those who want to burn their wicks, with NO OIL, to work their way to heaven, better stop slumbering and get that OIL NOW!
Unless of course, the "giver of the oil" sees that His "oil", is being "exploited, squandered, wasted", whereas the "supply" gets cut off!
Unbeknownst to the vessel!...Dude!
Romans 11
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And herein, lies the problem!
Every believer LOVES the goodness of God. To the point they become blind to the SEVERITY of God!
“A god who is all love, all grace, all mercy, no sovereignty, no justice, no holiness, and no wrath is an idol.”
Unbeknownst to the vessel!...Dude!
Romans 11
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And herein, lies the problem!
Every believer LOVES the goodness of God. To the point they become blind to the SEVERITY of God!
“A god who is all love, all grace, all mercy, no sovereignty, no justice, no holiness, and no wrath is an idol.”
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The lamp that couldn't stay lit at the return of Jesus can mean, either, it ran out of oil, or it never had it to begin with. I think the parable is carefully crafted that way.
The 'vessel', from where the store of oil to be burned in the lamp comes from, could be the workers you cited in the Timothy passage. The unwise virgins without the vessels of oil accompanying their lamps may signify the unwise casting away of the prophets and teachers through whom the filling of the Holy Spirit comes (through their teaching, etc.). They did not listen to them and in effect cast them away, the result being they have no oil to keep their lamps burning. And as a result, they are not saved when Jesus returns.
The 'vessel', from where the store of oil to be burned in the lamp comes from, could be the workers you cited in the Timothy passage. The unwise virgins without the vessels of oil accompanying their lamps may signify the unwise casting away of the prophets and teachers through whom the filling of the Holy Spirit comes (through their teaching, etc.). They did not listen to them and in effect cast them away, the result being they have no oil to keep their lamps burning. And as a result, they are not saved when Jesus returns.