'Demonic Power' May Be behind Opposition to Trump, Says Franklin Graham

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'Demonic Power' May Be behind Opposition to Trump, Says Franklin Graham

Amanda Casanova | ChristianHeadlines Contributing Writer | Monday, November 25, 2019





Franklin Graham, the son of the late Billy Graham, says the political divide in the U.S., including the impeachment proceedings into President Donald Trump, may be a result of “demonic power.”
In an interview with author and radio show host Eric Metaxas, Graham talked about the current state of politics in the country, the Washinton Examiner reports.
“Well, I believe it's almost a demonic power that is trying,” Graham started to say before Metaxas interrupted, saying “I would disagree. It’s not almost demonic. You know and I know, at the heart, it’s a spiritual battle.”
Metaxas called the situation in the country “bizarre,” where people “exist to undermine the president of the United States. It’s just a bizarre time for most Americans.”
Much of the political turmoil has stemmed from Trump’s presidency, but Graham said Trump’s administration has actually been successful.
"If you look at what the president, just for our country, regardless of whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, unemployment is at the lowest in 70 years. More African Americans are working, more Latinos are working, more Asians are working, more everybody is working. We have an economy that is just screaming forward. It's incredible."
Previously, Graham has been criticized for supporting Trump, but Graham told Metaxas that he believes Trump is a believer.
“I believe that Donald Trump believes, he believes in God. He believes in Jesus Christ. His depth, he doesn’t, you know, he went to churches here in New York, he didn’t get a whole lot of teaching,” Graham said according to The Atlantic.
Graham added that Trump has been successful in office, and his work has been impactful for Christian churches.
“More people are working so more people are tithing and giving to churches. There’s more money for missions and for building programs. All of this because Donald Trump said he was going to turn things around and make America great again.
“He’s not a politician and I appreciate that about him,” Graham added. “He’s a businessman, and that’s what we’ve needed in our government. Not politicians. Businessmen, and he’s done that.”
Photo courtesy: Getty Images/Pool



I've thought this for quite some time. I can't recall such opposition being levied toward any sitting President in my time. Not only this that continues unabated, as the Left in office abandon their responsibilities as lawmakers to the electorate that seated them to focus on this singular pursuit. To destroy Donald Trump.

And it is something that, when he is reelected, will continue. Because as the shameful example of Speaker of the House, and an egregious offender of the very laws she ignores concerning illegal immigration, being she employs illegals in her private home as servants, has been heard to say her goal is to put DT in prison.

A Christian president duly elected, who can't be bribed, as others in office have been and can, is beset by Devil's both in office and in spirit.
Pray for America, and our president. Those who wanted to continue the former Muslim Traitor's legacy through his admitted protege' HRC, are dedicated to destroy us even when they don't have the highest seat from whence to commit to that effort.


 

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Metaxas called the situation in the country “bizarre,” where people “exist to undermine the president of the United States. It’s just a bizarre time for most Americans.”
ah and where was Metexas 4-9 years ago?

using the national prayer breakfast to undermine the president of the United States, calling him 'demonic' while that president at the same breakfast gave glory to the risen Lord & recounted the time that he himself prayed over Billy Graham.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/president-prophet-obamas-unusual-encounter-eric-metaxas-mark-joseph/

a crooked mind makes for crooked speech; forked tongues & unjust balances. we repeat propaganda when it's what we want to hear.
 

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I've thought this for quite some time. I can't recall such opposition being levied toward any sitting President in my time. Not only this that continues unabated, as the Left in office abandon their responsibilities as lawmakers to the electorate that seated them to focus on this singular pursuit. To destroy Donald Trump.
this guy, lol

2008-2016 is apparently a big blank gap in his memory, because we had an R congress who literally and openly stated verbatim from day one "our number one goal is to make Obama a one-term president" -- catch that? their #1 job was not to do their job as congressmen and serve the people & the nation, but they considered their #1 job to oppose the sitting president in any and every way possible. and this 'we-refuse-to-do-our-elected-duty-because it's-more-important-to-focus-on-the-singular-pursuit-of-destroying-Obama' congress went on to do nothing but try to keep him from accomplishing anything, even to the point of letting the nation's credit rating tank and shutting down the government multiple times. these same people saying 'good gracious no one has ever been so opposed to a president before' are the ones who 6 years ago were on every media outlet they could find calling the president an antichrist, communist, secret-moslem, satanist, atheist, idiot, evil-genius, whatever they could think of, proudly saying he's 'not their president' and urging people not to pay their taxes until a republican was in the white house.

good grief @Whispered how do you not see through this transparent malarky?

remember just a couple weeks ago how R-party was all over the press saying how unfair and unconstitutional it was that they didn't get to call their own witnesses etc during the fact-finding segment of D-party's investigation into whether there are grounds for impeachment?
it was exactly the same R congressmen in the house that changed the house rules to deny the minority party these privileges, back when R was the majority party and Obama was president. because they wanted to impeach him and they didn't want congressional D's to have a say in it.

do you not see how two-faced all this nonsense is? 5 years ago they were doing exactly the same things they are no saying are unconscionable. it's all a bunch of rubbish and the next time a D is in the white house the exact same people are going to totally flip the script and do all the things they are calling evil today. yesterday they completely devoted themselves to destroying the president. today they say they've never heard of someone trying so hard to destroy a president. BOLOGNA.
 

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Because you say it is malarkey? People who are old enough to vote need to pay attention to what is happening to their country.


Obama was a crooked mind that delivered crooked speeches, with a forked tongue that at one side lulled the gullible to vote for him again , and with the other forked tongue, conferred with the Devil's cult, Islam, as a Muslim and enemy of America.

10/19What Changed Eric Metaxas’ Mind About Trump

BH Obama was a Trojan horse. He appeared to be a Christian presidential candidate on the outside. But inside, he was a Muslim practicing what in Islam is called, Taqiyya.
He slipped when running for office the first time and against a man that with his VP choice had not a chance in the world of winning highest office. An interview with a prominent Journalist at the time, a man who use to work in the Democrats White house under Bill Clinton allowed Obama to expose who he really is in one sentence. No leading, no prior talk about Islam, or being Muslim. An open statement concerning John McCain , Republican presidential candidate.


Obama spoke his truth and then was prompted to return to the lie by George Stephanopoulos . No doubt ordered to correct him by the producers who had his ear. Were I him, I would have ignored the prompting for correction and let the American people decide. We'd be a better off nation if he had.
(I can read lips, trained in the art. This isn't some video edit. I watched this as it happened. "All this over that damn flag!" <Michelle Obama. Barack nods approval. )

And that lie about Trump having Russia connections? No. But Barack? Oh, yes.
 

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Because you say it is malarkey? People who are old enough to vote need to pay attention to what is happening to their country.


Obama was a crooked mind that delivered crooked speeches, with a forked tongue that at one side lulled the gullible to vote for him again , and with the other forked tongue, conferred with the Devil's cult, Islam, as a Muslim and enemy of America.

10/19What Changed Eric Metaxas’ Mind About Trump

BH Obama was a Trojan horse. He appeared to be a Christian presidential candidate on the outside. But inside, he was a Muslim practicing what in Islam is called, Taqiyya.
He slipped when running for office the first time and against a man that with his VP choice had not a chance in the world of winning highest office. An interview with a prominent Journalist at the time, a man who use to work in the Democrats White house under Bill Clinton allowed Obama to expose who he really is in one sentence. No leading, no prior talk about Islam, or being Muslim. An open statement concerning John McCain , Republican presidential candidate.


Obama spoke his truth and then was prompted to return to the lie by George Stephanopoulos . No doubt ordered to correct him by the producers who had his ear. Were I him, I would have ignored the prompting for correction and let the American people decide. We'd be a better off nation if he had.
(I can read lips, trained in the art. This isn't some video edit. I watched this as it happened. "All this over that damn flag!" <Michelle Obama. Barack nods approval. )

And that lie about Trump having Russia connections? No. But Barack? Oh, yes.
Such a bizarre time.
 

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this guy, lol

2008-2016 is apparently a big blank gap in his memory, because we had an R congress who literally and openly stated verbatim from day one "our number one goal is to make Obama a one-term president" -- catch that? their #1 job was not to do their job as congressmen and serve the people & the nation, but they considered their #1 job to oppose the sitting president in any and every way possible. and this 'we-refuse-to-do-our-elected-duty-because it's-more-important-to-focus-on-the-singular-pursuit-of-destroying-Obama' congress went on to do nothing but try to keep him from accomplishing anything, even to the point of letting the nation's credit rating tank and shutting down the government multiple times. these same people saying 'good gracious no one has ever been so opposed to a president before' are the ones who 6 years ago were on every media outlet they could find calling the president an antichrist, communist, secret-moslem, satanist, atheist, idiot, evil-genius, whatever they could think of, proudly saying he's 'not their president' and urging people not to pay their taxes until a republican was in the white house.

good grief @Whispered how do you not see through this transparent malarky?

remember just a couple weeks ago how R-party was all over the press saying how unfair and unconstitutional it was that they didn't get to call their own witnesses etc during the fact-finding segment of D-party's investigation into whether there are grounds for impeachment?
it was exactly the same R congressmen in the house that changed the house rules to deny the minority party these privileges, back when R was the majority party and Obama was president. because they wanted to impeach him and they didn't want congressional D's to have a say in it.

do you not see how two-faced all this nonsense is? 5 years ago they were doing exactly the same things they are no saying are unconscionable. it's all a bunch of rubbish and the next time a D is in the white house the exact same people are going to totally flip the script and do all the things they are calling evil today. yesterday they completely devoted themselves to destroying the president. today they say they've never heard of someone trying so hard to destroy a president. BOLOGNA.
Cmon dude! You can’t be serious.
Obama had, with minuscule exceptions, the entire major media worshipping him. Hollywood bowing down to him. And the education establishment literally indoctrinating him to children as a god!
And show me where the insane push to impeach him was from the GOP?

Please be honest.

Oh. And BTW. We ELECTED the gop for the express purpose of stopping Obama!! What a silly thing to say that they did nothing but try and stop him!
 

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Such a bizarre time.
Post. Tell me in what universe this would be acceptable for school teachers to indoctrinate little kids to sing praises to President Donald Trump?

 
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This is a little fun.

Every time a party is in opposition the congress members are going out of their way to make sure the sitting president looks like an idiot.

The GOP and the Democrats are equally bad.
 
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Franklin Graham is 100% correct

this does not mean I love everything about Pres. Trump

but when you check out the left, well, that is one demonic bunch of lying conspirators

and who is the father of all liars?

Jesus seemed to think it was the devil
 
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ah and where was Metexas 4-9 years ago?

using the national prayer breakfast to undermine the president of the United States, calling him 'demonic' while that president at the same breakfast gave glory to the risen Lord & recounted the time that he himself prayed over Billy Graham.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/president-prophet-obamas-unusual-encounter-eric-metaxas-mark-joseph/

a croolieked mind makes for crooked speech; forked tongues & unjust balances. we repeat propaganda when it's what we want to hear.

what have the Dems done for you?

obviously something because believing liars is not a good thing

no reason to mock though. that gives it away :cautious:
 
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This is a little fun.

Every time a party is in opposition the congress members are going out of their way to make sure the sitting president looks like an idiot.

The GOP and the Democrats are equally bad.

I am pretty much disgusted that the GOP did sqat while they held the house...the speaker, Ryan, was nothing but a fleshed out RINO

the prob with the GOP is that it often seems to be 'everyone for themself' while the strength of the dems is their forming one of the Roman military maneuvers ...called the turtle or tortoise...they just might be falling on their own swords ... hopefully...at this time though
 

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Cmon dude! You can’t be serious.
Obama had, with minuscule exceptions, the entire major media worshipping him. Hollywood bowing down to him. And the education establishment literally indoctrinating him to children as a god!
And show me where the insane push to impeach him was from the GOP?

Please be honest.

Oh. And BTW. We ELECTED the gop for the express purpose of stopping Obama!! What a silly thing to say that they did nothing but try and stop him!
True.
During Obama's first term it was the Democrats in majority. Then Republicans and Democrats were a split for the next four years. Then in the last two years of his second term Republicans were in majority to the end.

Once, a member of Congress was asked about Impeaching Obama out of office. The man interviewed, a member of Congress, said that it had been talked about but rejected because they'd all be charged with racism if they proceeded.
Obama long deserved to be Impeached out of office.
Who do we think told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to violate Federal law and have a computer in her home that wasn't protected, so she could conduct government business off the record? Her boss! That's who. That was Espionage.
 

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Because you say it is malarkey? People who are old enough to vote need to pay attention to what is happening to their country.


Obama was a crooked mind that delivered crooked speeches, with a forked tongue that at one side lulled the gullible to vote for him again , and with the other forked tongue, conferred with the Devil's cult, Islam, as a Muslim and enemy of America.

10/19What Changed Eric Metaxas’ Mind About Trump

BH Obama was a Trojan horse. He appeared to be a Christian presidential candidate on the outside. But inside, he was a Muslim practicing what in Islam is called, Taqiyya.
He slipped when running for office the first time and against a man that with his VP choice had not a chance in the world of winning highest office. An interview with a prominent Journalist at the time, a man who use to work in the Democrats White house under Bill Clinton allowed Obama to expose who he really is in one sentence. No leading, no prior talk about Islam, or being Muslim. An open statement concerning John McCain , Republican presidential candidate.


Obama spoke his truth and then was prompted to return to the lie by George Stephanopoulos . No doubt ordered to correct him by the producers who had his ear. Were I him, I would have ignored the prompting for correction and let the American people decide. We'd be a better off nation if he had.

(I can read lips, trained in the art. This isn't some video edit. I watched this as it happened. "All this over that damn flag!" <Michelle Obama. Barack nods approval. )

And that lie about Trump having Russia connections? No. But Barack? Oh, yes.

Lip reading is not a thing. Ask any deaf person and they will tell you that reading lips amounts to seeing the way someone's mouth moves and trying to figure out what sounds match. Not a science and certainly not accurate.

It's nice to know some people are keeping the conspiracy theories about Obama alive well after he left office.
 
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I think we all just need to get a bit of exorcise.
 

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'Demonic Power' May Be behind Opposition to Trump, Says Franklin Graham

Amanda Casanova | ChristianHeadlines Contributing Writer | Monday, November 25, 2019





Franklin Graham, the son of the late Billy Graham, says the political divide in the U.S., including the impeachment proceedings into President Donald Trump, may be a result of “demonic power.”
In an interview with author and radio show host Eric Metaxas, Graham talked about the current state of politics in the country, the Washinton Examiner reports.
“Well, I believe it's almost a demonic power that is trying,” Graham started to say before Metaxas interrupted, saying “I would disagree. It’s not almost demonic. You know and I know, at the heart, it’s a spiritual battle.”
Metaxas called the situation in the country “bizarre,” where people “exist to undermine the president of the United States. It’s just a bizarre time for most Americans.”
Much of the political turmoil has stemmed from Trump’s presidency, but Graham said Trump’s administration has actually been successful.
"If you look at what the president, just for our country, regardless of whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, unemployment is at the lowest in 70 years. More African Americans are working, more Latinos are working, more Asians are working, more everybody is working. We have an economy that is just screaming forward. It's incredible."
Previously, Graham has been criticized for supporting Trump, but Graham told Metaxas that he believes Trump is a believer.
“I believe that Donald Trump believes, he believes in God. He believes in Jesus Christ. His depth, he doesn’t, you know, he went to churches here in New York, he didn’t get a whole lot of teaching,” Graham said according to The Atlantic.
Graham added that Trump has been successful in office, and his work has been impactful for Christian churches.
“More people are working so more people are tithing and giving to churches. There’s more money for missions and for building programs. All of this because Donald Trump said he was going to turn things around and make America great again.
“He’s not a politician and I appreciate that about him,” Graham added. “He’s a businessman, and that’s what we’ve needed in our government. Not politicians. Businessmen, and he’s done that.”
Photo courtesy: Getty Images/Pool



I've thought this for quite some time. I can't recall such opposition being levied toward any sitting President in my time. Not only this that continues unabated, as the Left in office abandon their responsibilities as lawmakers to the electorate that seated them to focus on this singular pursuit. To destroy Donald Trump.

And it is something that, when he is reelected, will continue. Because as the shameful example of Speaker of the House, and an egregious offender of the very laws she ignores concerning illegal immigration, being she employs illegals in her private home as servants, has been heard to say her goal is to put DT in prison.

A Christian president duly elected, who can't be bribed, as others in office have been and can, is beset by Devil's both in office and in spirit.
Pray for America, and our president. Those who wanted to continue the former Muslim Traitor's legacy through his admitted protege' HRC, are dedicated to destroy us even when they don't have the highest seat from whence to commit to that effort.


Maybe the result? We know it is the result of demonic powers. The complete opposition to God has been very clear and very progressive. We know we are not battling flesh and blood but the spiritual forces behind them. They in their rebellion are just pawns easily tempted and influenced by these demons. Same as any evil people throughout history.
 

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Maybe the result? We know it is the result of demonic powers. The complete opposition to God has been very clear and very progressive. We know we are not battling flesh and blood but the spiritual forces behind them. They in their rebellion are just pawns easily tempted and influenced by these demons. Same as any evil people throughout history.
I would agree , definitely the Democratic party appears to be the result of Demonic powers operating within the party.
Look at how evil HRC was and arrogantly unapologetic about her wrong doings. Even Espionage. And people forget, Obama told her to put that server in her basement!

Blinded by the light darkness.
 

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I'm afraid that unless we just close our eyes, we cannot limit it to just one side of the aisle.
 

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Lip reading is not a thing. Ask any deaf person and they will tell you that reading lips amounts to seeing the way someone's mouth moves and trying to figure out what sounds match. Not a science and certainly not accurate.
:LOL:

It's nice to know some people are keeping the conspiracy theories about Obama alive well after he left office.
No, it isn't a theory.