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Well sir, I always do my research and this is from you video
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we can be saved but in order to stay
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saved we have to hold firmly to the Word
So basically you teach the death and Resurrection of Jesus is insufficient to save....that is religion and not scripture.
Just wondering how firm that grip has to be to stay saved?
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we can be saved but in order to stay
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saved we have to hold firmly to the Word
So basically you teach the death and Resurrection of Jesus is insufficient to save....that is religion and not scripture.
Just wondering how firm that grip has to be to stay saved?
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If you abide in My Word you are truly My disciples and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free. Abide in His love. You reject all 800 commands in the New Testament as you resist the Holy Spirit. If you do not forgive you are not forgiven. There's one condition Jesus put on it. You take away from God's Word to an incredible extent, which brings a curse. But I will wait upon the Lord and He will determine what i am to do. Yes, as He commands, i will hearken diligently unto His voice. Maybe you can know His Kingdom some day. It is beautiful.
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You are making many assumptions
Salvation/Justification is a gift bestowed completely one moment in time
The truth that sets free is this truth...... we do not add to His work........
Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 2:8
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Salvation/Justification is a gift bestowed completely one moment in time
The truth that sets free is this truth...... we do not add to His work........
Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 2:8
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
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^ The ole "IF / THEN" thing, eh? ("IF" you do this and such, "THEN" God will do such and such for you... Is that what you mean??)
Colossians 3:13 -
"bearing with each other and forgiving each other. If anyone should have a complaint against another, even as also the Lord has forgiven you, so also you."
Ephesians 4:32 -
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, as also in Christ God forgave you."
[or,…because we HAVE BEEN forgiven...
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Colossians 3:13 -
"bearing with each other and forgiving each other. If anyone should have a complaint against another, even as also the Lord has forgiven you, so also you."
Ephesians 4:32 -
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, as also in Christ God forgave you."
[or,…because we HAVE BEEN forgiven...
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^ The ole "IF / THEN" thing, eh? ("IF" you do this and such, "THEN" God will do such and such for you... Is that what you mean??)
Colossians 3:13 -
"bearing with each other and forgiving each other. If anyone should have a complaint against another, even as also the Lord has forgiven you, so also you."
Ephesians 4:32 -
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, as also in Christ God forgave you."
[or,…because we HAVE BEEN forgiven... ][/QUOT
Colossians 3:13 -
"bearing with each other and forgiving each other. If anyone should have a complaint against another, even as also the Lord has forgiven you, so also you."
Ephesians 4:32 -
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, as also in Christ God forgave you."
[or,…because we HAVE BEEN forgiven...
][/QUOT
^ The ole "IF / THEN" thing, eh? ("IF" you do this and such, "THEN" God will do such and such for you... Is that what you mean??)
Colossians 3:13 -
"bearing with each other and forgiving each other. If anyone should have a complaint against another, even as also the Lord has forgiven you, so also you."
Ephesians 4:32 -
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, as also in Christ God forgave you."
[or,…because we HAVE BEEN forgiven... ]
Colossians 3:13 -
"bearing with each other and forgiving each other. If anyone should have a complaint against another, even as also the Lord has forgiven you, so also you."
Ephesians 4:32 -
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, as also in Christ God forgave you."
[or,…because we HAVE BEEN forgiven...
]
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[I added the Strong's numbering reference ^ (to show it in the following as well)]
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
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24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
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30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth [/boasting- G2744], let him glory [/boast - G2744] in the Lord.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
[...]
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
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30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth [/boasting- G2744], let him glory [/boast - G2744] in the Lord.
I was bound by sin and Jesus set me free making me righteous, cleansing my heart by faith. He taught me His Kingdom so that I can now enjoy the Sabbath rest for the people of God, doing His will, no longer mine. The static that has followed has shown how the modern church in this country generally rejects this Good News of the Kingdom of God. But I’ve heard from some disciples of Jesus Christ who have more than a form of godliness.
If you are saying that is when you came to faith in Christ and His finished work ^ [the underlined part above ^ ], I have no problem with it (but this is not what your earlier posts have come across as saying).
1 Corinthians 12 -
12 For just as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of the body being many are one body, so also is the Christ. 13 For also in one Spirit we all were baptized [not "water"] into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one Spirit.
Ephesians 1 -
13 in whom you also, having heard the word of truth, the gospel your of salvation, in whom also having believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance to the redemption of the acquired [/purchased-] possession, to the praise of His glory.
[would you say those in 1Cor3:1-4 are "saved" persons, or no??]
1 Corinthians 12 -
12 For just as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of the body being many are one body, so also is the Christ. 13 For also in one Spirit we all were baptized [not "water"] into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one Spirit.
Ephesians 1 -
13 in whom you also, having heard the word of truth, the gospel your of salvation, in whom also having believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance to the redemption of the acquired [/purchased-] possession, to the praise of His glory.
[would you say those in 1Cor3:1-4 are "saved" persons, or no??]
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Have been away from this site for quite some time; was not only away, but astray. During that time, did not attend church but once. Not a good thing, either; His Word says not to forget the gathering together....
With that said, it is disheartening to know that while professing to be Christians, and brothers and sisters in Christ, even the Church seems to have differences within itself. Makes it even harder to get myself to church/a church, as am not sure what to expect; i.e., is this the church for me? Are the members here for real? Can I truly expect to be fed the Word here? Will fellowship follow church time, or only when the doors are open? etc., etc.
Thank you for your time.
With that said, it is disheartening to know that while professing to be Christians, and brothers and sisters in Christ, even the Church seems to have differences within itself. Makes it even harder to get myself to church/a church, as am not sure what to expect; i.e., is this the church for me? Are the members here for real? Can I truly expect to be fed the Word here? Will fellowship follow church time, or only when the doors are open? etc., etc.
Thank you for your time.
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Thank you for sharing. Don’t let the hard, contemporary Pharisees frighten you off. May you come to know Jesus Christ as Savior from sin and not in it. May you come to know Him as Lord through the ministry of the Holy Spirit. The Christian church has so much division because it has not crucified the sinful nature and because it has a million heads, whereas the Church of Jesus Christ has but 1 and therefore moves as 1, with singleness of heart and action. Don’t hesitate to reach out if you need anything. Jesus Christ is both Savior and Lord and ALL Scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished for every good work. Meditate on it night and day. Amen!
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