SHOULD WE CHECK OUR DENOMINATIONS FOR TRUTH?

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Blik

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Dino246 said:
Romans 13:10b "Love is the fulfillment of the Law".

The Law is a unit; you either obey the whole thing: animal sacrifices, priesthood, feasts, thrice-annual visits to the temple, stoning of adulterers and other heinous sinners, and all the rest, or you break the Law. There is no middle ground.

Righteousness is either by perfect obedience to the Law, or by faith in Jesus Christ and His satisfactory fulfillment of the Law. I choose the latter.

Jesus didn't abolish or abrogate bits and pieces of the Law; He made the entire covenant obsolete.
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You either accept Christ and what Christ did for us within your heart so you accept His righteousness as your goal or you reject it. If you oppose God's laws, you oppose Christ within you. Read Romans.

Your view of the law that you keep stating is opposing the gospel. It is opposing all of scripture that speaks of our need of the law.
 
Whispered

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Blik said:
You either accept Christ and what Christ did for us within your heart so you accept His righteousness as your goal or you reject it. If you oppose God's laws, you oppose Christ within you. Read Romans.

Your view of the law that you keep stating is opposing the gospel. It is opposing all of scripture that speaks of our need of the law.
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The Book of Matthew chapter 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
Jesus fulfilled the law of sacrifice as the last letting of blood that redeemed the whole world from sin.
This doesn't mean the rest of the law is void.
The moral law is not.
God said he wrote His law on our hearts so that we would not be separated from it.
The Book of Romans chapter 2:11 for there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without the law shall also perish without the law: and as many as have sinned under the law shall be judged by the law; 13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified; 14 for when Gentiles that have not the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are the law unto themselves; 15 in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness therewith, and their thoughts one with another accusing or else excusing them;
 
Dino246

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Blik said:
You either accept Christ and what Christ did for us within your heart so you accept His righteousness as your goal or you reject it. If you oppose God's laws, you oppose Christ within you. Read Romans.

Your view of the law that you keep stating is opposing the gospel. It is opposing all of scripture that speaks of our need of the law.
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Since you don't understand what I'm saying, I will happily ignore your imprecations.
 
TLC209

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The New Jerusalem
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone. 2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
3 I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.”
5 And the one sitting on the throne said, “Look, I am making everything new!” And then he said to me, “Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true.”6 And he also said, “It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega—the Beginning and the End. To all who are thirsty I will give freely from the springs of the water of life.7 All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be my children.
 
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Consider the following passages.

Jeremiah31:31 “The day is coming,” says the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. 32 This covenant will not be like the one I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt. They broke that covenant, though I loved them as a husband loves his wife,” says the Lord.
33 “But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel after those days,” says the Lord. “I will put my instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34 And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their relatives, saying, ‘You should know the Lord.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will know me already,” says the Lord. “And I will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins.”

Hebrews 10:14 For by that one offering he forever made perfect those who are being made holy.
15 And the Holy Spirit also testifies that this is so. For he says,
16 “This is the new covenant I will make
with my people on that day, says the Lord:
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”
17 Then he says,
“I will never again remember
their sins and lawless deeds.”
18 And when sins have been forgiven, there is no need to offer any more sacrifices.

God will write His laws on our hearts. This is part of His new covenant. If He were abolishing the law and doing away with it why would there be the need to BRAND IT ON OUR HEARTS!

Because His people shall be Holy. Being obedient and following the laws and statutes of God is what seperates us from the world of unbelievers who are in disobedience and rebellion against God. These such rebels yield to their father satan.

Those who belong to God love and obey God and receive His Son as Gods truth sent to reconcile us to Himself. By obedience and submission to Christ. The laws will be written on our hearts at the indwelling of Gods Holy Spirit. We become the temple of God. A Holy People. We cannot teach to disobey His laws or that they no longer apply! That would be herecy!
 
Dino246

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TLC209 said:
God will write His laws on our hearts. This is part of His new covenant. If He were abolishing the law and doing away with it why would there be the need to BRAND IT ON OUR HEARTS!
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Fallacy: equivocation.
 
TLC209

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Dino246 said:
Fallacy: equivocation.
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Youre saying what is false? The scripture?

Dino you dont have to reply to every post just to sound credible. Atleast study the Word or offer scripture to back up your position. I dont see much of that from you besides arrogance. Just saying....
 
Dino246

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TLC209 said:
Youre saying what is false? The scripture?

Dino you dont have to reply to every post just to sound credible. Atleast study the Word or offer scripture to back up your position. I dont see much of that from you besides arrogance. Just saying....
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"Fallacy" and "false" aren't the same thing. A fallacy is an error of reasoning, not an error of fact.
 
Whispered

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TLC209 said:
Consider the following passages.

Jeremiah31:31 “The day is coming,” says the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. 32 This covenant will not be like the one I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt. They broke that covenant, though I loved them as a husband loves his wife,” says the Lord.
33 “But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel after those days,” says the Lord. “I will put my instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34 And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their relatives, saying, ‘You should know the Lord.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will know me already,” says the Lord. “And I will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins.”

Hebrews 10:14 For by that one offering he forever made perfect those who are being made holy.
15 And the Holy Spirit also testifies that this is so. For he says,
16 “This is the new covenant I will make
with my people on that day, says the Lord:
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”
17 Then he says,
“I will never again remember
their sins and lawless deeds.”
18 And when sins have been forgiven, there is no need to offer any more sacrifices.

God will write His laws on our hearts. This is part of His new covenant. If He were abolishing the law and doing away with it why would there be the need to BRAND IT ON OUR HEARTS!

Because His people shall be Holy. Being obedient and following the laws and statutes of God is what seperates us from the world of unbelievers who are in disobedience and rebellion against God. These such rebels yield to their father satan.

Those who belong to God love and obey God and receive His Son as Gods truth sent to reconcile us to Himself. By obedience and submission to Christ. The laws will be written on our hearts at the indwelling of Gods Holy Spirit. We become the temple of God. A Holy People. We cannot teach to disobey His laws or that they no longer apply! That would be herecy!
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Well said!
Jesus was asked during his ministry about the commandments.
The Book of Matthew19:16 And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 2
15. “If you love me, obey my commandments.” The Book of John chapter 14

30.Jesus summed up the ten commandments in two simple truths concerning them. “You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength.” The Book of Mark chapter 12

39.“Love your neighbor as yourself.” The Book of Matthew chapter 22
 
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