Condemning Voices

[Jason_K]

Hi, this evening a few times, I have heard voices coming from outside my apartment telling me things like I am in hell or there are people who know I am in hell. It really is testing my mind, throwing up thoughts that the world around me is actually gone and that this is hell. It's so frightening to think about. I have prayed though and felt much better but I don't want to keep this to myself, I need to keep connections with my brothers and sister - I value privacy and solitude but seeking those things has often led into isolation for me, making me vulnerable to attack.
I remembered the Pastor preaching just yesterday the verse about the gates of hell not even prevailing against the church. I hear positive voices, some of which I think are calling me for a very special purpose and that could be the reason for the relentless attack against my mind.

 

[danja]

please be careful with all those voices you are hearing .Have you checked with a doctor first to see if it is a medical condition ?
I will pray for you .blessings

 

[Jason_K]

please be careful with all those voices you are hearing .Have you checked with a doctor first to see if it is a medical condition ?
I will pray for you .blessings

Thank you for the prayer. I have been very careful and been praying more lately, trying to pray as often as I hear voices. I haven't gone to my doctor yet, they alternate a lot at the doctors I go to so I don't get to know any doctor for all that long and gain trust with them. But I will pray and consider making an appointment.

 

[Bingo]

 

[PennEd]

Hi, this evening a few times, I have heard voices coming from outside my apartment telling me things like I am in hell or there are people who know I am in hell. It really is testing my mind, throwing up thoughts that the world around me is actually gone and that this is hell. It's so frightening to think about. I have prayed though and felt much better but I don't want to keep this to myself, I need to keep connections with my brothers and sister - I value privacy and solitude but seeking those things has often led into isolation for me, making me vulnerable to attack.
I remembered the Pastor preaching just yesterday the verse about the gates of hell not even prevailing against the church. I hear positive voices, some of which I think are calling me for a very special purpose and that could be the reason for the relentless attack against my mind.

It's going to be ok Jason.

If you are a born again Child of God, then there is NOTHING that can separate you from Him. So whether you hear the voices or not, you need not worry at all. Either it's the enemy trying to hurt you because he hates you, or it's as Danja says, a medical condition.

Either way, you are safe. But please do not isolate yourself. It's good you are here, but you really need Godly brethren in person to help you through temptations and the kind of thing you are going through now.

Holy Father, please help this young man realize just how valuable he is to You. Remove any foul, unclean spirits that harass him, and allow him to meet Godly brothers and sisters in You Son. Lead him to the proper medical care if that is the issue. In Jesus Name I pray.

 

[Jason_K]

It's going to be ok Jason.

If you are a born again Child of God, then there is NOTHING that can separate you from Him. So whether you hear the voices or not, you need not worry at all. Either it's the enemy trying to hurt you because he hates you, or it's as Danja says, a medical condition.

Either way, you are safe. But please do not isolate yourself. It's good you are here, but you really need Godly brethren in person to help you through temptations and the kind of thing you are going through now.

Holy Father, please help this young man realize just how valuable he is to You. Remove any foul, unclean spirits that harass him, and allow him to meet Godly brothers and sisters in You Son. Lead him to the proper medical care if that is the issue. In Jesus Name I pray.

Thank you, it is reassuring to hear things will be ok. I think it is mostly the enemy but there could be mental health elements stemming from childhood trauma, which I will look into when I find a compatible therapist again. Yes, I was at church yesterday for the first time in a couple of months and I felt really good after. I plan to make the effort to attend more regularly.

Thank you for the prayer, it means a lot, it has been a long time since someone referred to my value and the it was a huge help when others were in my life who reminded me of that!

 

[EmilyFoster]

I’m praying for you and covering you with the precious blood of Christ. May God fill you with His strength and peace as you lean upon Him.

2 Thessalonians 3:3 But the Lord is faithful, and he will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one.

 

[levi85]

Lord bless Jason_K, and this prayer request, in Jesus loving name, Amen!

 

[tasha66]

Jason, you shouldn't be hearing voices from outside of your apartment when nobody is there.
If sounds like you are internalising stress that has built up inside of you, and you are conflating that with the pastor's sermon on hell - in other words, you are making a connection between the two that does not exist.
Please see a mental health professional or your doctor urgently. There may be a simple explanation, but you do need to get a check up first.
I will pray that you do, and that you feel better soon. Amen.

 

[Butterflyyy]

Yes..maybe good Christian counselling could help... I found a really lovely counsellor and it helps a lot to talk to someone you can trust and who will pray with you x

 

[Jason_K]

Yes..maybe good Christian counselling could help... I found a really lovely counsellor and it helps a lot to talk to someone you can trust and who will pray with you x

Thank you, just yesterday I began seeing a christian counsellor and I felt good; things are looking good!

 

[Jason_K]

Jason, you shouldn't be hearing voices from outside of your apartment when nobody is there.
If sounds like you are internalising stress that has built up inside of you, and you are conflating that with the pastor's sermon on hell - in other words, you are making a connection between the two that does not exist.
Please see a mental health professional or your doctor urgently. There may be a simple explanation, but you do need to get a check up first.
I will pray that you do, and that you feel better soon. Amen.

Thank you Tasha, that sounds like a reasonable explanation, I wish it were simple. With a Chrisitan counsellor yesterday I went through some possible past sins that could have opened doors and the counselor is sure it is the Jezebel spirit behind this. I am planning on going to a healing centre soon that specialize in closing doors we've opened in the past. I have felt freed up more emotionally after just one session and that feels good, I know I have traumas around both parents and healing those wounds will help my mind too. Thank you for your prayers!

 

[mathewbailey08]

Lord Jesus,I understand this issue & I fell I'm having similar issues & I feel that is why I feel also that Satan isn't letting me have anything positive of you such as peace & joy for example.

 

[Butterflyyy]

Lord Jesus,I understand this issue & I fell I'm having similar issues & I feel that is why I feel also that Satan isn't letting me have anything positive of you such as peace & joy for example.

Hey Matthew I just read your post and I was thinking of the scripture,' Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world'
Also it says if we yield to God He will lift up a standard against the enemy.
In Ephesians 6 it talks about the armour of God we use against spiritual attack and I know that reading the Bible is an immense help to me. I have also been helped by other Christians on here praying for me and encouraging me. Keep trusting Him dear brother. Do you have a good Bible based supportive church/fellowship to go to?
God bless🙂

 

[Jason_K]

Lord Jesus,I understand this issue & I fell I'm having similar issues & I feel that is why I feel also that Satan isn't letting me have anything positive of you such as peace & joy for example.

Hi Mathew, we're not in this alone! I will pray for you today. What I have been finding really helpful is turning on a worship music playlist on YouTube all day and that in itself is warfare against any dark spirits around us. Upperroom are an amazing worship band based in Dallas, they are so inspiring. Their "Raise a Hallelujah" is a brilliant one to play at times of spiritual warfare

 

[paisleypanther]

Hi, this evening a few times, I have heard voices coming from outside my apartment telling me things like I am in hell or there are people who know I am in hell. It really is testing my mind, throwing up thoughts that the world around me is actually gone and that this is hell. It's so frightening to think about. I have prayed though and felt much better but I don't want to keep this to myself, I need to keep connections with my brothers and sister - I value privacy and solitude but seeking those things has often led into isolation for me, making me vulnerable to attack.
I remembered the Pastor preaching just yesterday the verse about the gates of hell not even prevailing against the church. I hear positive voices, some of which I think are calling me for a very special purpose and that could be the reason for the relentless attack against my mind.

Dear Jason,

I am so sorry that you have been afflicted in this way. I have struggled similarly in the past (and truth be told, it still affects me sometimes). Trauma is perhaps the hardest thing to overcome. When it is paired with shame from sin, things can get very messy. I remember just earlier this year I was living a very worldly lifestyle. This made me more susceptible to the enemy's influence. For a long time he told me horrible things about myself and the world around me. Remember that Satan is a liar and is even known as the accuser. The horrible things you are hearing are not from God. You can rest quietly in the knowledge that what the voices are saying is not true. I know it is so much more difficult than just that, for it probably feels as if you are being attacked incessantly. Remember that the Lord is on your side and that He cannot be defeated! I pray that you will be able to take solace in His loving and gentle presence.

As others have said, you are completely safe in the presence of the Lord. No trauma, sin, or attack from the enemy can take you out of His mighty hand. Zephaniah 3:17 says, "The LORD your God is in your midst, a mighty One who will save; He will rejoice over you with gladness; He will quiet you by His love; He will exult over you with loud singing." Remember that no matter how loud these voices are, the singing of the Lord, who delights in you, will always be louder!

The greatest piece of advice I can give you as someone who also suffers from trauma and intrusive thoughts is that you are not just being mercilessly attacked by the enemy. You are fighting a spiritual battle, and with God on your side, you are winning! I encourage you as you strive to follow Christ's light. Be wary that the enemy may fight back harder as you continue to read the Bible, attend church, pray, and engage in fellowship with other believers. This is because he realizes he is losing! Remain steadfast and vigilant, knowing that the Lord "trains [your] hands for war, [your] fingers for battle" (Psalm 144:1). I encourage you also to find a devotional that you can read every day. I read Jesus Calling. Also I urge you to read (or perhaps re-read) the Book of Psalms. You can download the YouVersion Bible app and even listen to it on audiobook for free! When the voice of the enemy is loud, make the Word louder.

There are also many Christian songs that I enjoy listening to when I am feeling overcome by Satan's cruel words. Here are a few: Voice of Truth (Casting Crowns), On Eagles Wings (John Michael Talbot), Hold Me Near (Enter The Worship Circle), Psalm 18 (Robbie Seay Band), Tremble (Bethel Music), Waymaker (Michael W. Smith), Sons and Daughters (Iron Bell Music), Bigger Than (For All Seasons), Safe Place (Enter the Worship Circle), It Is Well (Bethel Music), Good & Loved (Travis Greene), Stand In Your Love (Radio Version), Who You Say I Am (Hillsong Worship), You Are Mine (Enter The Worship Circle), Psalm 46 (Bifrost Arts), and Be Not Afraid (John Michael Talbot).

I also urge you to continue seeking therapy and the fellowship of other brothers and sisters in Christ. It is true that you are fighting a battle alongside God. Know that you are also fighting alongside friends! Don't be afraid to continue seeking help. It is so brave that you cried out for help in the first place. Many people have expressed concern for your mental health in this thread. Know that each person's brain is very different and what your brain is doing isn't inherently wrong or evil. What you are experiencing may be spiritual oppression and mental illness, but you are not a bad person for struggling with either of those. I am saying this as a sister in Christ who struggles with both.

I will keep you in my prayers. Remember that you will find safety and rest in the shadow of our Lord's wings.

 

[Bleed]

it's just Satan messing with you. it happens to the best of us. it will pass.

 

[Gregoryp]

Hi, this evening a few times, I have heard voices coming from outside my apartment telling me things like I am in hell or there are people who know I am in hell. It really is testing my mind, throwing up thoughts that the world around me is actually gone and that this is hell. It's so frightening to think about. I have prayed though and felt much better but I don't want to keep this to myself, I need to keep connections with my brothers and sister - I value privacy and solitude but seeking those things has often led into isolation for me, making me vulnerable to attack.
I remembered the Pastor preaching just yesterday the verse about the gates of hell not even prevailing against the church. I hear positive voices, some of which I think are calling me for a very special purpose and that could be the reason for the relentless attack against my mind.

I can relate to what your going through, I hear such things too. And I know I am put aside for a purpose, hence the spiritual warfare going on. Just remember, Jesus always prevails.

 

[Jason_K]

Dear Jason,

I am so sorry that you have been afflicted in this way. I have struggled similarly in the past (and truth be told, it still affects me sometimes). Trauma is perhaps the hardest thing to overcome. When it is paired with shame from sin, things can get very messy. I remember just earlier this year I was living a very worldly lifestyle. This made me more susceptible to the enemy's influence. For a long time he told me horrible things about myself and the world around me. Remember that Satan is a liar and is even known as the accuser. The horrible things you are hearing are not from God. You can rest quietly in the knowledge that what the voices are saying is not true. I know it is so much more difficult than just that, for it probably feels as if you are being attacked incessantly. Remember that the Lord is on your side and that He cannot be defeated! I pray that you will be able to take solace in His loving and gentle presence.

As others have said, you are completely safe in the presence of the Lord. No trauma, sin, or attack from the enemy can take you out of His mighty hand. Zephaniah 3:17 says, "The LORD your God is in your midst, a mighty One who will save; He will rejoice over you with gladness; He will quiet you by His love; He will exult over you with loud singing." Remember that no matter how loud these voices are, the singing of the Lord, who delights in you, will always be louder!

The greatest piece of advice I can give you as someone who also suffers from trauma and intrusive thoughts is that you are not just being mercilessly attacked by the enemy. You are fighting a spiritual battle, and with God on your side, you are winning! I encourage you as you strive to follow Christ's light. Be wary that the enemy may fight back harder as you continue to read the Bible, attend church, pray, and engage in fellowship with other believers. This is because he realizes he is losing! Remain steadfast and vigilant, knowing that the Lord "trains [your] hands for war, [your] fingers for battle" (Psalm 144:1). I encourage you also to find a devotional that you can read every day. I read Jesus Calling. Also I urge you to read (or perhaps re-read) the Book of Psalms. You can download the YouVersion Bible app and even listen to it on audiobook for free! When the voice of the enemy is loud, make the Word louder.

There are also many Christian songs that I enjoy listening to when I am feeling overcome by Satan's cruel words. Here are a few: Voice of Truth (Casting Crowns), On Eagles Wings (John Michael Talbot), Hold Me Near (Enter The Worship Circle), Psalm 18 (Robbie Seay Band), Tremble (Bethel Music), Waymaker (Michael W. Smith), Sons and Daughters (Iron Bell Music), Bigger Than (For All Seasons), Safe Place (Enter the Worship Circle), It Is Well (Bethel Music), Good & Loved (Travis Greene), Stand In Your Love (Radio Version), Who You Say I Am (Hillsong Worship), You Are Mine (Enter The Worship Circle), Psalm 46 (Bifrost Arts), and Be Not Afraid (John Michael Talbot).

I also urge you to continue seeking therapy and the fellowship of other brothers and sisters in Christ. It is true that you are fighting a battle alongside God. Know that you are also fighting alongside friends! Don't be afraid to continue seeking help. It is so brave that you cried out for help in the first place. Many people have expressed concern for your mental health in this thread. Know that each person's brain is very different and what your brain is doing isn't inherently wrong or evil. What you are experiencing may be spiritual oppression and mental illness, but you are not a bad person for struggling with either of those. I am saying this as a sister in Christ who struggles with both.

I will keep you in my prayers. Remember that you will find safety and rest in the shadow of our Lord's wings.

Hi paisleypanther, thank you so much for your very encouraging reply! You are right about trauma being one of the hardest things to overcome, especially when paired with sin. Shame is a difficult thing for me and an area where I can be weak toward the enemy so I find myself having to be careful the instant past sins spring to my mind - daily communion has been helping me with that. It certainly feels like incessant attack, so much so that I would have to be God himself to rebuke every single voice! So when I have run out of energy, I ask Jesus to do the rebuking for me and He knows my heart and knowledge of which scriptures I would use to counterattack

The "He will quiet you by His love" part of the Zephaniah verse brought a warmth and hope up for me, I would love nothing more than quietness and His stillness in my mind. I trust that will come as I keep striving for Christs light as you urged me to.
That couldn't be more true that the enemy is fighting back even harder now, as I've been going to church and getting deeper into the Word. Just last week after seeing a christian counsellor for the first time, I felt it was a sure step in the right direction. When I got back to the train station, I realised my bike was stolen and at that point my mind was plunged into chaos. Thankfully I called a prayerline during all that chaos and the lady who answered was very firm in stressing my standing firm on the word no matter how strong the attack. I was so upset about my bike but I got passed it and now have a new bike that I will guard with my life!
I will check out that daily devotional and bible apps, thank you for the suggestion. Yes the book of Psalms I am almost at the end of reading all of them for the second time this year, they are the book I identify most with in the Bible and especially David's psalms.

Thanks for the music suggestions, I have already gone through a few on the list and will get round to the rest soon. I loved "Hold Me Near" by Enter the Worship Circle so I will definitely be checking out more of their stuff on YouTube!

I will surely still keep seeking therapy, it is an important road for me to go down as I've found in my life that I don't receive the level of commitment and consistency I need anywhere outside of a therapeutic relationship. I worked with a christian therapist for over 8 years until May 2014 and healed; I never experienced such burning joy in my heart and gut as I did toward the end and some months after that therapy. Now it seems that healing has been stolen and taking it back it apart of the spiritual battle I am in.

Thank you for your prayers, I really appreciate them and your response.

 

[Jason_K]

I can relate to what your going through, I hear such things too. And I know I am put aside for a purpose, hence the spiritual warfare going on. Just remember, Jesus always prevails.

Great thank you, glad I am not alone in this struggle. Like Hebrews 12.2 says, I keep my "eyes fixed on Jesus" everyday!