Is total depravity (radical corruption) a biblical teaching?
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Go to some website where rabid, anti-Reformed people are willing to feed your mind with cherry picked portions of the book 
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John Wesley was a high-church Anglican and particularly as pertained to the Sacraments. He also believed in constant communion.
Wesley denied Ms. Sophy Hopkey, who had married someone else by this time, communion. And not because she had jilted him, but because she had not confessed prior to seeking communion.
Something Wesley believed in strongly as necessary before receiving the Sacrament.
Ms. Hopkey left the church in tears. The colonists took out a warrant on Wesley for shaming the woman publicly and denying her communion due to his hard and fast rule about confession. Wesley fled back to England when his trial to answer the warrant was repeatedly postponed, and aboard ship he faces a huge storm that threatens everyone's safety.
It was in the midst of that terror at see that Wesley found his faith reaffirmed, as he wrote in his journal.
‘I went to Georgia to save the Indians, but who is going to save me?’”
During a prayer meeting in England where Wesley had decided,with reservations, to attend Aldersgate Street, where there was a reading of Martin Luther’s preface to the Epistle to the Romans. Wesley felt moved by the spirit of God and his faith was renewed as he also penned in his journal.
‘I felt my heart strangely warmed and I trusted Christ and Christ alone for my salvation. And assurance was given to me that my sins were forgiven ... even mine."
You can read more here. Journal of John Wesley @ CCEL.Org
Wesley denied Ms. Sophy Hopkey, who had married someone else by this time, communion. And not because she had jilted him, but because she had not confessed prior to seeking communion.
Something Wesley believed in strongly as necessary before receiving the Sacrament.
Ms. Hopkey left the church in tears. The colonists took out a warrant on Wesley for shaming the woman publicly and denying her communion due to his hard and fast rule about confession. Wesley fled back to England when his trial to answer the warrant was repeatedly postponed, and aboard ship he faces a huge storm that threatens everyone's safety.
It was in the midst of that terror at see that Wesley found his faith reaffirmed, as he wrote in his journal.
‘I went to Georgia to save the Indians, but who is going to save me?’”
During a prayer meeting in England where Wesley had decided,with reservations, to attend Aldersgate Street, where there was a reading of Martin Luther’s preface to the Epistle to the Romans. Wesley felt moved by the spirit of God and his faith was renewed as he also penned in his journal.
‘I felt my heart strangely warmed and I trusted Christ and Christ alone for my salvation. And assurance was given to me that my sins were forgiven ... even mine."
You can read more here. Journal of John Wesley @ CCEL.Org
What's worse -- cherry picking or distorting Gospel truth?
While you have been shown the GROSS FALLACIES of Reformed Theology over and over again, you have refused to give heed to Scriptures given in proper context. So what does that make you?
Instead of making Bible Christianity the truth, you have had Reformed Theology the truth.
While you have been shown the GROSS FALLACIES of Reformed Theology over and over again, you have refused to give heed to Scriptures given in proper context. So what does that make you?
Instead of making Bible Christianity the truth, you have had Reformed Theology the truth.
An interesting comment, i have never READ JOHN CALVIN and i hate the wicked thought that Calvinism flows from "John Calvin", Martin Luther wrote about predestination before John Calvin did, that type of argument is foolish.
The bible tells us this:
Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.
The bible tells us this:
Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.
Brethren, I would advice against being so quick to judge a man who we do not personally know. God is the judge, what will you say at the judgment seat of Christ if Calvin was a saved man? What will your explanation to the Lord be, as to why you put His servants' name through the mud and made such comments about him?
This advice goes for everyone, including me
This advice goes for everyone, including me
I don't think I ever mentioned Predestination, TULIP, or Calvinism at all. I said I read his premier work The Institutes of The Christian Religion..... (at the moment, I am in the midst of rereading it — [this will be four times, total]), and I find him to be much less of a man than I had once thought he was.
Oh ok, fair enough, i haven't read the man, you seem to be having a bad opinion about him, can i ask why that is? that you believe John Calvin to be a hateful person? an arrogant man? are you sure about that? i mean that's a pretty strong judgment. Since youve read it neally four times, please share why?
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By the way, I will admit that Calvin had the capacity for coming across as arrogant.
I don't think that was prevalent in the Institutes, but in some of his early works, such as a paper he did refuting soul sleep, he called those individuals teaching it "ignorant persons".
However that was tame speech compared to Luther and others at that time.
The free-willers on this forum are a lot more rude than John Calvin. And, if you are passive with certain people, they will simply bulldoze you.
Jesus wasn't passive with Pharisees either.
I don't think that was prevalent in the Institutes, but in some of his early works, such as a paper he did refuting soul sleep, he called those individuals teaching it "ignorant persons".
However that was tame speech compared to Luther and others at that time.
The free-willers on this forum are a lot more rude than John Calvin. And, if you are passive with certain people, they will simply bulldoze you.
Jesus wasn't passive with Pharisees either.
Well, it is some 1,600+ pages of VERY difficult reading, so I couldn't just through out a few quotes. But, it is online (FREE) for anyone to download. Get it and read it.
For starters, he referred to the opinions and thoughts of others who disagreed with him as "absurd" 286 times. And that was one of the milder descriptions he used of other men. He even refers to what he calls "the reprobates" as "brutes" created to expressly deny God and to die because of what they were born to be.
For starters, he referred to the opinions and thoughts of others who disagreed with him as "absurd" 286 times. And that was one of the milder descriptions he used of other men. He even refers to what he calls "the reprobates" as "brutes" created to expressly deny God and to die because of what they were born to be.
Why does he refer to them as brutes made for destruction?
Read Romans 9 and Jude and you will see why.
That's what the Bible says.
I like to use the word "absurd", too, in reference to decisional regeneration.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/vessels-destruction/
Read Romans 9 and Jude and you will see why.
That's what the Bible says.
I like to use the word "absurd", too, in reference to decisional regeneration.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/vessels-destruction/