Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

[gaviriachristian]

And I believe you said this happens in 6000 YB. What day does that translate into on the calendars that most people use?

Elul 22 5999 YB would be around September 4, 2026. That would be the estimated time of the second coming of the Messiah, in the morning in Jerusalem time. Read my bible study on the current year since creation and why the Messiah would appear in the year 6000. http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/11/0...-yb-jubilees-and-the-12901335-days-of-daniel/

 

[A-Fool-For-God]

So which lie is it, 8 hills, or 9 hills? Or should we venture off north into Milan and perhaps include one of those hills too? It never ceases to amaze me how people who want to refuse to believe the truth will find any dumb way they can to disbelieve the obvious truth, as if Rome didn't play any part in world history to surely not include it any scope to the beasts of Daniel and Revelation. Ignorant.

Well the lie is that Rome is the whore. Lol I could have just easily pointed out that the prophecy plainly states that the whore is that city where our Lord and Savior was crucified. Oh that great city whom killed the prophets and whom Lord God likens unto a slut more than any other in the Bible.

Rome has 8 hills inside it at its foundation as the map I share with you show (I also have a map in the book Parallel Lives by Plutarch to confirm that map and which also includes Janiculum Hill.) 9 hills if you count the Janiculum Hill which is west of the Tiber River and became incorporated into Rome as the city grew. Either way you want to cut it though (original foundation of Rome, or Rome at its zenith) that's not 7 hills.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Well the lie is that Rome is the whore. Lol I could have just easily pointed out that the prophecy plainly states that the whore is that city where our Lord and Savior was crucified. Oh that great city whom killed the prophets and whom Lord God likens unto a slut more than any other in the Bible.

Rome has 8 hills inside it at its foundation as the map I share with you show (I also have a map in the book Parallel Lives by Plutarch to confirm that map and which also includes Janiculum Hill.) 9 hills if you count the Janiculum Hill which is west of the Tiber River and became incorporated into Rome as the city grew.

Look, this is what I always say to the people who refute the obvious truth that Vatican City is the prostitute of Babylon of Revelation. Well, then by all means, interpret all these aspects of the visions of Daniel and Revelation, if you can:

1. Who is the first beast of Daniel, which is the lion, and how does it relate to the mouth of a lion of the first beast of Revelation.
2. Who is the second beast of Daniel, which is the bear, and how does it relate to the feet of a bear of the first beast of Revelation.
3. Who is the third beast of Daniel, which is the leopard, and how does it relate to the appearance of the leopard of the first beast of Revelation.
4. Who is the fourth beast of Daniel, which has ten horns, and how does it relate to the ten horns of the first beast of Revelation.
5. How does the 4th beast devour the entire earth and how does that relate to the prostitute of Babylon ruling over all the kings of the earth?
6. Who are the 7 heads of the first beast of Revelation, and which is the head that was wounded and was healed?
7. Who is the 8th head of the first beast of Revelation?
8. Who is the second beast of Revelation?
9. What is the mark of the beast and how did the second beast issue it and how does it relate to the prostitute of Babylon?
10. What is the image of the beast and how does the second beast cause the inhabitants of the earth to establish it?

Only someone who holds the truth can piece this all together and relate it to each other, because it is very complex and only the truth can piece it all together logically and coherently and in relation to actual history. And well, not to toot my my horn too much, I have pieced it all together, in a coherent and logical explanation interpreting each of this aspects of each vision and how they all relate together and how they all relate to actual history, not made up history, http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/12/0...the-mark-of-the-beast-and-the-meaning-of-666/ .

So let us see what you can come up with, if you even can.

What I find is that most people are quick to try to poke holes in the truth here and there, because they don't want to believe the truth, yet they have nothing to bring to the table regarding a true interpretation to these visions, because they ultimately do not have the truth. It's like trying to tell a flat earther the world is spherical and they keep going back to their nonsensical explanations as to why the earth must be flat. Ignorant.

 

[garee]

Plenty. And I am well stocked on food also. There are only 7 years left until the second coming of the Messiah, so there is no need to stock up or prepay excessively, only for a few more years.

Sounds like Nostradamus future telling, as guesses conspiracy theories .

Christ will come like a thief in the night. Maybe tomorrow. We continue to walk by faith the unseen eternal. No sign as a wonder "source of faith" is given.

Jesus says its an evil generation that does seek after or walk by sight. . . after the temporal as that seen. No outward sign was given.
Signs of the times nothing changing, history repeating itself, yes .

Its not a famine for food that one must concern themselves with but famine for hearing the word of God. The gospel of our salvation.
The buying and selling has do with spiritual unseen matters, not matters of the flesh that must die.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Sounds like Nostradamus future telling, as guesses conspiracy theories .

Christ will come like a thief in the night. Maybe tomorrow. We continue to walk by faith the unseen eternal. No sign as a wonder "source of faith" is given.

Jesus says its an evil generation that does seek after or walk by sight. . . after the temporal as that seen. No outward sign was given.
Signs of the times nothing changing, history repeating itself, yes .

Its not a famine for food that one must concern themselves with but famine for hearing the word of God. The gospel of our salvation.
The buying and selling has do with spiritual unseen matters, not matters of the flesh that must die.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Using the appointed times of the Torah and the book of Revelation is not "future telling" as if I were a fortune teller. Now, if I told you, "I had a dream and the second coming is going to happen tomorrow", now surely there may reason to be skeptical that what I'm saying is true, because it came from me, only time could prove if what I said is true or not when tomorrow finally does come. But these appointed times come from the Torah and the book of Revelation, which is what I use to derive the calculation of when the Messiah would appear. It is wise, because it is based on concrete things. And if you look at my calculation of the year we are in since creation, you can see every genealogy and timeline added from Adam until now with precision, in correlation with the known Yovel years of the Torah, and even converting each event from its corresponding year it happened since creation to the Roman year coincides very precisely with the known year of those events. Do you not understand how significant and remarkable this is? So that is why I have said repeatedly, I am blessing you people with so much knowledge, yet my pearls are wasted on dogs who do not value pearls. Perhaps the search engines will pick up these posts and comments and it will benefit other people searching for the truth on the internet. But my hope is that maybe one or two of you will listen and will make my time on this forum worthwhile.

 

[garee]

Gold and silver is not "fiat", because gold and silver have value. Whereas paper is less common, and has zero to very little value. But the banks give it a value as valuable as gold, but it's true value, which is paper, is not that value, which is why it is "fiat" money. It is an imaginary value, a false value, which they use to steal, through the ignorance of the masses.

Gold and silver is not "fiat", because gold and silver have value. backed up by the flat currency level. What's the rate today?

Give to God not seen, what belong to Him. Like our new born again faith by which we can do the first works of God that works in us to will and perform his good pleasure. It is by that which we can hear what he says to the churches.

What the eyes see as images on paper have no power to give to another faith to believe or disbelieve . Unless men attribute it as a theory . It remain powerless as superstitious. In that way nothing is evil of what men see save the evil, invisible one, the father of lies.

 

[Dan_473]

Elul 22 5999 YB would be around September 4, 2026.

I checked out your website. Why is the date that you give above only an estimate? What prevents the exact calculation of a date and an hour?

 

[gaviriachristian]

I checked out your website. Why is the date that you give above only an estimate? What prevents the exact calculation of a date and an hour?

Because our years are no longer 360 days, which makes determining which crescent moon in our current years is truly "New Moon 1" of the Torah more difficult to determine on any given year, which then dictates when the rest of the appointed times for that year happen. So the New Moon 7 Day 1 of the ancient calendar of the Torah may not necessarily be on Tishri 1, it could be on Chesvan 1. So there may be up to a one month difference between that date and the actual timing of the second coming of the Messiah, although in my opinion it is unlikely, because Nisan 1 in 2026 happens right at the beginning of the equinox, which would make Nisan 1 the New Moon 1 of the Torah, and therefore Tishri 1 the New Moon 7 of the Torah, which is the correct time of the appointed time of the trumpet blasts. I discuss all this in my bible study regarding the calendar of the Torah. http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/10/2...nd-fulfillment-of-the-festivals-of-the-torah/

 

[garee]

Using the appointed times of the Torah and the book of Revelation is not "future telling" as if I were a fortune teller. Now, if I told you, "I had a dream and the second coming is going to happen tomorrow", now surely there may reason to be skeptical that what I'm saying is true, because it came from me, only time could prove if what I said is true or not when tomorrow finally does come. But these appointed times come from the Torah and the book of Revelation, which is what I use to derive the calculation of when the Messiah would appear. It is wise, because it is based on concrete things. And if you look at my calculation of the year we are in since creation, you can see every genealogy and timeline added from Adam until now with precision, in correlation with the known Yovel years of the Torah, and even converting each event from its corresponding year it happened since creation to the Roman year coincides very precisely with the known year of those events. Do you not understand how significant and remarkable this is? So that is why I have said repeatedly, I am blessing you people with so much knowledge, yet my pearls are wasted on dogs who do not value pearls. Perhaps the search engines will pick up these posts and comments and it will benefit other people searching for the truth on the internet. But my hope is that maybe one or two of you will listen and will make my time on this forum worthwhile.

Sounds like a great goal.But I think we wil walk by faith until the last twinkling of the eye. And we will be changed forever more. Like a thief in the night. We are warned like Noah but he still came as a thief . Most were lost unaware.

What difference would that make say between you and Harold Camping who seemed to have a good teaching style. But errored in trying to set a day. I think his total years of creation were more like 11,000 BC +2000 = 13,000 today.

 

[Dan_473]

Because our years are no longer 360 days, which makes determining which crescent moon in our current years is truly "New Moon 1" of the Torah more difficult to determine on any given year, which then dictates when the rest of the appointed times for that year happen. So the New Moon 7 Day 1 of the ancient calendar of the Torah may not necessarily be on Tishri 1, it could be on Chesvan 1. So there may be up to a one month difference between that date and the actual timing of the second coming of the Messiah, although in my opinion it is unlikely, because Nisan 1 in 2026 happens right at the beginning of the equinox, which would make Nisan 1 the New Moon 1 of the Torah, and therefore Tishri 1 the New Moon 7 of the Torah, which is the correct time of the appointed time of the trumpet blasts. I discuss all this in my bible study regarding the calendar of the Torah. http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/10/2...nd-fulfillment-of-the-festivals-of-the-torah/

I see. But in your interpretation of prophecy, it sounds like the coming of Jesus must relate to a particular phase of the moon.

So a particular set of dates could be narrowed down, it looks like. Like, probably September 4th, but if not that day, then October 2nd for sure.

Doesn't the second coming also correspond to the blowing of a particular trumpet? Is that trumpet blown at a particular time of day?

Yes?

 

[gaviriachristian]

Sounds like a great goal.But I think we wil walk by faith until the last twinkling of the eye. And we will be changed forever more. Like a thief in the night. We are warned like Noah but he still came as a thief . Most were lost unaware.

What difference would that make say between you and Harold Camping who seemed to have a good teaching style. But errored in trying to set a day. I think his total years of creation were more like 11,000 BC +2000 = 13,000 today.

Because unlike him my timeline is based on the understanding that 7,000 years have been appointed for the existence of this, with the last 1,000 years appointed as a millennial shabbath rest for this earth, which corresponds to the 1,000 year rulership of the Messiah mentioned in Revelation, which is the very reason God created in six 6 days, and set apart the 7th day as a shabbath, to foreshadow these times he established for the earth at a grander scale, hence "one day is as a thousand years and a thousand as one day with the Lord". There is a profound deep truth expressed in that simple statement. And because I have this understanding is why I have been able to accurately derive a timeline precisely from Adam until now, which fits with actual historical dates for each segment of time. Are there not two expressions that say, "the proof is in the pudding" and "the numbers don't lie"? Well, my numbers are the proof in the pudding and they do not lie. See for yourself and see that what I am saying is true, http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/11/0...-yb-jubilees-and-the-12901335-days-of-daniel/

 

[A-Fool-For-God]

Look, this is what I always say to the people who refute the obvious truth that Vatican City is the prostitute of Babylon of Revelation. Well, then by all means, interpret all these aspects of the visions of Daniel and Revelation, if you can:

1. Who is the first beast of Daniel, which is the lion, and how does it relate to the mouth of a lion of the first beast of Revelation.
2. Who is the second beast of Daniel, which is the bear, and how does it relate to the feet of a bear of the first beast of Revelation.
3. Who is the third beast of Daniel, which is the leopard, and how does it relate to the appearance of the leopard of the first beast of Revelation.
4. Who is the fourth beast of Daniel, which has ten horns, and how does it relate to the ten horns of the first beast of Revelation.
5. How does the 4th beast devour the entire earth and how does that relate to the prostitute of Babylon ruling over all the kings of the earth?
6. Who are the 7 heads of the first beast of Revelation, and which is the head that was wounded and was healed?
7. Who is the 8th head of the first beast of Revelation?
8. Who is the second beast of Revelation?
9. What is the mark of the beast and how did the second beast issue it and how does it relate to the prostitute of Babylon?
10. What is the image of the beast and how does the second beast cause the inhabitants of the earth to establish it?

Only someone who holds the truth can piece this all together and relate it to each other, because it is very complex and only the truth can piece it all together logically and coherently and in relation to actual history. And well, not to toot my my horn too much, I have pieced it all together, in a coherent and logical explanation interpreting each of this aspects of each vision and how they all relate together and how they all relate to actual history, not made up history, http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/12/0...the-mark-of-the-beast-and-the-meaning-of-666/ .

So let us see what you can come up with, if you even can.

What I find is that most people are quick to try to poke holes in the truth here and there, because they don't want to believe the truth, yet they have nothing to bring to the table regarding a true interpretation to these visions, because they ultimately do not have the truth. It's like trying to tell a flat earther the world is spherical and they keep going back to their nonsensical explanations as to why the earth must be flat. Ignorant.

1 Chaldean-Babylon
2 Medo-Persia Achaemenids
3 Greco-Roman Javanites

These three as we see from Daniel have their days prolonged, and as we see in the beast of Revelation, elements of them will be in the final beast.

4 The Fourth Beast is diverse from the Three Beasts and has not yet come, the ten horns are ten kings which have yet to receive their kingdom.

5 With the arms of a flood conquering by flattery he will come and enter into the holy land and tread where he ought not tread. The Kings of North and South will fight eachother for a period. Then the King of the North will make a false peace with the King of the South and so they will create an empire that is, was, but yet it is not, for it is all just a lie really and by the lie the 10 kings will rule over a falsely unified world and serve a false god which the fathers knew not. Like iron mixed with clay, the two sides will be one kingdom partly strong and partly weak, and yet it will not really be a kingdom because they will not cleave one to another just like iron does not mix with clay. A Kingdom of Lies (for Lies are the power of Satan) that was, is not, and yet is.

6 The seven heads are 7 mountains. And there are 7 kings, 5 are fallen, one is, and one is to come. The wounded head is the one that shall be fatally wounded and restored to make all the world marvel.

7 I can't find any mention of an 8th head after searching through Daniel and Revelation. But if you mean the 8th King, he is the Beast that was and yet is not, and is of the 7.

8 This is the false prophet, the man of sin who speaks like a dragon for Satan, that old serpent, will give him his power.

9 The Beast causes the people to take the mark on their forehead or hands willingly. Those with the mark can buy and sell, but not those without it.

10 It is the idol of the Beast and the Devil, that dragon, he will give the Beast his power and his authority and will make the image of the Beast to speak and to blaspheme. The Beast shall place the idol in the place where it ought not to stand.

 

[gaviriachristian]

I see. But in your interpretation of prophecy, it sounds like the coming of Jesus must relate to a particular phase of the moon.

So a particular set of dates could be narrowed down, it looks like. Like, probably September 4th, but if not that day, then October 2nd for sure.

Doesn't the second coming also correspond to the blowing of a particular trumpet? Is that trumpet blown at a particular time of day?

Yes?

The second coming of the Messiah will be 7.5 days prior to the beginning of a crescent moon, for the appointed times of the Torah and the Messiah all relate to the moon, for that is what the ancient calendar of the Torah is based on, the moon. The coming of the Messiah relates to the trumpet blasts of New Moon 7 Day 1 in the Torah, which is a crescent moon since its the beginning of a month, and his coming is 7.5 priors to that, which is how we know he comes in New Moon 6 Day 22, midway through the day, which would be morning, for days in the Torah are evening then morning, one day.

 

[Dino246]

I find it comical how you accuse me of "profiting", when I myself purchased all my necessities to then live in a poor neighborhood in a third world country to be able to help the poor here and give my teaching for free to them and through the internet, yet somehow you think that your megachurch pastors who collect tithes and sell books and fly in their private jets are not "profiting". A fool cannot discern good even if it smacked him on the head to try to get him to understand. You people find any reason to disbelieve the truth, all to your own demise and condemnation.

Fallacy: tu quoque. Not valid.

 

[Dan_473]

The second coming of the Messiah will be 7.5 days prior to the beginning of a crescent moon, for the appointed times of the Torah and the Messiah all relate to the moon, for that is what the ancient calendar of the Torah is based on, the moon. The coming of the Messiah relates to the trumpet blasts of New Moon 7 Day 1 in the Torah, which is a crescent moon since its the beginning of a month, and his coming is 7.5 priors to that, which is how we know he comes in New Moon 6 Day 22, midway through the day, which would be morning, for days in the Torah are evening then morning, one day.

Is the data available for the phases of the moon in 2026? It sounds like it would have to relate to one of those new moons, the dates of which are known, I suspect.

Does the Hebrew morning begin at dawn? The time of sunrise in Jerusalem would also be known, I assume.

 

[Dino246]

That's because you've fooled yourself into believing Rome has 9 hills, to then justify rejecting the truth that she is considered to have seven, for not only do the scriptures say she has seven, for Vatican City is indeed the prostitute of Babylon seated on the seven hills of Rome, but even Wikipedia agrees that she is the city of seven hills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_hills_of_Rome . So the one fooling himself is you.

Hail the all-knowing Wiki! Hail!

smh...

 

[gaviriachristian]

1 Chaldean-Babylon
2 Medo-Persia Achaemenids
3 Greco-Roman Javanites

These three as we see from Daniel have their days prolonged, and as we see in the beast of Revelation, elements of them will be in the final beast.

4 The Fourth Beast is diverse from the Three Beasts and has not yet come, the ten horns are ten kings which have yet to receive their kingdom.

5 With the arms of a flood conquering by flattery he will come and enter into the holy land and tread where he ought not tread. The Kings of North and South will fight eachother for a period. Then the King of the North will make a false peace with the King of the South and so they will create an empire that is, was, but yet it is not, for it is all just a lie really and by the lie the 10 kings will rule over a falsely unified world and serve a false god which the fathers knew not. Like iron mixed with clay, the two sides will be one kingdom partly strong and partly weak, and yet it will not really be a kingdom because they will not cleave one to another just like iron does not mix with clay. A Kingdom of Lies (for Lies are the power of Satan) that was, is not, and yet is.

6 The seven heads are 7 mountains. And there are 7 kings, 5 are fallen, one is, and one is to come. The wounded head is the one that shall be fatally wounded and restored to make all the world marvel.

7 I can't find any mention of an 8th head after searching through Daniel and Revelation. But if you mean the 8th King, he is the Beast that was and yet is not, and is of the 7.

8 This is the false prophet, the man of sin who speaks like a dragon for Satan, that old serpent, will give him his power.

9 The Beast causes the people to take the mark on their forehead or hands willingly. Those with the mark can buy and sell, but not those without it.

10 It is the idol of the Beast and the Devil, that dragon, he will give the Beast his power and his authority and will make the image of the Beast to speak and to blaspheme. The Beast shall place the idol in the place where it ought not to stand.

And this is where we see your story starts falling apart. You've identified the first 3 beasts of Daniel correctly, but then you jump ahead over 2,000 years after Greece completely ignoring over 2,000 years of Roman history. Then, you cannot concretely identify none of the heads of the first beast of Revelation. Then you cannot identify who is the second beast of Revelation, and you relate him to some mystical man, unaware that it symbolizes a specific kingdom just like all the other previous beasts do. Then you say the image of the beast is some idol everyone on earth will somehow worship, apparently even atheists who believe in no gods. And you also cannot identify the prostitute of Babylon, and why she is seated on the first beast of Revelation, and how she rules over all the kingdoms of the earth, and which city that has seven mountains would fulfill all these characteristics. And then some other nonsense that is all incoherent and all over the place and that makes no sense and is full of imagination. This is why I make people who refute the truth try to interpret these visions, so that they can see how absurd their own explanations are, and perhaps through that come to the actual logical truth. Here is my logical explanation of the visions of Daniel and Revelation http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2018/12/0...the-mark-of-the-beast-and-the-meaning-of-666/

 

[gaviriachristian]

Is the data available for the phases of the moon in 2026? It sounds like it would have to relate to one of those new moons, the dates of which are known, I suspect.

Does the Hebrew morning begin at dawn? The time of sunrise in Jerusalem would also be known, I assume.

Yes, but why seek data on lunar phases if we have the Jewish calendar that bases its months on the moon? Just use the Jewish calendar. Any first day of the month in the Jewish calendar will be a crescent moon. So the Messiah would only ever come on a 22nd day of any Jewish month of 30 days.

 

[Dan_473]

Yes, but why seek data on lunar phases if we have the Jewish calendar that bases its months on the moon? Just use the Jewish calendar. Any first day of the month in the Jewish calendar will be a crescent moon. So the Messiah would only ever come on a 22nd day of any Jewish month of 30 days.

Sure, use the Jewish calendar. Then it sounds like there are just two particular days in the Jewish calendar that Jesus can come on, yes?

Does the Hebrew evening begin at sunset? So midday would be sunrise? What time does that correspond to on the clocks most people use?

 

[gaviriachristian]

Sure, use the Jewish calendar. Then it sounds like there are just two particular days in the Jewish calendar that Jesus can come on, yes?

Does the Hebrew evening begin at sunset? So midday would be sunrise? What time does that correspond to on the clocks most people use?

It would be on the 22nd day of a month of 30 days. Not all the months of the Jewish calendar are 30 days. And yes, sunrise and sunset are points in time for evening and day. It can vary depending on where you are on the earth, but one could say around 6:00pm and 6:00am respectively.