John the baptist was filled with the Spirit inside his mother's womb.
what choice do you think he had?
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John the baptist was filled with the Spirit inside his mother's womb.
what choice do you think he had?
compulsion:
For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died!
(2 Corinthians 5:14)
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IFOLLOWHIM
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plz do not be antagonistic. This does not show His love,so it's a part of your "perservance".Our light is supposed to shine with His love in dark places!
Show me where in the bible, it says that those who do not persevere to the end go to hell.. You can't, cuz it's not in there.
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UnderGrace
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I like this little banter, makes me wonder even more about the two of you???
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IFOLLOWHIM
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you know what? Anybody can and most do take the word for point,some to argue,debate,twist,confuse,tear up,find fault,finger point,judge ect.ect ! Humble yourself and don't be " one" of those,plz!
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IFOLLOWHIM
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have you read about Samson? Judges 13-16?
he was a nazarite -- which in the law is a voluntary & temporary vow -- by the commandment of the LORD before he was even conceived in his mother's womb & for his entire life, without him ever having a choice in the matter. his mother was ordered by God to herself keep this voluntary vow while she carried him, and told that he would begin to deliver Israel: no option. just how it was to be, as ordained by God, who didn't ask anybodies permission.
i know you have been told by shiny clean people behind pulpits in nice looking clothes that God is too 'gentlemanly' to ever impose His will on a sovereign human being, perish the thought, and i know that feels very polite and sounds rather admirable. i am sure that you felt good about hearing it.
but what i am wondering is if you ever took that idea and compared it to scripture? have you ever thought about it and considered whether it was really true, or if it just sounds nice? if you have, i'd like to hear where you can see that in the Bible. this is a discussion thread - if you have some evidence or reasoning behind the popular statement you parroted, could you share it? maybe we could talk about it? maybe we could use this website for what this website's actual purpose is?
i'd like that, if we could.
thanks
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IFOLLOWHIM
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he never "FORCED"! He gave Jonah,Paul,John,any others a reason to do as He directs! Just as you would give instructions to a child,and when rebellion comes,there may be consequence s! You and everyone has free will,for if not why choose God? He wants us to choose to love and serve Him!
This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army — your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords.
(Ezekiel 38:3-4)
could you explain what makes this sound like "asking nicely" ? thanks!
Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess sounds rather COMPELLING to me......!
Show me where in the bible, it says that those who do not persevere to the end go to hell.. You can't, cuz it's not in there.
If you persevere until the end, you are saved. Do you know what happens to a person who dies and they are not saved?
[6] For whom the Lord loveth, he chastiseth; and he scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [7] Persevere under discipline. God dealeth with you as with his sons; for what son is there, whom the father doth not correct? [8] But if you be without chastisement, whereof all are made partakers, then are you bastards, and not sons. [9] Moreover we have had fathers of our flesh, for instructors, and we reverenced them: shall we not much more obey the Father of spirits, and live? [10] And they indeed for a few days, according to their own pleasure, instructed us: but he, for our profit, that we might receive his sanctification.
'men will seek death and not be able to find it' !
it's pretty clear Who is in control!
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IFOLLOWHIM
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i know you have been told by shiny clean people behind pulpits in nice looking clothes that God is too 'gentlemanly' to ever impose His will on a sovereign human being, perish the thought, and i know that feels very polite and sounds rather admirable. i am sure that you felt good about hearing it.
but what i am wondering is if you ever took that idea and compared it to scripture? have you ever thought about it and considered whether it was really true, or if it just sounds nice? if you have, i'd like to hear where you can see that in the Bible. this is a discussion thread - if you have some evidence or reasoning behind the popular statement you parroted, could you share it? maybe we could talk about it? maybe we could use this website for what this website's actual purpose is?
i'd like that, if we could.
thanks
are you this websites police? I do not congregate in any church,denomination or building,nor do I listen to espoused opinions of men. I study ,prayerfully with the Holy Spirit leadership in the word of God! So there you are in error for those" shiny,clean" people are sometimes worse than the wolves in the world!