Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[gaviriachristian]

and thats why i dont believe its a sin to lay with a woman while shes menstruating because its not repeated in the new testament. these are ritual purity commands. not moral commands

No it is not, because it relates to blood. Blood is of great importance to God, because the "soul is in the blood", and a man is not only forbidden from eating the blood of animals, which was a command that came even before Moses, but a man is also forbidden from laying with a woman while she is in her flow of blood. Again, these are matters of Torah that are explained very plainly in the Torah, but for someone that just casually reads the new testament and knows nothing of the Torah, he understands nothing and just classifies any command he does not know as irrelevant "ritual purity commands". Even the Torah tells us "you shall have righteous weights and quantities", which is also another command not mentioned in the new testament. This command forbids the possession of paper money and fiat currency, which exists all over the world today, and is therefore the fulfillment of the mark of the beast prophecy in Revelation. But of course, if you do not know the Torah, then you do not know what sin is, then you cannot properly discern what the mark of the beast is, which is why almost the entire world has taken the mark of the beast through ignorance.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Do you have a list of effective ordinances?

Yes.

 

[Dan_473]

Obedience to the Torah is one thing, circumcision of the flesh is another thing. Circumcision of the flesh is no longer required, one matter of the Torah, which does not imply that the entire Torah is now abolished, for that would be torahlessness. Understand.

So, in your view, then, have the brothers spoken of above received the holy Spirit?

 

[Marcelo]

Yes.

Can you share it with us?

 

[NayborBear]

It depends, if what is considered to be evil by man is also considered to be evil by God. A believer promulgating photos of nuns holding guns is certainly something that God would take offense by. But it is your choice what you choose to do with your own profile. You mentioned your own photo, so I gave you my opinion regarding it.

Careful there, my man.
Yer starting to sound like one of these:

 

[gaviriachristian]

So, in your view, then, have the brothers spoken of above received the holy Spirit?

Receiving the anointing is contingent upon obedience,

We are witnesses of these things, and so is the set-apart airflow, whom God has given to those who obey him.
Acts 5:32

Obedience to what? The commands of God written in the Torah.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Can you share it with us?

The commands that we must still obey are found throughout my website in different topics. However, I do have an excel spreadsheet I am still organizing showing which commands are still binding under the new covenant. It is very extensive, but well organized. If you shoot me an email I can send it to you once it's completed in a few days or few weeks. I am working on various projects simultaneously so not sure when exactly I will finish it.

 

[Marcelo]

The commands that we must still obey are found throughout my website in different topics. However, I do have an excel spreadsheet I am still organizing showing which commands are still binding under the new covenant. It is very extensive, but well organized. If you shoot me an email I can send it to you once it's completed in a few days or few weeks. I am working on various projects simultaneously so not sure when exactly I will finish it.

OK, I'll PM you my email address.

 

[Dino246]

Lawlessness is torahlessness. The "law" being spoken of is the "torah".

Which part of "not an English word" did you not understand?

You can make yourself believe whatever lie you want to believe, but it is not the truth. The Torah is still binding. Blessed are those who know and understand this and obey the Torah through belief in Yeshuah.

In other words, you don't have a response to clear Scripture. Repeating your mantra doesn't make it true.

 

[NayborBear]

The "works of the Torah" means circumcision of the flesh and weekly shabbath rest, which are no longer required to be observed under the new covenant, not setting aside the entire Torah. There is a difference between obeying the Torah through belief in Yeshuah, where "works of the Torah" such as those two examples are no longer necessary to be observed to receive the airflow of God, and completely discarding the entire Torah, which is torahlessness, which is worse than disbelief in Yeshuah, which is one reason why worse wrath is coming upon the Gentiles who claim to be believers than the Jews who disbelieve in Yeshuah but at the very least have the Torah.

I am "cognizant" of this "airflow of God", to which you stated. Although, I myself have not "referred" to it as such. Some may call it "the Spirit of Truth." Some may call it "the comforter." Some, like myself, refer to it as God's "Holy Breath of life." Not to be confused, nor called the "gift of the Holy Spirit." Because, it isn't! It's different!
What it is? Is "lateral movements" of whom this gentile refers to as "the Father", moving "laterally" from the Son, through the "gift of salvation", to and through, the "gift of the Holy spirit", to "eventually/hopefully" being "chosen" in "representing" God Himself through His "Holy Priesthood" Into the "Order of Melchizedek."

Isaiah 28
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

It's not the precept upon precept, precept upon precept, and line upon line, upon line, that "hangs one up." Although, it does too (regrettably). As much as the "here a little, there a little." That causes one to cease in further pursuits of "pressing on" to the High Calling of God.

 

[Dino246]

Receiving the anointing is contingent upon obedience,

We are witnesses of these things, and so is the set-apart airflow, whom God has given to those who obey him.
Acts 5:32

Obedience to what? The commands of God written in the Torah.

Nobody in Scripture received the Holy Spirit by obedience to the Law. Peter spoke the words you quoted to the Council; the obedience to which he called them was to believe in the One God had sent. Given the immediate context, Peter cannot possibly mean torah obedience.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Nobody in Scripture received the Holy Spirit by obedience to the Law. Peter spoke the words you quoted to the Council; the obedience to which he called them was to believe in the One God had sent. Given the immediate context, Peter cannot possibly mean torah obedience.

The prophets of old received the set-apart airflow by obedience to the Torah. And under the new covenant the set-apart airflow is given by obedience to the Torah through belief in Yeshuah. You deceive yourselves if you think disobedience to the Torah will in any way grant the anointing.

 

[Dino246]

The prophets of old received the set-apart airflow by obedience to the Torah. And under the new covenant the set-apart airflow is given by obedience to the Torah through belief in Yeshuah.

Name three "prophets of old" who match your description, and provide CLEAR evidence from Scripture that they received the Holy Spirit BECAUSE OF obedience to the torah.

Good luck.

You deceive yourselves if you think disobedience to the Torah will in any way grant the anointing.

Fallacy: straw man. You deceive yourself if you think that fallacies provide support for your position.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Name three "prophets of old" who match your description, and provide CLEAR evidence from Scripture that they received the Holy Spirit BECAUSE OF obedience to the torah.

Good luck.


Fallacy: straw man. You deceive yourself if you think that fallacies provide support for your position.

Abraham had the anointing, which is why he was called a "prophet" by God, because he believed and obeyed the Torah, which existed even before it was given in written form to Moses.

Now then, return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, so that he will pray for you, and you shall live. But if you do not return her, know that you shall surely die, you and all who are yours.”
Genesis 20:7

When Abram was ninety-nine years old Yehovah appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be perfect, that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly.”
Genesis 17:1-2

I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my Torah.
Genesis 26:4-5

Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that belief was active along with his works, and belief was completed by his works
James 2:21-22

If he had not obeyed the commands of God no covenant would've been established with Abraham. His righteousness was imputed to him predicated both on belief and also obedience. Obedience to what? The oral Torah that existed then. And that is why we must not only believe, but also obey the Torah. You deceive yourselves thinking you do not need to obey. Foolish.

 

[Melach]

The commands that we must still obey are found throughout my website in different topics. However, I do have an excel spreadsheet I am still organizing showing which commands are still binding under the new covenant. It is very extensive, but well organized. If you shoot me an email I can send it to you once it's completed in a few days or few weeks. I am working on various projects simultaneously so not sure when exactly I will finish it.

what website?

 

[gaviriachristian]

what website?

http://www.wisdomofgod.us

 

[Dan_473]

Receiving the anointing is contingent upon obedience,

We are witnesses of these things, and so is the set-apart airflow, whom God has given to those who obey him.
Acts 5:32

Obedience to what? The commands of God written in the Torah.

In your view, were the brothers spoken of above obedient to the commands of God written in the Torah?

 

[Hevosmies]

http://www.wisdomofgod.us

Mamma mia! Another gentile roleplaying to be a jew. FAKE JEWS are rampant today. Whether it is the black hebrew israelites, the british israelites, or the many "torah observant"(not really, no animal sacrifices, no holy convocations at Jerusalem) groups that are a common pest today.

Go to the closest orthodox synagogue and strike a conversation with em in hebrew(if you can speak hebrew), tell them what you teach and they'll laugh you out the congregation. After you've embarrased yourself there, I suggest you move on up to a MESSIANIC Jewish synagogue, where they'll do the same, since most Messianic Jews are REAL JEWS, who just converted to Christianity, but in doctrine they are practically identical to evangelicals and would probably call you out on the NUMEROUS false teachings on the website.

It says on your website that ONLY Abraham's descendants can inherit the Kingdom of God. WELL two problems: Bible CLEARLY teaches that the foreigners among Israel also have an inheritance, if we were to apply this to the millennium. The Bible also CLEARLY teaches all who are in Christ are Abraham's seed. So by definition, ANYONE, Jew, Greek, dont matter one bit!

Yup this is one of my trigger topics. Why cant we just be regular CHRISTIANS instead of these endless geneaologies.

 

[Dino246]

Abraham had the anointing, which is why he was called a "prophet" by God, because he believed and obeyed the Torah, which existed even before it was given in written form to Moses.

Now then, return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, so that he will pray for you, and you shall live. But if you do not return her, know that you shall surely die, you and all who are yours.”
Genesis 20:7

When Abram was ninety-nine years old Yehovah appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be perfect, that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly.”
Genesis 17:1-2

I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my Torah.
Genesis 26:4-5

Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that belief was active along with his works, and belief was completed by his works
James 2:21-22

If he had not obeyed the commands of God no covenant would've been established with Abraham. His righteousness was imputed to him predicated both on belief and also obedience. Obedience to what? The oral Torah that existed then. And that is why we must not only believe, but also obey the Torah. You deceive yourselves thinking you do not need to obey. Foolish.

None of this suggests that Abraham had the Holy Spirit, nor that he received the Holy Spirit because of his obedience to the law.

Try again.

 

[gaviriachristian]

Mamma mia! Another gentile roleplaying to be a jew. FAKE JEWS are rampant today. Whether it is the black hebrew israelites, the british israelites, or the many "torah observant"(not really, no animal sacrifices, no holy convocations at Jerusalem) groups that are a common pest today.

Go to the closest orthodox synagogue and strike a conversation with em in hebrew(if you can speak hebrew), tell them what you teach and they'll laugh you out the congregation. After you've embarrased yourself there, I suggest you move on up to a MESSIANIC Jewish synagogue, where they'll do the same, since most Messianic Jews are REAL JEWS, who just converted to Christianity, but in doctrine they are practically identical to evangelicals and would probably call you out on the NUMEROUS false teachings on the website.

It says on your website that ONLY Abraham's descendants can inherit the Kingdom of God. WELL two problems: Bible CLEARLY teaches that the foreigners among Israel also have an inheritance, if we were to apply this to the millennium. The Bible also CLEARLY teaches all who are in Christ are Abraham's seed. So by definition, ANYONE, Jew, Greek, dont matter one bit!

Yup this is one of my trigger topics. Why cant we just be regular CHRISTIANS instead of these endless geneaologies.

I do not seek Jewry, as of being a "jew" is cool, I seek obedience. The Messiah taught obedience to the Torah, and that is why I obey the Torah. If I cared about what Jews thought about me, I would gladly join one of their synagogues. If I cared what Messianic Jews thought about me, I would join one of their assemblies. What I care about is the truth and what God wants. I am willing to give up everything for the sake of that, and I have. I am willing to suffer and die for it, and God willing, I will. So while you sit there ridiculing me, which is contrary to what a believer should be doing to another believer who is actually obeying the Torah, you're actually dismissing a man who speaks the truth. What truth do I speak? That we must obey the Torah. That we must believe in Yeshuah. That we must be rich in good works by doing good works for the poor. The we must lessen ourselves to necessities. That we must walk perfectly before God. That paper money and fiat currency is the true mark of the beast, and that we must exit the financial system in order to remove the mark of the beast. And much more profound knowledge and understanding that is true, that Jews nor Messianic Jews possess. And finally, yes, only the seed of Abraham will rule with the Messiah for 1,000 years, which is why the 144,000 sealed are only numbered among the sons of Israel. Should I explain in depth why? Perhaps not. I've already wasting enough pearls for today.