Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Who gave them the law?
God gave them the Law (the law of Moses), but after Jesus' ascension He gave us a new law.
Can a gift be kept, can it be rejected, trampled on, thrown away?
Do you think the word "gift" here refers to the Law? I think the word "gift" here means blessings.
Can you or anyone revoke or nullify God's words?
No, nobody can do that; only God can change His own laws.
The message here is: Don't cling to the world; cling to God's (Jesus') word.
God is God and He can amend His word. Here's an example:
Jesus replaced the "an eye for an eye" rule with the "turn the other cheek" rule.
To reject a law is one thing; to stop obeying an obsolete law, and embracing a new one, is another.
What law is James talking about? Is he clearly stating that we have to keep the law of Moses?
Google the following words: The law in James - M. J. Evans.
You'll see that this issue is very debatable.
All these things were written by the apostle who told us to stop keeping the law of Moses.
Do you believe that he who keeps the law of Moses to the end will be saved? Do you believe salvation can be obtained by keeping the law?
You're right!
Acts 21:17-20 When we arrived at Jerusalem, the brothers received us warmly. The next day Paul and the rest of us went to see James, and all the elders were present. Paul greeted them and reported in detail what God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. When they heard this, they praised God. Then they said to Paul: "You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law.
I'm trying my best not to offend you or anyone here but...being a Christian, what good things do you have or possess now which did not come from God who is the Creator of all things and the Great Provider.
The law is good, holy and spiritual. (Romans 7:12-14)
Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers. Every GOOD and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. James 1:17
... For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? 1 Corinthians 4:1-7
“Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel.
Malachi 4:4
the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the RECEIVING OF THE LAW, the temple worship and the promises. Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen. Romans 9:4-5
First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God. Romans 3:1-2
Is the law God's very own words which He gave for all Israel as the one LAWGIVER and JUDGE? If it is His words, are they spirit?
The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. John 6:63
It is written that all scripture is God-breathed, is the law a part of the scriptures?
I believe that the law is part of the scriptures, God's own words which are spirit and life(John 6;63), just as the body without the spirit is DEAD.(James 2:14-26)
I consider the Scripture together with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior as the greatest gift I have received from God and again, the law is part of the Scriptures and it is good, holy and spiritual.
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”
Matthew 19:17-19
...For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Romans 8:1-17
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Hebrews 6:4-6
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. Matthew 24:35
The law is God's words in the scriptures and it will never pass away. It may not be a gift but only for those who have not truly received and accepted it. I'm sure you did accept it Sis.
The word/s of the Master is a law to His servants, written on/in their hearts.
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.
GOD IS good and His LOVE endures forever. Amen.
I agree with everything your wrote. But here is the problem I have with "ascribing" something to anything that God has not specifically stated Himself. Not one of your verses say "God gifted us the law, look at the law as a gift, these laws are a gift to you". It is only for that very fact, that I can not "accept" it as Gods Truth, even though I myself do feel like they are a gift. But when I even think to do that, I think right back on Cain and Able. Cain wanted to please God Cains way. Able pleased God by doing it Gods Way. (Yes, I know there is a ton more than that but now is not the time).
Without the laws, I would have no clue what is truly Holy to God. (well, maybe a clue). I am not trying to upset you but I check out everything I am told in the Word. If I find it GREAT, if I don't, I don't accept it. I just can't find it, I am sorry. And don't think I can't see and feel your love of the Word. I do. We do not have to totally agree on everything (though I wish you would
). Did we just decide to drop the 1st Covenant vs the 2nd Covenant, which is in effect? I think we did.
Stay in the Word. God graces us as He will. What will be revealed next we never know. I do know that once God has come and set it straight, there are no conflicts to be found anywhere in the Word on that subject. I have definitely had my 180s, a few 90s to. But never once on anything the Spirit has given me have I ever changed again. God Bless my brother, keep up the God work.
We are still required to keep the Torah. Read this bible study http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2019/02/14/the-torah-has-not-been-abolished/
Welcome to CC.
Perhaps you haven't read Acts 15 or Paul's letter to the Galatians; we gentiles are NOT under the Law. There is no temple, no Levites, and no priests. It is absolutely impossible to "keep the Torah" today.
Paul and James both make it clear: if you are going to attempt to keep the Law, you must keep ALL of it, or you fail completely. It is not a buffet from which you choose.
A change in the priesthood brought a change in the Torah, not an abolishment of the Torah. The Torah is still binding, hence the reason the Messiah said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah", and also why Paul said, "do we therefore nullify the Torah with this belief? Not at all, we uphold the Torah". You cannot abolish a Torah that defines all that is sin, at least while sin still exists, which it still does. You shall not murder is as binding today as it was 3,000 years ago. A man shall not dress as a woman is as binding as it was 3,000 years ago. Understand.
http://www.wisdomofgod.us/2019/02/14/the-torah-has-not-been-abolished/
You're treating Torah as a buffet. Torah is one law; the sacrifices, the offerings, the tithe, the stoning, the priesthood, ALL of it. All of it is old covenant made with ISRAEL, not with the gentiles. We are in the NEW covenant in Christ's blood.