Not By Works

[Pisteuo]

John 1:12 - But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name.

Also , at this ending phase of the salvation journey you are highlighting, it would be harder for one like I've described to get out of God will, than it would be to stay in it.

 

[UnderGrace]

A half measure avails nothing. It's not about perfection, it's about a genuine surrendered life. We know and God knows if we are truly surrendering to Him.

Christ perfects the surrendered life a molds it into whatever He wants.

That is why pisteuo is three specific things.
1) a Continually surrendered life.
2) based upon the belief that He will accept the surrendered life.
3) sustained ( maintained) by a life inspired by such surrender. Daily decisions that support the fact that our lives are not ours anymore, but His now.

This is what pisteuo is, what true saving Faith is. The English language doesn't have a word to translate all three aspects of pisteuo. Belief is only one third of pisteuo. Taken on it's own is error.

Sad, and you sidestepped my question.

No matter how nicely you try to wrap it up, underneath it is the same old **&^%$#@$$$, and being raised a lady I withhold the expletive!!!

and also this...





I really cannot waste more time my patience has run out.

 

[Pisteuo]

Amen.

We (well you more than me ) just keep coming with the God's word and hopefully eyes can be opened!!

First rule of interpreting scripture.
Don't take a mountain of scripture we are sure of, and try to knock it down with one uncertain scripture.

I've presented one heck of a mountain of evidence that is true! Any talk of scripture from anyone who admittly has not begun a correct life of pisteuo, is at best uncertain.

 

[gb9]

A half measure avails nothing. It's not about perfection, it's about a genuine surrendered life. We know and God knows if we are truly surrendering to Him.

Christ perfects the surrendered life a molds it into whatever He wants.

That is why pisteuo is three specific things.
1) a Continually surrendered life.
2) based upon the belief that He will accept the surrendered life.
3) sustained ( maintained) by a life inspired by such surrender. Daily decisions that support the fact that our lives are not ours anymore, but His now.

This is what pisteuo is, what true saving Faith is. The English language doesn't have a word to translate all three aspects of pisteuo. Belief is only one third of pisteuo. Taken on it's own is error.

The English language should have had the words faithe,faither, and faithing for the translators.

then, why was the greek word for surrender not used , if " believe " really means " surrender"?

this is #4 I have addressed this very obvious issue, and you have not addressed it.

you have a answer for everything else, why not this?/

 

[UnderGrace]

First rule of interpreting scripture.
Don't take a mountain of scripture we are sure of, and try to knock it down with one uncertain scripture.

I've presented one heck of a mountain of evidence that is true! Any talk of scripture from anyone who admittly has not begun a correct life of pisteuo, is at best uncertain.

Anyone who teaches salvation is earned is a false teacher in my book and according to scripture.

 

[Pisteuo]

Sad, and you sidestepped my question.

No matter how nicely you try to wrap it up, underneath it is the same old **&^%$#@$$$, and being raised a lady I withhold the expletive!!!

and also this...

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I really cannot waste more time my patience has run out.

You should really think about staying teachable, it's very important in the drawing of the Father phase of the salvation journey.

 

[UnderGrace]

You should really think about staying teachable, it's very important in the drawing of the Father phase of the salvation journey.

I am saved and salvation is not a journey, it is a spiritual event, like when you go to court and are declared innocent, done, finito!!

 

[Pisteuo]

then, why was the greek word for surrender not used , if " believe " really means " surrender"?

this is #4 I have addressed this very obvious issue, and you have not addressed it.

you have a answer for everything else, why not this?/

Believe doesn't mean anything. The Greek doesn't even have a word for believe in their language.

Pisteuo is three parts that communicate one happening.

Surrender is one of those parts. The Strong's uses the words commitment, to commit unto, be committed to, for pisteuo. I stand on the word surrender, because I have done it and know what happens.

So yes , surrender with out looking it up is no doubt another Greek word, but like i stated, pisteuo is only apart of pisteuo.

Does this help.?

 

[Pisteuo]

I am saved and salvation is not a journey, it is a spiritual event, like when you go to court and are declared innocent, done, finito!!

He's awaiting a response from you UG!

 

[Pisteuo]

Anyone who teaches salvation is earned is a false teacher in my book and according to scripture.

Not a teacher have made that clear. Only giving a warning, well with a little pushing. Your worth it!

 

[UnderGrace]

Believe doesn't mean anything. The Greek doesn't even have a word for believe in their language.

Pisteuo is three parts that communicate one happening.

Surrender is one of those parts. The Strong's uses the words commitment, to commit unto, be committed to, for pisteuo. I stand on the word surrender, because I have done it and know what happens.

So yes , surrender with out looking it up is no doubt another Greek word, but like i stated, pisteuo is only apart of pisteuo.

Does this help.?

What happens?

 

[Pisteuo]

What happens?

You want to know the end of the story? That is something you'll have to find out yourself. I choose my words very carefully, I've given you the most precious things I have in the last few days. Everything is there to begin correctly.

 

[UnderGrace]

You want to know the end of the story? That is something you'll have to find out yourself. I choose my words very carefully, I've given you the most precious things I have in the last few days. Everything is there to begin correctly.

What happens if the secret gets out?

 

[Pisteuo]

Just remember, a true surrender has no expectation of getting anything in return.

 

[Pisteuo]

What happens if the secret gets out?

What secret?

 

[UnderGrace]

What secret?

The secret of the universe that you talk about?

 

[calibob]

Wrong, their faith in Jesus was as their Saviour

Works has nothing to do with salvation. If we are called to be evangelist, then evangelize. If we are called to support our families and pay taxes, do it. If we are falsely imprisoned. The pray for our Accusers. If we can't do that, then pray for God's help through it all. The only work required if is faith and prayer, but mostly faith if we think thats work. (Some do)

 

[Pisteuo]

The secret of the universe that you talk about?

What I call the secret of the universe, is how to be connected to Christ, our creator! I've been laying it out step by step for the last what 4 days.

 

[gb9]

Believe doesn't mean anything. The Greek doesn't even have a word for believe in their language.

Pisteuo is three parts that communicate one happening.

Surrender is one of those parts. The Strong's uses the words commitment, to commit unto, be committed to, for pisteuo. I stand on the word surrender, because I have done it and know what happens.

So yes , surrender with out looking it up is no doubt another Greek word, but like i stated, pisteuo is only apart of pisteuo.

Does this help.?

no, nor does it make any sense.

 

[Pisteuo]

no, nor does it make any sense.

Not surprising, pisteuo has been lost to us for over 500 years.