Galatian Conundrums

[PS]

Do you now also go around telling your unbelieving friends that they murdered Jesus, the savior of mankind?

How did they respond to you?

Stop talking daft.

 

[Guojing]

Stop talking daft.

But you insisted that Peter is preaching the same gospel of grace as Paul did, correct?

 

[PS]

But you insisted that Peter is preaching the same gospel of grace as Paul did?

Correct. There is only one message. Anyone who tries to make out otherwise is simply talking nonsense.

 

[Guojing]

Correct. There is only one message. Anyone who tries to make out otherwise is simply talking nonsense.

So if you agree that Peter accused the Jews of murdering Jesus, at more than one occasion during Acts, and you believe its the same message, why are you not accusing unbelievers of doing the same now?

What has changed?

 

[PS]

So if you agree that Peter accused the Jews of murdering Jesus, at more than one occasion during Acts, and you believe its the same message, why are you not accusing unbelievers of doing the same now?

What has changed?

I am sure people today would kill Jesus if He was here in the flesh.

There are lots of people killed today in the name of their god.

Point being, Jesus is still the saviour. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

 

[Guojing]

I am sure people today would kill Jesus if He was here in the flesh.

There are lots of people killed today in the name of their god.

Point being, Jesus is still the saviour. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

It is clear to me you don't understand the gospel of grace that Paul preaches, the contents of which he called "my gospel" three times in his epistles.

Hint: 2 Cor 5:20-21 would be a good start.

 

[PS]

It is clear to me you don't understand the gospel of grace that Paul preaches, the contents of which he called "my gospel" three times in his epistles.

Hint: 2 Cor 5:20-21 would be a good start.

Paul is telling us that Jesus Saves.

What on earth is the matter with you!

 

[Guojing]

Paul is telling us that Jesus Saves.

What on earth is the matter with you!

How? By believing he is the Son of God?

 

[PS]

How? By believing he is the Son of God?

By paying the penalty for our sins, by His death on the cross, so that we might have eternal life.

 

[Guojing]

By paying the penalty for our sins, by His death on the cross, so that we might have eternal life.

At least you understand the true gospel of grace, well done.

Now you see the statement "The gospel is Jesus saves", hardly explains anything?

The Gospel of John tells us that believing in Jesus as the Son of God is enough to give us life. (John 20:31). You aware of that?

 

[PS]

At least you understand the true gospel of grace, well done.

Now you see the statement "The gospel is Jesus saves", hardly explains anything?

The Gospel of John tells us that believing in Jesus as the Son of God is enough to give us life. (John 20:31). You aware of that?

Jesus saves.

 

[Grandpa]

So if you agree that Peter accused the Jews of murdering Jesus, at more than one occasion during Acts, and you believe its the same message, why are you not accusing unbelievers of doing the same now?

What has changed?

Peter was accusing the ACTUAL people responsible for the Crucifixion of Jesus.

The people who were still practicing Judaism. About 2-3 months after the Lords Crucifixion.


Peter tells them, to their faces, that they missed what the Prophets said. Just like you have missed what the Prophets said. Peter tells Jews who are practicing Judaism that there is only one Way to Salvation and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ.

I'm not reading anything into this. This is just what scripture states.

 

[Grandpa]

My post had to do with, "how much did they 'grasp' BEFORE His 'death/burial/resurrection'?"

How much did anyone grasp before Pentecost?

How much does anyone grasp before the Lord Jesus opens their eyes?

And then after He opens their eyes, how much is hidden?

 

[Absolutely]

You are reading what is not there because of your preconceived beliefs

Peter accused the Jews of murdering Jesus and hence they must repent of that act

That is a Long way from preaching that Jesus died for their sins and rose again for their justification

I already showed you where paul did the same.
...and preached the kingdom.

Your position is poorly thought out.

How ironic you say someone is preconcieved influenced

 

[Guojing]

I already showed you where paul did the same.
...and preached the kingdom.

Your position is poorly thought out.

How ironic you say someone is preconcieved influenced

The difference is I have already explained You are assuming everything about the term kingdom mean the same thing, which is incorrect

You are just ignoring my explanation and keep harping on your objection

 

[Guojing]

Peter was accusing the ACTUAL people responsible for the Crucifixion of Jesus.

The people who were still practicing Judaism. About 2-3 months after the Lords Crucifixion.


Peter tells them, to their faces, that they missed what the Prophets said. Just like you have missed what the Prophets said. Peter tells Jews who are practicing Judaism that there is only one Way to Salvation and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ.

I'm not reading anything into this. This is just what scripture states.

Yep the scripture say peter told them to believe in Jesus as the Son of God and their promised messiah and they will be saved

In the meantime all of them are still expected to circumcise their sons and keep the law of Moses acts 10:14

If you are also preaching this salvation message to your unsaved friends, so be it.

 

[PS]

Yep the scripture say peter told them to believe in Jesus as the Son of God and their promised messiah and they will be saved

In the meantime all of them are still expected to circumcise their sons and keep the law of Moses acts 10:14

If you are also preaching this salvation message to your unsaved friends, so be it.

Peters vision in Acts 10 is a good example of God working with the Jews. Peter was hungry and while he was meditating on the Lord, he saw a vision of all manner of animals. A voice from heaven said, "Rise Peter, kill and eat," to which Peter replied, "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common and unclean. " This was done three times. The answer came back saying, "What God hath cleansed, make not thou common."

There are at least three lessons to be learnt from this, whoever says "not so" should never say "not so Lord" and whoever says "Lord, should never say "not so."

Another lesson God taught Peter that day, is that the law of Moses was ended.

 

[Guojing]

Peters vision in Acts 10 is a good example of God working with the Jews. Peter was hungry and while he was meditating on the Lord, he saw a vision of all manner of animals. A voice from heaven said, "Rise Peter, kill and eat," to which Peter replied, "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common and unclean. " This was done three times. The answer came back saying, "What God hath cleansed, make not thou common."

There are at least three lessons to be learnt from this, whoever says "not so" should never say "not so Lord" and whoever says "Lord, should never say "not so."

Another lesson God taught Peter that day, is that the law of Moses was ended.

So you do agree, at least, that in Acts 3, Peter still preached obedience to the Law. The ascended Christ said nothing to him about the ending of the Law of Moses.

 

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So you do agree, at least, that in Acts 3, Peter still preached obedience to the Law. The ascended Christ said nothing to him about the ending of the Law of Moses.

Where is Peter preaching the law in Acts 3?

 

[PS]

So you do agree, at least, that in Acts 3, Peter still preached obedience to the Law. The ascended Christ said nothing to him about the ending of the Law of Moses.

The law forbids the eating of certain animals. Peter was told differently.