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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
Responding and conversing with you is difficult as it is....

However, that signature line makes me feel like I am disrespecting my friend @dcontroversal so until it is changed no conversation, because it comes across like a mocking signature... and I did not like it when you did the same with @eternally-gratefull
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Why? I agree with DCs quote. It’s spot on!
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Hi Mac , just a question...
Without faith , no one can please God...

Gods grace falls on everyone ( Believers and unbelievers )
but those with faith ( believers ) are the ones who are saved...
...xox...
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Winner right here....Rose and her simple wisdom speaks loud and clear.....the rain falls on the just as well as the unjust!
 
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Macabeus

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dcontroversal said:
Winner right here....Rose and her simple wisdom speaks loud and clear.....the rain falls on the just as well as the unjust!
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So DC. How much dunamis and energia did your faith add to Gods work of regeneration? 24 or 25 percent?
 
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Macabeus

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Grandpa said:
I knew I should have gone a little lower.

Like on the Price is Right.

Maybe 14 or 15%??
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How about 0. If you know anything about regeneration, 0 is the right answer

The saving power/dunamis/energia is not in the faith, but in the one whom the faith is placed in. 👍👍👍👍

Hmmmmmmm....

If anyone contradicts this....😂😂😂
 
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Macabeus said:
I liked DCs quote so much, I wanted to make sure everyone saw it. Kudos DC
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I do not believe you for one nano second
Please stop being so patronizing ...
Literally you make me want to bang my head on the table and if wasn't dark out I would go for a run because I am sure my blood pressure is through the roof.

I have an idea.... there..... is a thread you started I am sure it could use some attention.
 
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Macabeus

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Macabeus said:
How about 0. If you know anything about regeneration, 0 is the right answer

The saving power/dunamis/energia is not in the faith, but in the one whom the faith is placed in. 👍👍👍👍

Hmmmmmmm....

If anyone contradicts this....😂😂😂
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It is idolatry to trust your faith instead of the one we are called to put our faith in. Not saying anyone is doing this, just throwing it out there
 
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Grandpa

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Macabeus said:
How about 0. If you know anything about regeneration, 0 is the right answer

The saving power/dunamis/energia is not in the faith, but in the one whom the faith is placed in. 👍👍👍👍

Hmmmmmmm....

If anyone contradicts this....😂😂😂
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So you are saying I didn't do anything?

None of my faith or understanding or strength caused God to save me?
 
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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
I do not believe you for one nano second
Please stop being so patronizing ...
Literally you make me want to bang my head on the table and if wasn't dark out I would go for a run because I am sure my blood pressure is through the roof.

I have an idea.... there..... is a thread you started I am sure it could use some attention.
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Why would I be lying. What DC said was what I had said a few times. What’s so amazing about that?
 
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Macabeus

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Grandpa said:
So you are saying I didn't do anything?

None of my faith or understanding or strength caused God to save me?
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Correct. If you caused God to save you, you initiated your own salvation

But the Bible says Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. And God began the good work in you and He will complete it
 
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Macabeus said:
Correct. If you caused God to save you, you initiated your own salvation

But the Bible says Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. And God began the good work in you and He will complete it
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So is everyone saved then?

Or just the ones who know the Lord Jesus Christ and call on His Name?
 
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dcontroversal said:
From FAITH TO FAITH IT IS WRITTEN..THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.....

hmmmmmm !
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dcontroversal said:
From FAITH TO FAITH IT IS WRITTEN..THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.....

hmmmmmm !
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Does not change the fact that it was God who quickened you/made you alive, does it. Ephesians 2:1-7

The just shall live by faith because God’s grace freely bestowed everything. We don’t bring anything that was not first given to us by God
 
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