Not By Works

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John 13:35, “By this shall all know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Mat 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."
 
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dcontroversal said:
Wow.....some of the blather that gets peddled.......encapsulated within being saved by faith alone is being justified, sanctified positionally and sealed.....I just need to learn to keep him on ignore.......I have never in my life seen one need to split hairs so fine that even an electron microscope would not be able to pick them up!
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If you exclude regeneration from your soteriology, yeah the difference becomes small but no regeneration, no salvation

And your faith does not regenerate you. That is a work of God and God alone

Regeneration is spiritual life out of spiritual death. No ammount of Faith on your part can accomplish that. You might as well ask someone to walk to the moon. ( which would be easier)
 
dcontroversal said:
Wow.....some of the blather that gets peddled.......encapsulated within being saved by faith alone is being justified, sanctified positionally and sealed.....I just need to learn to keep him on ignore.......I have never in my life seen one need to split hairs so fine that even an electron microscope would not be able to pick them up!
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That blather always points to a fake gospel that shuts out the kingdom of heaven against others. Precisely what Jesus argued about with you know who.
 
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Lightskin said:
That blather always points to a fake gospel that shuts out the kingdom of heaven against others. Precisely what Jesus argued about with you know who.
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Yeah, regeneration is a fake gospel. 😂

Saying a stranger is sexually frustrated. Points to what?
 
Lightskin said:
That blather always points to a fake gospel that shuts out the kingdom of heaven against others. Precisely what Jesus argued about with you know who.
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Saying that regeneration is a work that only God can perform is not a fake gospel. If you think it is, you need to open your bible

And ditto if you think that faith alone saves us, unless by faith you mean the faithfulness of God

Maybe some here are pelagians
 
John 15:5-14, " 5 I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. 7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples. 9 As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love. 10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love. 11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.
 
Mat 7:24-27, “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”
 
dcontroversal said:
You supplied nothing pal..get that through your head! Just another false accusation and skewed view is all!!
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Listen Buddy, my Bible says saved by grace through faith, not saved by faith alone. You even said saved before God laid down the earth. Were you believing when He did that, or are you contradicting yourself now?
 
FollowtheShepherd said:
Mat 7:24-27, “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”
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Good description of a regenerate person
 
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