Not By Works

[Macabeus]

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Just because I was discipled by Dr. John MacArthur, does not mean I agree with everything he teaches.

Matthew 16:18 (Young's Literal Translation)
18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

I came to the conclusion ASSEMBLY was the correct Translation after reading this definition in the
NASB Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.




When the bible was first translated into ENGLISH, the SUBSTITUTION of the word CHURCH had already been Made.
HOWEVER, they did not Put it in ITALICS.

It confuses to people to think the believing JEWS that believed GOD would provide a Messiah, that they are a LOWER CLASS of Human Spiritual Beings. That is a form of anti-Semitism. It forces people to NOT consider Jewish believers are PART OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST, and in doing so, you will make GOD A LIAR:

Isaiah 54:5 (HCSB)
5 Indeed, your husband is your Maker— His name is Yahweh of Hosts— and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; He is called the God of all the earth.

Isaiah 62:5 (HCSB)
5 For as a young man marries a young woman, so your sons will marry you; and as a groom rejoices over ⌊his⌋ bride, so your God will rejoice over you.


Believing in Israel during the O.T. had the SAME KIND OF FAITH WE DO.

O.T. Saints were those who believed GOD WOULD SEND A MESSIAH TO PAY FOR THEIR SINS.

N.T. Saints are those who believe GOD DID SEND A MESSIAH TO PAY FOR OUR SINS.

That is the FAITH OF ABRAHAM.

His First ASSEMBLY or FOLD was the ISRAELITES, who BELIEVED IN HIM in their hearts.
His Second ASSEMBLY or FOLD is the Church, who BELIEVED IN HIM in their hearts.

They are CO-EQUALLY Part of the Bride of Christ as WE ARE.

Your other question in both Luke 16:23 and in Matthew 16:18:
Transliterated Word: hadês
New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.

Fourthly, Acts 2:31 when the Bible says Jesus went to Hades, it does not mean grave, because while Jesus' body was in the grave, Jesus' soul/life was in paradise.

It confuses to people to think the believing JEWS that believed GOD would provide a Messiah, that they are a LOWER CLASS of Human Spiritual Beings. That is a form of anti-Semitism. It forces people to NOT consider Jewish believers are PART OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST, and in doing so, you will make GOD A LIAR:

If you disagree with me, well. But leave the anti-semite accusations out. If you knew my screen name and who it is in reference to, you wouldn't make such ridiculous accusations as calling me anti-semite.

 

[Macabeus]

@VCO- It confuses to people to think the believing JEWS that believed GOD would provide a Messiah, that they are a LOWER CLASS of Human Spiritual Beings. That is a form of anti-Semitism...

 

[KJV1611]

Just say hell, and the hearer will understand you as talking about Gehenna, which carries by far the most weight.

But I wouldn’t tell them Jesus went to hell, because they’ll think you mean Jesus went to Gehenna, and that might be more distracting than productive

I don’t know Mac I think those words do nothing but create confusion to Christians.

 

[blue_ladybug]

 

[KJV1611]

Matthew 16:18 (Young's Literal Translation)
18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

I came to the conclusion ASSEMBLY was the correct Translation after reading this definition in the
NASB Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.

Assembly is another word that does nothing but create confusion VCO. An assembly is nothing more than a gathering of people. Christ is building a church, an assembly of BELIEVERS.

By using the word ASSEMBLY in Acts 7:38 the fact that THE CHURCH EXISTED amongst THE ASSEMBLY in the wilderness is COMPLETELY HIDDEN.

Probably 90% (probably more) of Christianity thinks that the church STARTED when Christ came, but Acts 7 clearly says in such plain and simple straight forward language that Christ was in the CHURCH in the wilderness.

Act_7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Using WRONG terminology like this leads to heretical views of scripture.

 

[KJV1611]

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Good morning to you to blue.

 

[Macabeus]

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Just because I was discipled by Dr. John MacArthur, does not mean I agree with everything he teaches.

Matthew 16:18 (Young's Literal Translation)
18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

I came to the conclusion ASSEMBLY was the correct Translation after reading this definition in the
NASB Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.




When the bible was first translated into ENGLISH, the SUBSTITUTION of the word CHURCH had already been Made.
HOWEVER, they did not Put it in ITALICS.

It confuses to people to think the believing JEWS that believed GOD would provide a Messiah, that they are a LOWER CLASS of Human Spiritual Beings. That is a form of anti-Semitism. It forces people to NOT consider Jewish believers are PART OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST, and in doing so, you will make GOD A LIAR:

Isaiah 54:5 (HCSB)
5 Indeed, your husband is your Maker— His name is Yahweh of Hosts— and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; He is called the God of all the earth.

Isaiah 62:5 (HCSB)
5 For as a young man marries a young woman, so your sons will marry you; and as a groom rejoices over ⌊his⌋ bride, so your God will rejoice over you.


Believing in Israel during the O.T. had the SAME KIND OF FAITH WE DO.

O.T. Saints were those who believed GOD WOULD SEND A MESSIAH TO PAY FOR THEIR SINS.

N.T. Saints are those who believe GOD DID SEND A MESSIAH TO PAY FOR OUR SINS.

That is the FAITH OF ABRAHAM.

His First ASSEMBLY or FOLD was the ISRAELITES, who BELIEVED IN HIM in their hearts.
His Second ASSEMBLY or FOLD is the Church, who BELIEVED IN HIM in their hearts.

They are CO-EQUALLY Part of the Bride of Christ as WE ARE.

Your other question in both Luke 16:23 and in Matthew 16:18:
Transliterated Word: hadês
New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.

So the gates of the GRAVE will not prevail against the church? Is that what Jesus meant when He used Hades there?

 

[Macabeus]

Assembly is another word that does nothing but create confusion VCO. An assembly is nothing more than a gathering of people. Christ is building a church, an assembly of BELIEVERS.

By using the word ASSEMBLY in Acts 7:38 the fact that THE CHURCH EXISTED amongst THE ASSEMBLY in the wilderness is COMPLETELY HIDDEN.

Probably 90% (probably more) of Christianity thinks that the church STARTED when Christ came, but Acts 7 clearly says in such plain and simple straight forward language that Christ was in the CHURCH in the wilderness.

Act_7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Using WRONG terminology like this leads to heretical views of scripture.

You are correct on the meaning of ekklessia. It is not merely an assembly. It is an assembly of people that have been CALLED. Eklessia is a noun that is a compound from two words joined together

Ek- out or from

Kaleo- called

 

[Hevosmies]

I fervently love the Jews.

Amen! They treated me like a king!

Finnish people(lets be honest most host countries in europe!) hate gypsies but the jews can relate to me so they love me back! We were both torched in WWII !

GYPSY JEW ALLIANCE. Warrior peoples. They think they will run us over cause we're outnumbered THEY GOT ANOTHER THING COMING! Look at how Israel WHOOPED 5 BIGGER nations during the six-day war.

God bless the Jews, they are GENIUSES, look at the amount of nobel prizes they got. They are SMART SMART people. You gotta be smart to survive against ALL ODDS. Lets give God some credit though, God PROMISED they would remain FOREVER. Which is why the devil has tried to take em out so many times!

 

[KJV1611]

Amen! They treated me like a king!

Finnish people(lets be honest most host countries in europe!) hate gypsies but the jews can relate to me so they love me back! We were both torched in WWII !

GYPSY JEW ALLIANCE. Warrior peoples. They think they will run us over cause we're outnumbered THEY GOT ANOTHER THING COMING! Look at how Israel WHOOPED 5 BIGGER nations during the six-day war.

God bless the Jews, they are GENIUSES, look at the amount of nobel prizes they got. They are SMART SMART people. You gotta be smart to survive against ALL ODDS. Lets give God some credit though, God PROMISED they would remain FOREVER. Which is why the devil has tried to take em out so many times!

Amo_8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

Joh 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

What conclusion do you come to on this?

When summer comes, the SUMMER FRUIT (Philip) was gathered into a basket and the END OF ISRAEL came and God will never again pass by them.

 

[Hevosmies]

Amo_8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

Joh 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

What conclusion do you come to on this?

When summer comes, the SUMMER FRUIT (Philip) was gathered into a basket and the END OF ISRAEL came and God will never again pass by them.

Oy vey!

What made you jump to the conclusion that summer fruit was Philip?

Anyhow, I suggest you KEEP READING the book of Amos, the next chapter is all about REBUILDING. And it doesnt matter what the next chapter is

Romans makes it clear, ISRAEL will come back to God. Its all going to come full circle. GOD AINT DONE WITH ISRAEL.

Trust me, ive spoken with those people they will be saved ONE OF THESE DAYS. Jesus is returning SOON.

 

[KJV1611]

Oy vey!

What made you jump to the conclusion that summer fruit was Philip?

Anyhow, I suggest you KEEP READING the book of Amos, the next chapter is all about REBUILDING. And it doesnt matter what the next chapter is

Romans makes it clear, ISRAEL will come back to God. Its all going to come full circle. GOD AINT DONE WITH ISRAEL.

Trust me, ive spoken with those people they will be saved ONE OF THESE DAYS. Jesus is returning SOON.

Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

Act 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

All of those things in Amos 9 that you attribute to the Jews that hate God don't apply to them. The restoration of Israel is the restoration of the tabernacle of David, which is now, was then, and always has been God's chosen people.

The Jews that you support are the ones that ran the tabernacle of David into the ground and that's why God took it from them and will never pass by them again.

 

[Macabeus]

Amen! They treated me like a king!

Finnish people(lets be honest most host countries in europe!) hate gypsies but the jews can relate to me so they love me back! We were both torched in WWII !

GYPSY JEW ALLIANCE. Warrior peoples. They think they will run us over cause we're outnumbered THEY GOT ANOTHER THING COMING! Look at how Israel WHOOPED 5 BIGGER nations during the six-day war.

God bless the Jews, they are GENIUSES, look at the amount of nobel prizes they got. They are SMART SMART people. You gotta be smart to survive against ALL ODDS. Lets give God some credit though, God PROMISED they would remain FOREVER. Which is why the devil has tried to take em out so many times!

Thats right. I use the biblical prophecies of Israel and their survival as a people against all odds, against satan trying to destroy them, against people like the Babylonians and Greek Seulucids trying to take away their cultural identity through assimilation, etc as an evidence to the Bible’s Divine inspiration when talking to atheists, libs, and skeptics

It’s funny that someone implies I am anti-Semite, when I use the name Macabeus as a screen name, and my wife is part Jewish. 🤣

 

[Hevosmies]

Thats right. I use the biblical prophecies of Israel and their survival as a people against all odds, against satan trying to destroy them, against people like the Babylonians and Greek Seulucids trying to take away their cultural identity through assimilation, etc as an evidence to the Bible’s Divine inspiration when talking to atheists, libs, and skeptics

It’s funny that someone implies I am anti-Semite, when I use the name Macabeus as a screen name, and my wife is part Jewish. 🤣

Its like the Maccabeats - Candlelight song says: "The war went on and on and on...... until the mighty greeks were GONE!"

 

[VCO]

Fourthly, Acts 2:31 when the Bible says Jesus went to Hades, it does not mean grave, because while Jesus' body was in the grave, Jesus' soul/life was in paradise.



If you disagree with me, well. But leave the anti-semite accusations out. If you knew my screen name and who it is in reference to, you wouldn't make such ridiculous accusations as calling me anti-semite.

Acts 2:31 (NASB)
31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that HE WAS NEITHER ABANDONED TO HADES, NOR DID His flesh SUFFER DECAY.

I told you the TRUTH, so Believe what you want to believe.

 

[VCO]

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I told you the TRUTH, so Believe what you want to believe.

 

[VCO]

So the gates of the GRAVE will not prevail against the church? Is that what Jesus meant when He used Hades there?

READ MY POST YET AGAIN, THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID.

I told you the TRUTH, so Believe what you want to believe.

 

[VCO]

Fourthly, Acts 2:31 when the Bible says Jesus went to Hades, it does not mean grave, because while Jesus' body was in the grave, Jesus' soul/life was in paradise.



If you disagree with me, well. But leave the anti-semite accusations out. If you knew my screen name and who it is in reference to, you wouldn't make such ridiculous accusations as calling me anti-semite.

YOU ARE NOT READING MY POSTS, just skimming through it. I DID NOT CALL YOU AN ANTI-SEMITE. I referred to people in general with a view of Believing Jews as being a lower class of Believers, is a form of Anti-Semitism. Maybe the HOLY SPIRIT STUCK YOU with a pointed stick.

I told you the TRUTH, so Believe what you want to believe.

 

[VCO]

Assembly is another word that does nothing but create confusion VCO. An assembly is nothing more than a gathering of people. Christ is building a church, an assembly of BELIEVERS.

By using the word ASSEMBLY in Acts 7:38 the fact that THE CHURCH EXISTED amongst THE ASSEMBLY in the wilderness is COMPLETELY HIDDEN.

Probably 90% (probably more) of Christianity thinks that the church STARTED when Christ came, but Acts 7 clearly says in such plain and simple straight forward language that Christ was in the CHURCH in the wilderness.

Act_7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Using WRONG terminology like this leads to heretical views of scripture.

I told you the TRUTH, so Believe what you want to believe.

 

[KJV1611]

I told you the TRUTH, so Believe what you want to believe.

I'm not against you VCO, I'm trying to help you see something. Do you believe the church existed well before the cross?