Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[NayborBear]

Again it's rather shocking that CHristians are saying they follow Jesus by not following Him. As you states, delusion indeed.

I guess this applies to some christians not just the Jews...

Psalms 118:19-22, " 19 Open to me the gates of righteousness, that I may enter through them and give thanks to the LORD. 20 This is the gate of the LORD; the righteous shall enter through it. 21 I thank you that you have answered me and have become my salvation. 22 The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone.

Aye! This "cycle of rebelliousness", seems to be coming round again, don't it?
That these same "types", looking for a "king", would indeed try and "recrucify" their king again!

Like Jesus pulled the law out of a box of cracker jacks!

 

[wokinluv]

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

When do you think it is that God puts His Laws on the Hearts and writes them on the Mind?

What do you think it is that gives Christians Rest from their work at the 10 commandments?

It is written, WAKE UP!

As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2:26

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Jesus said that He has not found your deeds complete in the sight of His God and ours.

If you see your God, who is your Lord, is working, are you going to rest? Who is the Lord and who is the servant?

“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18

So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’” Luke 17:10

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Which people of faith here on CC are rejecting Jesus as their King?

Who on CC rejects the one Lawgiver and Judge?

 

[Lightskin]

It is written, WAKE UP!

As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2:26

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Jesus said that He has not found your deeds complete in the sight of His God and ours.

If you see your God, who is your Lord, is working, are you going to rest? Who is the Lord and who is the servant?

“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18

So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’” Luke 17:10

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Who on CC rejects the one Lawgiver and Judge?

Reject what? The fact that Jesus lived a sinless life, was crucified, died and was buried, and on the third day resurrected to conquer sin and death for those of us who believe? What exactly are we rejecting?

 

[wokinluv]

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. Romans 12:9-11

 

[RickStudies]

of course not. there is a lot of things that are said here that you judeaizers do not want to talk about. you try to keep your cloak on , and not go into Sabbath keeping and Paul's writings are not authoritative Scripture , and the other non-sense you believe.

I`d say you`ve read very little of the posts I`ve made. If you had to give account for it, wouldn`t be good for you at all. You are either confused about who said what around here or you are trying to make yourself seem right by dishonesty.

 

[Lightskin]

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. Romans 12:9-11

Yeah, and?

 

[RickStudies]

Mean spirited word twisting. That's a good one. If you could see word twisting I would be impressed.

Its not my fault legalists contradict Christ and Paul.

I just show them that they do it.

You didn`t show anything except that you can reinterpret her comments into something she didn`t say.

 

[NayborBear]

Which people of faith here on CC are rejecting Jesus as their King?

All those who "reject" He who sent Jesus, and refuse to go unto He who sent Christ, as they are confessed unto His Father!
But, I reckon that would mean that these people are ones who don't actually have faith, wouldn't it?

But? what about those who are deluded into believing a "lie?" And striving to get others to believe that lie with them?
Are these people rejecting Jesus as their King? Are these same ones of delusion even have faith? They believe they do don't they?
Who is greater?
Jesus?
Or?
He who sent Jesus?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You can always twist what I say but remember this:

who is the one doing the twisting my friend?

Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. Galatians 6:7-10

So are you trying to work for your eternal life? I ask because that appears to be what you are saying, I do not want to misjudge you. but the bolded part makes it appear that way,

And second

Stop saying I am speaking against works, I am sick of this LAME twist of my words, You can not read what I am saying and say I am against works.

My argument is WHERE DO THOSE WORKS COME FROM, not that WE DO NOT HAVE TO WORK.

so practice what you preach and stop twisting my words!

You have provoked me to reply to your merry go round argument

You do not even know my argument, You are so angry at me for some reason, and on a witch hint to prove me wrong, you can;t hear a word I say. I did not provoke anything, You provoked yourself because your eyes are closed. so you can not see a thing I say. You see what you WANT TO see, not what I actually say

so I expect you to answer my questions otherwise I'll have to let it pass and let God be true and judge us.

I answered your question, So now once again your a slanderer and a liar, How can you say God has written his law in your heart, then go around bearing a false witness?
But to prove your false and willful twisting and slandering

Your questions:

Why do you think the law was written on our hearts if we do not need it?

Jesus did not write the ministrations of death on my heart, he wrote the law of love.

Did Jesus say that we don't need the law?

The law is our schoolmaster to lead us to christ, After the schoolmsters job is complete. we no longer are under it.

When He gave the instructions to preach the gospel and teach people to obey whatever He commanded them, does that not include the 10 commandments which were summed up in this one rule: "love your neighbour as yourself"?

The law of love, this is HOW we become obedient.

did you not say that God's people keep and obey His commandments?

They do, Because they have faith, And they also have Gods love POURED OUT in them,


Do we submit to God's authority by saying that we don't need His laws or commandments?

Well I have never said this or even sugest it, so this question is invalid, you will have to ask soomeone that believes this,, PS< I know of NO ONE who thinks this.

I have underlined your argument above and here's what the bible says:

And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 2 John 1:6

I see nothing underlined in my quote so I have not the slightest what your talking about

Every time I respond, I talk about love fulfilling the law. So why do you keep posting verses to me about LOVE and the LAW? This just shows your not listening to a word I am saying

The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.

Confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.

God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.

Yep. Thank you, you have just repeated what I have been saying from day one, THIS is how and why true believers are obedient.

But you can not hear this when you are not listening

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Which people of faith here on CC are rejecting Jesus as their King?

Well if you disagree with the bear, You reject Jesus..

I think that fact was established awhile ago

 

[wokinluv]

Reject what? The fact that Jesus lived a sinless life, was crucified, died and was buried, and on the third day resurrected to conquer sin and death for those of us who believe? What exactly are we rejecting?

“As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.” John 12:47-50

It is written, WAKE UP!

As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2:26

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Jesus said that He has not found your deeds complete in the sight of His God and ours.

If you see your God, who is your Lord, is working, are you going to rest? Who is the Lord and who is the servant?

“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18

So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’” Luke 17:10

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Who on CC rejects the one Lawgiver and Judge?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is written, WAKE UP!

As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2:26

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Jesus said that He has not found your deeds complete in the sight of His God and ours.

If you see your God, who is your Lord, is working, are you going to rest? Who is the Lord and who is the servant?

“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18

So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’” Luke 17:10

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Who on CC rejects the one Lawgiver and Judge?

No one

But people sure keep getting accused of it

Discernment is lacking greatly

 

[DeighAnn]

Aye! This "cycle of rebelliousness", seems to be coming round again, don't it?
That these same "types", looking for a "king", would indeed try and "recrucify" their king again!

Like Jesus pulled the law out of a box of cracker jacks!

I understand you are talking about continuing past being saved by Christ and moving onto the Father. Is there a thread, or could you start one on just that subject. I would really love to see what God has shared with you. I think the overwhelming amount of scripture that flat out says "follow, do, keep ect. my commands" verses anyone who says don't, has been settled and now it is just word games . It seems there are a few people like me who may be ready for a more detailed version.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. Romans 12:9-11

The love of God is sincere Because it comes from him

maybe it is tie to stop being a fruit inspector. and start looking for ways in which you can produce fruit yourself? y showing works of love, which come from God, not works of the flesh, which comes from working at the law

 

[Lightskin]

All those who "reject" He who sent Jesus, and refuse to go unto He who sent Christ, as they are confessed unto His Father!
But, I reckon that would mean that these people are ones who don't actually have faith, wouldn't it?

But? what about those who are deluded into believing a "lie?" And striving to get others to believe that lie with them?
Are these people rejecting Jesus as their King? Are these same ones of delusion even have faith? They believe they do don't they?
Who is greater?
Jesus?
Or?
He who sent Jesus?

How are they rejecting He who sent Jesus?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You didn`t show anything except that you can reinterpret her comments into something she didn`t say.

care to elaborate?

What words did she say that he twisted?

that heps to know.. and if a person did misunderstand, gives them the ability to see and repent.

Just making an open judgment does not help at all.

 

[NayborBear]

Reject what? The fact that Jesus lived a sinless life, was crucified, died and was buried, and on the third day resurrected to conquer sin and death for those of us who believe? What exactly are we rejecting?

Umm? Rejecting He who sent Jesus?

Romans 8
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs WITH Christ; if so be that we suffer WITH him, that we may be also glorified together. (WITH, not IN.....WITH Christ!)

 

[Lightskin]

Well if you disagree with the bear, You reject Jesus..

I think that fact was established awhile ago

I guess it’s a good thing nayborbear’s works maintain his salvation.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I understand you are talking about continuing past being saved by Christ and moving onto the Father. Is there a thread, or could you start one on just that subject. I would really love to see what God has shared with you. I think the overwhelming amount of scripture that flat out says "follow, do, keep ect. my commands" verses anyone who says don't, has been settled and now it is just word games . It seems there are a few people like me who may be ready for a more detailed version.

Who says don't sis?

I know this accusation gets thrown around alot, but it is all part of the fight from one group. and not even being proposed or stated by the ones who are being accused of it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I guess it’s a good thing nayborbear’s works maintain his salvation.

Just throw romans 8, Ephesians 2. John 3, 4, and 6 and many others out the door.