Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
D

DeighAnn

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#6,941
Jun 11, 2019
2,436
760
113
#6,941
Ezekiel 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh

Ezekiel 11:20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

Ezekiel 11:21 But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.


The Law of the Kingdom of God, straight for the mouth of Jesus, in Matt 5 is basically the commandments God Himself wrote with His own finger.

We must remember who Jesus said shall be least in the kingdom.
 
D

DeighAnn

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#6,942
Jun 11, 2019
2,436
760
113
#6,942
RickStudies said:
They just express it differently. In the case of Rahab, yes she was a harlot and I believe the flax had been a form of payment for services.
Click to expand...
Sure would like to see what you have on it. Funny for the person "bringing in the huge "payment" and what a lot of work for her to do afterwards trying to get it sold. Just saying I look forward to the info.
 
R

RickStudies

Active member
#6,943
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
#6,943
DeighAnn said:
Ezekiel 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh

Ezekiel 11:20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

Ezekiel 11:21 But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.


The Law of the Kingdom of God, straight for the mouth of Jesus, in Matt 5 is basically the commandments God Himself wrote with His own finger.

We must remember who Jesus said shall be least in the kingdom.
Click to expand...
Be careful :) He was talking about the whole Law not just the 10 commandments. Earth is still here right?

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 
R

RickStudies

Active member
#6,944
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
#6,944
DeighAnn said:
Sure would like to see what you have on it. Funny for the person "bringing in the huge "payment" and what a lot of work for her to do afterwards trying to get it sold. Just saying I look forward to the info.
Click to expand...
I`m not sure what you mean by what I have on it.
 
R

RickStudies

Active member
#6,945
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
#6,945
mailmandan said:
My post was not copy and pasted from an article. Still sounds like a cop out to me. Just admit that you have no rebuttal. If you are overwhelmed by the length of the entire post, then simply start with James 2:14. Stop acting childish and let’s reason together through the scriptures.
Click to expand...
If you really believe what you are saying all I can say is you`re naive and ignorant. I`ve written a small book and a bunch of articles. I spent over 5 years in Yahoo`s heyday having two groups and debating every doctrine you can imagine, taking all challeges. That was my policy. I`ve studied the Bible for 36 years and I read religeous and political commentary daily.

Your article is a bad read. The writer picks and chooses which scriptures he wants to talk about and then he throws in some monkey talk, making it sound like James works doctrine has an alternative meaning to it.

He has a target audience that he is catering too but he knows better because he threw this comment in with the junk he wrote

"Words/works will be evidences for, or against a man's being in a state of righteousness." That`s a quote right out of your mud puddle article and it makes words, behavior and works pretty important eh?
 
Lightskin

Lightskin

Well-known member
#6,946
Aug 16, 2019
3,165
3,665
113
#6,946
RickStudies said:
Big responsibilty. I hope for your sake that you know how to lead them to repentence.
Click to expand...
I provide comfort to people in the Name of Christ. Many are believers, many are not, but I share God’s love and grace to whoever welcomes it just the same. For those who refuse, I shake the dust off my feet.
 
mailmandan

mailmandan

Senior Member
#6,947
Apr 7, 2014
25,460
13,399
113
58
#6,947
RickStudies said:
If you really believe what you are saying all I can say is you`re naive and ignorant. I`ve written a small book and a bunch of articles. I spent over 5 years in Yahoo`s heyday having two groups and debating every doctrine you can imagine, taking all challeges. That was my policy. I`ve studied the Bible for 36 years and I read religeous and political commentary daily.

Your article is a bad read. The writer picks and chooses which scriptures he wants to talk about and then he throws in some monkey talk, making it sound like James works doctrine has an alternative meaning to it.

He has a target audience that he is catering too but he knows better because he threw this comment in with the junk he wrote

"Words/works will be evidences for, or against a man's being in a state of righteousness." That`s a quote right out of your mud puddle article and it makes words, behavior and works pretty important eh?
Click to expand...
Not impressed. It’s becoming more and more obvious that you teach salvation by works and you have no rebuttal. :cautious:
 
T

TheDivineWatermark

Well-known member
#6,951
Aug 3, 2018
10,887
2,112
113
#6,951
RickStudies said:
Ok, I get your point :) Well said. Answer is yes.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Click to expand...
Okay, well if I understand your response :D , I would just like to point out how I've said in past posts (you may recall), I see a difference in the phrases "FROM [apo] the foundation of the world" (which doesn't refer to "before time," which was my question posed to you), and "BEFORE [pro] the foundation of the world" (which is not the phrasing in the verse you supplied in your response [Heb4:3 ^ , in your quote above] :) ).

So, it's doubtful we are seeing this the same. :)
 
R

RickStudies

Active member
#6,952
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
#6,952
TheDivineWatermark said:
Okay, well if I understand your response :D , I would just like to point out how I've said in past posts (you may recall), I see a difference in the phrases "FROM [apo] the foundation of the world" (which doesn't refer to "before time," which was my question posed to you), and "BEFORE [pro] the foundation of the world" (which is not the phrasing in the verse you supplied in your response [Heb4:3 ^ , in your quote above] :) ).

So, it's doubtful we are seeing this the same. :)
Click to expand...
Do you have another verse? Hebrews 4:3 is the only one I was aware of. Explain your position to me.
 
T

TheDivineWatermark

Well-known member
#6,955
Aug 3, 2018
10,887
2,112
113
#6,955
*I * remember... but what I'm wondering is whether YOU do :D

It's fine... I'm probably going to have to close it down for some shut-eye, here soon... so g'night. Rest well. :)
 
G

Guojing

Banned
#6,958
Jan 12, 2019
7,497
1,399
113
#6,958
RickStudies said:
It`s bad form to expect somebody to spend valuable time on a cut and paste article. I was born at night but not last night. Ever hear that saying? Pick a better article next time you try that con on a message board. If yours was any good I would have been compelled to answer it anyway. That one was terrible. Unworthy to be remarked on.
Click to expand...
I believed he composed it himself, so its not cut and paste from someone else's creation.

But he has saved his composition and will whip it up every time someone wants to claim that James is teaching a different message from Paul.

The point is, his mind, like many of us, are already made up, so that is really no point trying to discuss, if your objective is to change his mind.
 
R

RickStudies

Active member
#6,959
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
#6,959
Guojing said:
I believed he composed it himself, so its not cut and paste from someone else's creation.

But he has saved his composition and will whip it up every time someone wants to claim that James is teaching a different message from Paul.

The point is, his mind, like many of us, are already made up, so that is really no point trying to discuss, if your objective is to change his mind.
Click to expand...
I doubt he composed it, the bold lettering on key words is a strong indicator that it was copied from the internet. Also, the quote that I pulled from the article is contrary to his belief system. I doubt he wrote that.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.