Not By Works

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Melach said:
i will get back to you once i research the word antinomian. there aer many big words in christianity. i know it means lawless

i dont know why they say they died in grace. what do you believe about it?
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Anti-law......which shows how much his view reeks of ignorance....our view is called proper perspective concerning law and the only thing we are anti about....the false dogmas peddled by people like him....
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
How many sins have you commited in the last week that you do not even know or remember you commited them?

If confession of every sin is required to maintain salvation, no one is, or ever will be saved.
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Some of these geniuses have no ability to grasp GRACE out bounding our SIN and or the FACT that EVERY sin was paid for at the cross........they LOVE to NAIL JESUS up every chance they get
 
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dcontroversal said:
Some of these geniuses have no ability to grasp GRACE out bounding our SIN and or the FACT that EVERY sin was paid for at the cross........they LOVE to NAIL JESUS up every chance they get
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They are no better than pharisees who pump their chest praising god they are not like us sinners.

Sadly I fear their eternal end will be no different either. Unless they repent. Like paul and nicodemus did, there is always hope,
 
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dcontroversal said:
Anti-law......which shows how much his view reeks of ignorance....our view is called proper perspective concerning law and the only thing we are anti about....the false dogmas peddled by people like him....
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No your view is lawlessness. unrepentant fornicators go to heaven. You said so yourself
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Jesus said it best, ALL sin WILL be forgiven

He does not separate sin, because scripture states the penalty of ALL sin is death.

People focus on some sins to make themselves look batter, because they have not understood how sinfull they really are and are not secure in christ, so they need to find hope, their hope is that they are not a bad as a sinner as these people.

Its a sign of legalism, we see it in the jews, we see it in much of the church. Same tactic of satan
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all manner of sin and blasphemy against the SON........just to embellish the first line ;)
 
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Melach said:
so can you answer me friend. if i lie now, die 20mins later do i go to hell?
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Your actions reveal the state of your heart. We are not sinless. But you are on a slippery slope with such questions
Macabeus said:
No your view is lawlessness. unrepentant fornicators go to heaven. You said so yourself
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eternally-gratefull said:
Thats law speak, if that can cause us to lose salvation, then an animal must die to bring redemption, no amount of repentance will save you,

As scripture says, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness

and since only jesus blood can wash away sin, that means jesus has to die again. Which is never going to happen, so they would be lost forever for that one sin that caused death.

They do not understand the law or what is required.
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Easy believism equals NO REPENTANCE NECESSARY. And that is the position you have taken
 
Macabeus said:
Antinomians believe even unrepentant fornicators and adulterers have eternal life. It has been said on this site. Complete contradiction of 1 Cor 6:9-11

And sin is sin, so in antinomianism, all unrepentant sin can be practiced and one is saved.

So if I die in the state of adultery, I go to heaven. I just don’t inherit.
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You come here and state "works have no part in salvation" and then you write this......so contradictory.

Like I stated you reveal your true beliefs ...before I thought you were trying to straddle the two lanes of grace and works but now I know you are actually only in the "my performance saves me" lane.
 
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dcontroversal said:
NO.......and the bible states clearly that ALL MEN are LIARS.....NOT were........but hey......On the back of the box, the instructions tell how to cook Macaroni.......
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All men are liars. I guess were all going to hell. Revelation 21:8. Learn what these words mean “ such WERE some of you.

Easy believism. No repentance necessary
 
UnderGrace said:
You come here and state "works have no part in salvation" and then you write this......so contradictory.

Like I stated you reveal your true beliefs ...before I thought you were trying to straddle the two lanes of grace and works but now I know you are actually only in the "my performance saves me" lane.
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REPENTANCE is not a meritorious work any more than faith is. You all show dismal ignorance of the nature of regeneration
 
dcontroversal said:
I seen right through his drivel the first day he started peddling his street organ playing gospel with a dancing monkey for coin.....and he cannot be engaged with any kind of cognitive reasoning......his skewed view permeates every waking thought....
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I love he says he does not teach works, and he appears to be true in saying that, then he slips, and you see works are there in the background

He can fool some people, but those who pay close attention will not be fooled.thats why we must keep a sharp eye out,
 
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