If Perchance Catholicism Is Mistaken
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Yes, part of what the verses are saying there is that there is no excuse for doing evil.
But it also says that humans all over the world throughout history have been able to see God's characteristics in creation. It makes sense to me, then, that some people would be adoring Abraham God, though very likely calling him by another name and having mistakenly added wrong characteristics to him.
Acts 10: 34. Peter opened his mouth and said, "Truly I perceive that God doesn't show favoritism; 35. but in every nation he who fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.
This verse to me implies that there are those in every nation who fear Abraham God and work righteousness.
But it also says that humans all over the world throughout history have been able to see God's characteristics in creation. It makes sense to me, then, that some people would be adoring Abraham God, though very likely calling him by another name and having mistakenly added wrong characteristics to him.
Acts 10: 34. Peter opened his mouth and said, "Truly I perceive that God doesn't show favoritism; 35. but in every nation he who fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.
This verse to me implies that there are those in every nation who fear Abraham God and work righteousness.
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When was the book first called first John? I don't know. Based on this webpage
http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon3.html
It looks like someone named Irenaeus was the first person to include it in his list of Bible books. So my guess would be about 160 a d.
If being in line with scripture doesn't mean something is scripture, then
Why would we think first John was scripture, without using Christian tradition?
http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon3.html
It looks like someone named Irenaeus was the first person to include it in his list of Bible books. So my guess would be about 160 a d.
If being in line with scripture doesn't mean something is scripture, then
Why would we think first John was scripture, without using Christian tradition?
The NASB has the complete message, as does the NIV.
Some translations leave out words or passages that the translators have deemed to be non-original. That is, those words were apparently added to later manuscripts of Scripture but don't appear in earlier versions, and were likely added by scribes.
Some translations leave out words or passages that the translators have deemed to be non-original. That is, those words were apparently added to later manuscripts of Scripture but don't appear in earlier versions, and were likely added by scribes.
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Yes, Moving the holy men of old to believe giving the authority opening their ears. I would think without the faith of Christ that works in us, yoked with him to both will and do his good pleasure .They could not hear.
It does show they have the Spirit of Christ no of there own selves but the free gift of faith .His workings in us that can believe him not seen.
Like the Noble Bereans used to edify the new kingdom of priest after the new testament order .also used with Peter.
With all readiness of mind by Him who not only teaches us but also brings to our minds the things he has.
Acts 17:11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: . . . . .(us)
They heard the inspired word of God and were moved by the Spirit of Christ in them to see if it was so. This is when God was still bringing new revelations. We now have the perfect sealed with 7 seals till the end of time.
Parable 25:2- 3 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.
Making us searchable to the world
You could say as a kingdom of Priest, ambassadors for Christ. . sent as apostles from a foreign land not of here (not under the Sun) .To those he gives the understanding. . . hid in various parables.
It does show they have the Spirit of Christ no of there own selves but the free gift of faith .His workings in us that can believe him not seen.
Like the Noble Bereans used to edify the new kingdom of priest after the new testament order .also used with Peter.
With all readiness of mind by Him who not only teaches us but also brings to our minds the things he has.
Acts 17:11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: . . . . .(us)
They heard the inspired word of God and were moved by the Spirit of Christ in them to see if it was so. This is when God was still bringing new revelations. We now have the perfect sealed with 7 seals till the end of time.
Parable 25:2- 3 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.
Making us searchable to the world
You could say as a kingdom of Priest, ambassadors for Christ. . sent as apostles from a foreign land not of here (not under the Sun) .To those he gives the understanding. . . hid in various parables.
To me Paul say this verse say every body know God through His creation, not in the context they worship abraham god, but in the context no excuses to do evil.
Than it may there are people that never heard about Jesus worship unknown God.
Not mean Muslim worship abraham god. Because some Muslim hear about Jesus, their prophet mohammad uncle is Christian. His wife kotijah was catholic.
Than it may there are people that never heard about Jesus worship unknown God.
Not mean Muslim worship abraham god. Because some Muslim hear about Jesus, their prophet mohammad uncle is Christian. His wife kotijah was catholic.
Translation is something to consider. Translating the Hebrew and the Greek into English and deciding where those fit in context to any scripture is challenging.
One Bible scholar recommends NRSV as the best translation of the Bible available. There is a very good study edition of NRSV called the HarperCollins Study Bible.
One Bible scholar recommends NRSV as the best translation of the Bible available. There is a very good study edition of NRSV called the HarperCollins Study Bible.
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We are Christian must concern about what happen after death. After death eternity, that is jesus want us to focus on.
Colossians 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Bible also say test every Spirit or teaching.
I hope we learn to obey the Bible, like you say you die with Christ, mean you have to obey bible to test if purgatory in the Bible.
Vatican read about Jesus, heard about Jesus and reject Jesus teaching by teach purgatory.
Purgatory origin from pagan, I understand if pagan teach purgatory, because they do not know or never heard about Jesus.
Colossians 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Bible also say test every Spirit or teaching.
I hope we learn to obey the Bible, like you say you die with Christ, mean you have to obey bible to test if purgatory in the Bible.
Vatican read about Jesus, heard about Jesus and reject Jesus teaching by teach purgatory.
Purgatory origin from pagan, I understand if pagan teach purgatory, because they do not know or never heard about Jesus.
Why ireneus put john as the writer?
It may he was investigate. John die about ad 100. Ireneus put his name at ad 160
He may know apostle john when the apostle live. And he may know who wrote that letter. Or he may know from other. I do not think he is lie.
Not about purgatory, which apostle teach it, if it is apostle tradition, why not in the act.
It may he was investigate. John die about ad 100. Ireneus put his name at ad 160
He may know apostle john when the apostle live. And he may know who wrote that letter. Or he may know from other. I do not think he is lie.
Not about purgatory, which apostle teach it, if it is apostle tradition, why not in the act.
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One of the Church's earliest official proclamations regarding a purgatory was
Pope Leo X's Bull of Exurge Domine. In the year 1520 he stated, along with
some other things, that death is the termination not of nature but of sin, and
this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of final happiness.
In other words: according to Leo X, the occupants of a purgatory are unable
to sin; consequently they won't commit any new sins while undergoing
discipline and purification.
I'm sure it can be seen right off just how essential it would be for souls in a
purgatory to be incapable of sinning, because if they weren't, then Rome’s
promise in CCC.1030, of an assured eternal salvation for purgatorians,
would be a tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while
interred in a purgatory would add time to the penitent’s original sentence;
with the very real possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where
they would never be released.
If Pope Leo X's Bull of Exurge Domine is correct as regards the absence of
sin in purgatory then I would have to conclude that it's a very peaceful place
seeing as how everyone in residence there would be complying with the
Sermon On The Mount and all the beatitudes.
One of the things that I would really appreciate in Leo's purgatory is civility.
I've participated on better than thirty Christian internet forums beginning in
1997, and one of the things I've noticed is that too many people wearing the
Christian label have forgotten all about turning the other cheek. Oh m' gosh
you wouldn't believe how ugly, spiteful, and vindictive Christians can be
when they put their minds to it!
In Leo's purgatory; there's no cruelty of any kind; for example dishonesty,
malicious gossip, demeaning comments, thoughtless remarks, name-calling,
toxic rejoinders, discourtesy, chafing, quarrelling, bickering, mockery,
relentless ridicule,
. . . fault-finding, nit picking, spite, rivalry, carping, bullying, heckling,
intimidation, wiseacre retorts, needling, taunting, biting sarcasm, petty ill
will, yelling, ugly insinuations, cold-shouldering, calculated insults, snobbery,
elitism, arrogance, subterfuge, antisocial behaviors, sociopaths, crime, war,
despotism, oppression, injustice, human rights abuses, character
assassination, etc, etc, et al, and ad nauseam.
If Leo is correct. then we can expect that all the Christian virtues, every one
of them, are being exemplified 24/7/365 in purgatory.
However, if Leo's Bull is full of bull, then I think we can reasonably expect
purgatory's social environment to be little different than what we're
accustomed.
Most Catholics regard purgatory as a safety net whence they will be taken in
the event they fail to sufficiently measure up to God's standards. However,
purgatory is not all that easy to attain. According to the Catechism, CCC
1035, Catholics are just inches from the worst. Should it happen that they
leave this life with just one non absolved mortal sin on the books, just one,
they go directly to Hell; no stop-over in a half-way house. No, their trip is a
direct flight. Even if they've been a faithful Catholic for 49 years, they will
miss the boat just as if they had been a Hindu, or a Muslim, or an atheist. All
their years as a faithful Catholic will be stricken from the record and count
for naught.
FAQ: Does the Bible teach the existence of a purgatory?
A: Though there are numerous passages in the Bible that allude-- i.e.
suggest --the possibility; all such passages are indirect references rather
than obvious, clear-cut, black and white teachings; ergo: there's a very good
chance that purgatory is the product of human reasoning and a fertile
imagination.
However, passages that suggest one thing, can also be made to suggest
another, so I do not recommend putting too much stock in Rome's ideas. It
is much safer to assume the worst, and then begin preparing yourself for it
in the event that purgatory turns out to be a huge mistake, viz: just as there
are no second place winners in a gunfight, it just might be there are no
second place winners in matters related to Heaven and Hell.
_
One of the Church's earliest official proclamations regarding a purgatory was
Pope Leo X's Bull of Exurge Domine. In the year 1520 he stated, along with
some other things, that death is the termination not of nature but of sin, and
this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of final happiness.
In other words: according to Leo X, the occupants of a purgatory are unable
to sin; consequently they won't commit any new sins while undergoing
discipline and purification.
I'm sure it can be seen right off just how essential it would be for souls in a
purgatory to be incapable of sinning, because if they weren't, then Rome’s
promise in CCC.1030, of an assured eternal salvation for purgatorians,
would be a tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while
interred in a purgatory would add time to the penitent’s original sentence;
with the very real possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where
they would never be released.
If Pope Leo X's Bull of Exurge Domine is correct as regards the absence of
sin in purgatory then I would have to conclude that it's a very peaceful place
seeing as how everyone in residence there would be complying with the
Sermon On The Mount and all the beatitudes.
One of the things that I would really appreciate in Leo's purgatory is civility.
I've participated on better than thirty Christian internet forums beginning in
1997, and one of the things I've noticed is that too many people wearing the
Christian label have forgotten all about turning the other cheek. Oh m' gosh
you wouldn't believe how ugly, spiteful, and vindictive Christians can be
when they put their minds to it!
In Leo's purgatory; there's no cruelty of any kind; for example dishonesty,
malicious gossip, demeaning comments, thoughtless remarks, name-calling,
toxic rejoinders, discourtesy, chafing, quarrelling, bickering, mockery,
relentless ridicule,
. . . fault-finding, nit picking, spite, rivalry, carping, bullying, heckling,
intimidation, wiseacre retorts, needling, taunting, biting sarcasm, petty ill
will, yelling, ugly insinuations, cold-shouldering, calculated insults, snobbery,
elitism, arrogance, subterfuge, antisocial behaviors, sociopaths, crime, war,
despotism, oppression, injustice, human rights abuses, character
assassination, etc, etc, et al, and ad nauseam.
If Leo is correct. then we can expect that all the Christian virtues, every one
of them, are being exemplified 24/7/365 in purgatory.
However, if Leo's Bull is full of bull, then I think we can reasonably expect
purgatory's social environment to be little different than what we're
accustomed.
Most Catholics regard purgatory as a safety net whence they will be taken in
the event they fail to sufficiently measure up to God's standards. However,
purgatory is not all that easy to attain. According to the Catechism, CCC
1035, Catholics are just inches from the worst. Should it happen that they
leave this life with just one non absolved mortal sin on the books, just one,
they go directly to Hell; no stop-over in a half-way house. No, their trip is a
direct flight. Even if they've been a faithful Catholic for 49 years, they will
miss the boat just as if they had been a Hindu, or a Muslim, or an atheist. All
their years as a faithful Catholic will be stricken from the record and count
for naught.
FAQ: Does the Bible teach the existence of a purgatory?
A: Though there are numerous passages in the Bible that allude-- i.e.
suggest --the possibility; all such passages are indirect references rather
than obvious, clear-cut, black and white teachings; ergo: there's a very good
chance that purgatory is the product of human reasoning and a fertile
imagination.
However, passages that suggest one thing, can also be made to suggest
another, so I do not recommend putting too much stock in Rome's ideas. It
is much safer to assume the worst, and then begin preparing yourself for it
in the event that purgatory turns out to be a huge mistake, viz: just as there
are no second place winners in a gunfight, it just might be there are no
second place winners in matters related to Heaven and Hell.
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