Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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People have to work hard at keeping the law, not so with Jesus, whose main concern on a physical level is to care for the poor, the sick and the infirm. A yoke that attaches to the neck of an ox is made for two and with Jesus by our side our burden is light.

"People" is a slightly general term for the subject, but yes, the sentiment is genuine. Anything done in the "flesh" will be exasperating. But could it be that you have not yet found the genuine love for God and His commandments yet? Please, don't take that the wrong way, but the work of The Holy Spirit in our hearts to love the Law is "supernatural". Not the same, but similar to when a young couple marries and the relationship is so easy as they are both satisfied with the relationship, then in some cases sadly "reality" sets in and the relationship begins to lean on the maturity of the commitment. But in our case the Holy Spirits presence gurantees the infatuation with Gods commandments throughout our lives here, giving us a "burden that is easy and a yoke that is light" :)
 
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The Pharisees accused him of doing that, and according to the law of Moses they were right.
Um No. He did nto break the law of moses.

If he did, he was in sin.

And he NEVER fulfilled the law, he is under the CURSE of the law
 
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The Pharisees accused him of doing that, and according to the law of Moses they were right.
But again if two commands hang in the balance and you have to chose one, Which One? Damned if you do and damned if you don't, right? His mission was from the Father to "Save the lost sheep of the house of Israel" and so Yahshua's choice was based upon God's command to Him. He was faithful. Brings new meaning to the admonition;

Rom 14:4 NIV

(4) Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

We should take care not to put ourselves in the same position of "judging" Yahshua's actions! Very, very precarious place to put yourself.
 

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Um No. He did nto break the law of moses.

If he did, he was in sin.

And he NEVER fulfilled the law, he is under the CURSE of the law
Jesus gleaned on the Sabbath which is against the law, but as the Lord of the Sabbath Jesus could do that. The disciples did the same.
 
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Jesus gleaned on the Sabbath which is against the law, but as the Lord of the Sabbath Jesus could do that. The disciples did the same.
What mission were they on? And, Who sent them? If God sent Yahshua and His deputies/disciples then He/They were "Obeying" the Greatest commandment as first and foremost!

If anything, you should follow Yahshua's lead and when faced with "judging the actions of Yahshua" and ;
Mat 22:37-38 NIV

(37) Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'

(38) This is the first and greatest commandment.


You would chose the Latter or the Greatest! THis disregard for God's commandments has you wading into some dangerous waters. The Holy Spirit would not lead you here.
 
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Jesus gleaned on the Sabbath which is against the law, but as the Lord of the Sabbath Jesus could do that. The disciples did the same.
Dude

IF JESUS BROKE THE LAW, HE SINNED

Jesus did not sin, period..

The pharisees took the law out of context. THEIR aspect of the sabbath was in ERROR. He broke THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW, he did NOT BREAK GODS LAW!!!
 
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There is no one in particular that this is written to, but if you find your every waking hour searching for ways and reasons not to remain loyal and subject to the commandments of God then WHY?

Most loyal Spirit filled Christians will tell you in an instant that their lives began the day their hearts began to have joy in the Laws of God! There is a rest in being able to fulfill the First and greatest commandment, and it is a gift of Grace to have the supernatural desire! The true nature of being a New Creation is to have abilities to do the Good your Old man couldn't!
 
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There is no one in particular that this is written to, but if you find your every waking hour searching for ways and reasons not to remain loyal and subject to the commandments of God then WHY?

Most loyal Spirit filled Christians will tell you in an instant that their lives began the day their hearts began to have joy in the Laws of God! There is a rest in being able to fulfill the First and greatest commandment, and it is a gift of Grace to have the supernatural desire! The true nature of being a New Creation is to have abilities to do the Good your Old man couldn't!
Most christians?

Most christians will tell you the instant their lives began was the day they were Adopted by God, made his child and given every spiritual blessing under heaven, Including the deal of the HS, And could finally rest from trying to be righteous themselves. And could rest on the knowledge that God, who began a good work in them, will complete it until the day of Christ.
 
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thats what i said too which is why i dont believe Jesus broke the sabbath. otherwise we have wrong messiah
I do not know how much clearer that can be.
 

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Dude

IF JESUS BROKE THE LAW, HE SINNED

Jesus did not sin, period..

The pharisees took the law out of context. THEIR aspect of the sabbath was in ERROR. He broke THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW, he did NOT BREAK GODS LAW!!!
You make a good point.

See here for JEWISH LAW http://thenazareneway.com/sabbath/39_prohib_sabbath.htm

This is GODS LAW
The greatest of God’s commandments is to is to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.” 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

God’s law is greater than the Law of Moses.

Perhaps now those who preach Jewish Law which is not God's Law, will remain silent.
 

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What are my choices? I want to make sure I pick the one you like best.

But I was originally referring to the 10 commandments and all of Moses Law.

I know some people divide Moses law into pieces and parts but I don't. When I refer to law I am talking about OT Moses law.

If I refer to another law other than moses then I specifically use the name of that law.


Its easier to say 'the law' and refer to the 10c's which includes moses than try to include everyones thoughts on which laws are part of the 'the law' and which aren't.
I don't refer to the ten commands as those of Moses. They were given to Moses by the Father so for me they are God's law. Which is why I asked for clarification as to what you meant when you referred to the Law. Thanks for doing that. :)
 

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You make a good point.

See here for JEWISH LAW http://thenazareneway.com/sabbath/39_prohib_sabbath.htm

This is GODS LAW
The greatest of God’s commandments is to is to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.” 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

God’s law is greater than the Law of Moses.

Perhaps now those who preach Jewish Law which is not God's Law, will remain silent.
God's law is the law of Moses is it not?

10 commandments are in which book of the Bible? the second book of........... moses. exodus.
 
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You make a good point.

See here for JEWISH LAW http://thenazareneway.com/sabbath/39_prohib_sabbath.htm

This is GODS LAW
The greatest of God’s commandments is to is to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.” 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

God’s law is greater than the Law of Moses.

Perhaps now those who preach Jewish Law which is not God's Law, will remain silent.
Who is preaching "Jewish Law"? And It would help me to get a clearer meaning of Jewish law.
 

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I do not see an exception to the Apostle Saint Paul's letter to the Galatians. Chapter three verse 28.
There is no difference. This was Paul's response to those who thought there was.
 

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God's law is the law of Moses is it not?

10 commandments are in which book of the Bible? the second book of........... moses. exodus.
The commandments of Jesus as given in the Sermon on the Mount are different from the Mosaic Law.
 

Melach

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The commandments of Jesus as given in the Sermon on the Mount are different from the Mosaic Law.
nah. they are paraphrasing and expanding on the already given laws of the ot. what new is there?

when Jesus says "you have heard it said, hate your enemy" you have heard it said but its not actually in the bible.
 

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We are to leave behind "the letter of the law written in stone" The old covenant, (flesh following law, through Obedience, without indwelling of spirit) of bondage and death.
And we are to follow the "spirit of the law , written in our hearts and minds" (spirit loving the law, walking and living in love, with indwelling of spirit)
then we do not have to be "perfect", as in perfectly following "the letter of the law",
but as repentant and forgiven, the spirit leading in all things in love toward God and our fellow man.
The New Covenant made possible through His blood and sacrifice, the Lord Jesus Christ, setting us free of the bondage, and defeating death now almost 2000 yrs ago.

John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue but in deed and in truth.
John 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.
John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
John 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him,
because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
John 3:23 And this is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

John 3:24 And he that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.

AND how are we to know others that He abideth in? by their fruits.

Colossians 1:8 Who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit.
Colossians 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding
Colossians 1:10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

Colossians 1:11 Strengthened with all might, according to His glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness

By the Grace of God, this follows after receiving the gift of salvation, God given, for which we can not work to attain, and in the Lord Jesus we are justified, through His righteousness, Sanctified and in Sanctification, so that no works are counted towards the Gifts, but are works for the love towards God.