Who is voting for Trump again?
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the electoral college is in the constitution. That said, all men are created equal but not all men live life with the equal amount of integrity. Some people vote for the nation’s prosperity while other people vote to undermine its prosperity. Thus, the electoral college is worthy.
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The point went totally over your head. I listed celebrities that attended his wedding, a pretty personal event. Also trying to kiss his...ring at Mar-A-Lago. And none of them knew he was a "deplorable" person UNTIL he ran for office and screwed Hillary out of her win? Because, as her hubby slick Willie said, "it's her turn." None of them had crap all to say about him until he won after they all laughed and swore he'd never win. They were all his buddies,trying to get close to him till he came down that escalator. Then overnight he became the worst SOB (son of a buck) to walk the earth. Go on with ya. Two faced, hypocritical hyenas and jackals. Wouldn't trust them as far as I could them and the MSM along with them. EU wants globalism, have at it. Not what America is about.
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Ricky, is your Red X a proclamation of disagreement or your proclamation that I’m correct and you simply hate the truth? Democrats are masters of identity politics whose end goal is to divide and conquer. That’s a fact. Another fact is the GOP sits back twiddling their thumbs about it which makes them guilty by association.
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I mean I hate to use the word ignorance, but as Woody said in Toy Story 2 "If the Boooot Fits".
You CAN'T gerrymander a state! Explain how that could possibly happen? And while you are at it, we have STILL not seen you answer your charge that Trump oppressed the American people. HOW has he done that?
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You can gerrymander districts and this is a problem.
r.v. ger·ry·man·dered, ger·ry·man·der·ing, ger·ry·man·ders
To divide (a geographic area) into voting districts in a way that gives one party an unfair advantage in elections.
n.
1. The act, process, or an instance of gerrymandering.
2. A district or configuration of districts whose boundaries are very irregular due to gerrymandering.
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r.v. ger·ry·man·dered, ger·ry·man·der·ing, ger·ry·man·ders
To divide (a geographic area) into voting districts in a way that gives one party an unfair advantage in elections.
n.
1. The act, process, or an instance of gerrymandering.
2. A district or configuration of districts whose boundaries are very irregular due to gerrymandering.
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the US is not a Democracy and good reasons for why it is not a democracy. I know why it is not a democracy and the reasoning behind that are sound
far more sound than some of the posts the last 5 or 6 pages. thankfully, people who were far wiser than the authors of some of those posts, understood the failure of the popular vote being representational of a country where the majority of the populace exists in less than half the states
sorry...actually not sorry...if that is over anyone's head
you can read the entire article I posted below, HERE
or just google or whatever search engine you use the question 'is the US a democracy'
it is not.
I am well aware that those who prefer to remain ignorant in order to continue a nonsensical arguement and personal dislike of the man currently in the Whitehouse will most likely not bother to inform themselves. I am also aware that some do know that the arguement for the popular vote does not satisfy the actual expression of the country as a whole but could care less and will continue to pontificate and blow hot air
Contrary to catchy slogans, memes and other slick forms of electioneering, the government of the United States was never intended to be a pure democracy. In fact, most of the institutions today’s activists complain about were designed to thwart the pernicious effects of too much democracy. They’re anti-democratic by design. Rather than flaws that require remedy, these institutions were (and are) essential safeguards for individual liberty.
The Framers knew that in its pure form democracy could be dangerous. The writings of the founding era are replete with warnings of this fact:
For example, the Electoral College ensures that individuals elected to the presidency don’t only have the support of the population-heavy coasts, but broad support throughout the entire country. The function of the Electoral College is to respect and represent the states as sovereign entities within our federal system.
Likewise for the Senate. Each state is represented equally in the Senate, irrespective of population, size or prestige. As a check upon democratic extremes, the Senate was even more effective before the unfortunate enactment of the 17th Amendment in 1913 subjected senators to direct election by voters rather than by individual state legislatures.
Finally, the Supreme Court is perhaps the least democratic institution of all. The court’s members are given lifetime appointments by presidents elected via the Electoral College, subject to no democratic oversight or elections. Justices are called upon to decide cases and controversies according to what the law demands, not according to their personal preferences or the passions and prejudices of the electorate.
Lincoln understood the role our institutions play in tempering democracy’s excesses and ensuring deliberation, balance and stability. As he noted in an 1856 speech: “Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties. And not to Democrats alone do I make this appeal, but to all who love these great and true principles.”
The advocates for increased democracy would do well to remember Lincoln’s wise warning. Their demand for more democracy may stem from genuine concern and a desire for “progress.” But in seeking to undermine or cast aside the less democratic institutions of the American system, they show a vast misunderstanding and lack of appreciation for our unique system of government.
In the United States, the people rule, but only through institutions designed to protect the individual and minority from the tyranny of the majority. That system is worth protecting and preserving.
far more sound than some of the posts the last 5 or 6 pages. thankfully, people who were far wiser than the authors of some of those posts, understood the failure of the popular vote being representational of a country where the majority of the populace exists in less than half the states
sorry...actually not sorry...if that is over anyone's head
you can read the entire article I posted below, HERE
or just google or whatever search engine you use the question 'is the US a democracy'
it is not.
I am well aware that those who prefer to remain ignorant in order to continue a nonsensical arguement and personal dislike of the man currently in the Whitehouse will most likely not bother to inform themselves. I am also aware that some do know that the arguement for the popular vote does not satisfy the actual expression of the country as a whole but could care less and will continue to pontificate and blow hot air
Contrary to catchy slogans, memes and other slick forms of electioneering, the government of the United States was never intended to be a pure democracy. In fact, most of the institutions today’s activists complain about were designed to thwart the pernicious effects of too much democracy. They’re anti-democratic by design. Rather than flaws that require remedy, these institutions were (and are) essential safeguards for individual liberty.
The Framers knew that in its pure form democracy could be dangerous. The writings of the founding era are replete with warnings of this fact:
- “Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments,” Alexander Hamilton wrote. “If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship.”
- Thomas Jefferson lamented that “a democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51 percent of the people may take away the rights of the other 49.”
- James Madison argued that democracies “have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”
- John Adams concluded that democracy “never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”
For example, the Electoral College ensures that individuals elected to the presidency don’t only have the support of the population-heavy coasts, but broad support throughout the entire country. The function of the Electoral College is to respect and represent the states as sovereign entities within our federal system.
Likewise for the Senate. Each state is represented equally in the Senate, irrespective of population, size or prestige. As a check upon democratic extremes, the Senate was even more effective before the unfortunate enactment of the 17th Amendment in 1913 subjected senators to direct election by voters rather than by individual state legislatures.
Finally, the Supreme Court is perhaps the least democratic institution of all. The court’s members are given lifetime appointments by presidents elected via the Electoral College, subject to no democratic oversight or elections. Justices are called upon to decide cases and controversies according to what the law demands, not according to their personal preferences or the passions and prejudices of the electorate.
Lincoln understood the role our institutions play in tempering democracy’s excesses and ensuring deliberation, balance and stability. As he noted in an 1856 speech: “Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties. And not to Democrats alone do I make this appeal, but to all who love these great and true principles.”
The advocates for increased democracy would do well to remember Lincoln’s wise warning. Their demand for more democracy may stem from genuine concern and a desire for “progress.” But in seeking to undermine or cast aside the less democratic institutions of the American system, they show a vast misunderstanding and lack of appreciation for our unique system of government.
In the United States, the people rule, but only through institutions designed to protect the individual and minority from the tyranny of the majority. That system is worth protecting and preserving.
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Yes. That's my point of what gerrymandering is. You can't gerrymander an entire state in a Presidential election. It's not possible, but Susanna doesn't understand that. It's so easy to fall back and simply say "I don't have to explain to you".
It would be better to just admit that you were wrong about that, and wrong that President Trump has oppressed the american people in ANY way.
So instead of throwing around $5 political terms like gerrymander and oppression, without ANY basis, people should be silent, rather than use terms they don't understand.
It would be better to just admit that you were wrong about that, and wrong that President Trump has oppressed the american people in ANY way.
So instead of throwing around $5 political terms like gerrymander and oppression, without ANY basis, people should be silent, rather than use terms they don't understand.
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In all fairness I do not think that is what she meant, I think it was just not explicitly stated.
I agree though big concepts like oppression and or emotionally laden words like "hate" "disdain" really do not promote dispassionate discourse
I agree though big concepts like oppression and or emotionally laden words like "hate" "disdain" really do not promote dispassionate discourse
Susanna post 514- "But the electoral college is easily bypassed with gerrymandering."
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You have to start with premise that virtually all mainstream news media are simply an extension of the DNC. They have a goal of electing democrats and socialists.
They tried for 2 and a half yrs to get him with the Russia collusion nonsense. Only to uncover that it was obama and many in his administration who should be in prison for using the agencies of the Federal Government to spy on and attempt to frame an American citizen and Presidential candidate.
So they actually had meetings in places like the NY Times editorial board to switch gears away from impeachment talk and continuously tag him with "racist" or better yet "white supremacist".
A lot of ignorant lemmings listen to this nonsense, but the truth is, Trump has been awesome for minorities. He has achieved the LOWEST ever recorded unemployment for both black and hispanic Americans. He signed REAL prison reform, helping untold numbers of minorities, getting almost no press. He has personally intervened in helping individual black Americans numerous times. The list goes on and on.
Yet ANOTHER reason to re-elect him. By not, people are helping the media and hollywood elites, who truly DO hate him, and by extension, those who support him.
They tried for 2 and a half yrs to get him with the Russia collusion nonsense. Only to uncover that it was obama and many in his administration who should be in prison for using the agencies of the Federal Government to spy on and attempt to frame an American citizen and Presidential candidate.
So they actually had meetings in places like the NY Times editorial board to switch gears away from impeachment talk and continuously tag him with "racist" or better yet "white supremacist".
A lot of ignorant lemmings listen to this nonsense, but the truth is, Trump has been awesome for minorities. He has achieved the LOWEST ever recorded unemployment for both black and hispanic Americans. He signed REAL prison reform, helping untold numbers of minorities, getting almost no press. He has personally intervened in helping individual black Americans numerous times. The list goes on and on.
Yet ANOTHER reason to re-elect him. By not, people are helping the media and hollywood elites, who truly DO hate him, and by extension, those who support him.
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