DONE!

[pottersclay]

NO.....it is TRUTH that UNIFIES GOD's family.......!!!!!!!!

AND

TWO cannot walk together UNLESS AGREED <----GOD said this in his word.....personally I am sick of the compromise of the truth by so called believers for the sake of unity!!

Truth does not unifiy God's people. The only thing we all have in common is that we are all sinners and not worthy of Gods gift.
Truth is the unanswered question that Pilate asked Jesus himself.
You have come on here many time expressing your truth in controversial doctrine issues, which does not make it truth.
The Gospels as well as the Epistles open up great mysteries to many of us that mold and shape our belief. Only if we are open to the Holy Spirit are we corrected and exhorted towards the truth. Many do not allow the Holy Spirit to do his work.
Christ saves....him and him alone that is the truth. What man knows another man's heart?
I know and believe we will all stand corrected on many matters concerning doctrinal issues when we enter glory but then again what would that matter as the Bible itself becomes null and void.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Mt.24:13 But the one who endures (perseveres,hold out,stands firm) to the end will be saved..... Jesus's words!

Jesus is talking to tribulation saints, not the church as a whole.and he does not contradict himself

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I appreciate your response. Now I’m no lawyer or judge, but you stated verbatim, “If I also believed that my salvation is secured...” Then you stated, “I feel it is secure as promised...”

I apologize if I seem confrontational because that is not my intention, but I’m getting mixed signals.

It is only secured if he keeps the requirements in his view

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I understood saved to mean survive. You believe it to mean salvation. I’ll look into this further. Thank you for sharing.

Look at context, tribulation the end is when jesus returns.

 

[Lightskin]

The Gospels as well as the Epistles open up great mysteries to many of us that mold and shape our belief. Only if we are open to the Holy Spirit are we corrected and exhorted towards the truth. Many do not allow the Holy Spirit to do his work.

This is interesting because God is not the author of confusion, and yet here we are, unified in our belief that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, yet so many opposing views regarding salvation. I lean on Psalm 31:5, “God into your hands I commit my spirit” and go from there.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This can not be shared enough

24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

The requirement

1. Hear and believe (faith)

The result

1. Shall not come to judgment (great white throne)
2. Passed from death to life
3. HAS (not may have) ETERNAL life.

 

[dcontroversal]

I mean c'mon, if i also believed that my salvation is secured, i could bludgeon you to death without fearing any consequences.
I'm not misrepresenting anyone.

You are a walking talking contradiction, nor does your imaginary scenarios exist within the minds of true believers......

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This is interesting because God is not the author of confusion, and yet here we are, unified in our belief that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, yet so many opposing views regarding salvation. I lean on Psalm 31:5, “God into your hands I commit my spirit” and go from there.

Great advice

Commit to god our eternity, in this you have hope, without it you have nothing

 

[UnderGrace]

Truth does not unifiy God's people.

Actually Truth is profoundly unifying.

And Truth is knowable >>>> that was Pilate's faulty reasoning and mistake.

 

[dcontroversal]

just another one of the do as i say not as i do crowd!

The only things the salvation losers and workers for have.....

a. Imaginary, delusional scenarios that they accuse of like the idiotic post above #205
b. Hypocrisy
c. False, skewed doctrine
d. Rejected context, verb tense and a denial of the inspired word of God
e. Religion that binds
f. A total devaluation of Jesus, his work, promises and power
g. No hope that the bible sets forth.......

They have nothing to offer

 

[Lightskin]

It is only secured if he keeps the requirements in his view

I don’t want to speak for him but to me that does not seem like security, but I’m gaining understanding that many people hold the same view and they seem happy.

 

[UnderGrace]

The only things the salvation losers and workers for have.....

a. Imaginary, delusional scenarios that they accuse of like the idiotic post above #205
b. Hypocrisy
c. False, skewed doctrine
d. Rejected context, verb tense and a denial of the inspired word of God
e. Religion that binds
f. A total devaluation of Jesus, his work, promises and power
g. No hope that the bible sets forth.......

They have nothing to offer

And the annoying part is they want to drag us there with them!!

No thanks!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Why do you feel your salvation is not secure when Scripture states otherwise?

Because he states that salvation is a process and not done until the end.....of course this view makes the bible contradict itself, makes God, Jesus, Paul, John and others into liars, denies Greek verb tense, context, the inspired word of God....but hey....it makes good slaves to religion......

 

[dcontroversal]

Mt.24:13 But the one who endures (perseveres,hold out,stands firm) to the end will be saved..... Jesus's words!

Context means nothing to you hey?

I guess women are saved by having kids........

Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


Lady's just pop out a few and you make it.......

 

[dcontroversal]

I appreciate your response. Now I’m no lawyer or judge, but you stated verbatim, “If I also believed that my salvation is secured...” Then you stated, “I feel it is secure as promised...”

I apologize if I seem confrontational because that is not my intention, but I’m getting mixed signals.

Workers for and salvation losers constantly contradict themselves...........because that which they peddle CONTRADICTS the BIBLE...

 

[dcontroversal]

And the annoying part is they want to drag us there with them!!

No thanks!!

100% agree...........makes me think of ONE other entity that wants ALL men to perish........

 

[mailmandan]

And the annoying part is they want to drag us there with them!!

No thanks!!

Ever heard the expression, "misery loves company?"

 

[Lightskin]

This is interesting because God is not the author of confusion, and yet here we are, unified in our belief that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, yet so many opposing views regarding salvation. I lean on Psalm 31:5, “God into your hands I commit my spirit” and go from there.

On edit: I believe with all my being and lean on Scripture and the guidance of the Holy Spirit that our salvation is eternal, irrevocable and is a free gift received through having faith in Jesus Christ. It is not earned nor does it need to be maintained. Just my two cents.

 

[dcontroversal]

Truth does not unifiy God's people. The only thing we all have in common is that we are all sinners and not worthy of Gods gift.
Truth is the unanswered question that Pilate asked Jesus himself.
You have come on here many time expressing your truth in controversial doctrine issues, which does not make it truth.
The Gospels as well as the Epistles open up great mysteries to many of us that mold and shape our belief. Only if we are open to the Holy Spirit are we corrected and exhorted towards the truth. Many do not allow the Holy Spirit to do his work.
Christ saves....him and him alone that is the truth. What man knows another man's heart?
I know and believe we will all stand corrected on many matters concerning doctrinal issues when we enter glory but then again what would that matter as the Bible itself becomes null and void.

No offence, but if you believe that....I suggest you get on your knees, get right and then start studying.....it is TRUTH that UNIFIES believers.......and TWO cannot walk together unless agreed!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don’t want to speak for him but to me that does not seem like security, but I’m gaining understanding that many people hold the same view and they seem happy.

The pharisee was happy also