I never met anyone like that. What transpires in someone’s life for them to think in such a manner?
Not By Works
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Baby Christians have been baptized already.
If you mean water baptism, that plays no role in salvation.
If you mean baptism of the Holy spirit, that's part of being born again... So it already took place.
Correct...once judged and awarded ...saved...status it is for eternity. In the mean time we are ...born again...awaiting judgement.
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I am not sure you have all the requirements, You may be missing a few !
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Amen
If there is no assurance of heaven, Than is a perosn really saved? Of course not..
Your lack of intellectual biblical honesty and integrity states all there is to say.......when you can embrace the truth then engage me until then you blather = bloviated drivel....
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Yep
I been saying this all along, they can not hear us because they have us tagged into whatever they are taught or believe we think based on a keyword.
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It is sad.I understand.
A person I knew several years ago nearly lost their mindwhen they found out I believed once saved always saved.
Since then I actually like the stigma... but you are right, right off the bat I was accused of being a Calvinist but I take that as a good thing too, because it allows us to differentiate the true OSAS as presented here on this thread rather than the Calvinist version which has dominated people's biases.
A false convert is known by their doctrine.
But I do understand... we work hard to get the truth out against all the stigma.... however OSAS does carry a lot of baggage that is not really OSAS... one Google search will show that.
Like I said Satan never takes a day off.
I never knew OSAS was a tag, I just thought it was a shortcut for saying once a person has been saved, they are always saved (eternal life)
This is the only place I have ever been where people see OSAS, and scream calvinism, as if calvin is the one who thought up the thought of eternal life or security in christ.
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In church this morning we learned of a priest named mechizedek, I also was reminded of Ninevah and the people of canaan, to whom God told abraham would still be allowed to live in their land for 400 years because their sin was nto yet complete.
What bible did they have?
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Yes this makes a lot of sense to me...... NOT!!!
Salvation is received, not acquired, when we are born from above/regenerated,...... by what Jesus obtained.
Hebrews 9:12: “Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.”
At the end of the end of the day ONE must be saved to understand the word of GOD.....by his own words he is NOT SAVED yet.....so....by default we should not even think for one second that he knows what he is talking about.......end of story!
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The variations of false doctrine just keep coming it seems.
nothing that Hebrews root / works salvationist crowd makes any sense. they are contradiction billboard.
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So true... I really do not know how people function with those obvious contradictions.
It took three attempts at SUICIDE in ONLY A WEEK, the last week of 1977, before wave after wave of GUILT, came over me because of my utterly sinful lifestyle, and crying for a couple hours or more. I became a Baby Christian at 29 years of age, Surrendering to the LORD out of PURE GODLY LOVE for HIM, and an intense Hunger for the Teaching of the Word, grew inside of my newborn human spirit.
Prior to that I was raised as a Lutheran, attended Church Regularly, day dreamed through every sermon, rattled off the Memorized Order of Service, including the Apostles Creed, baptized in water as a infant; YET WAS NOT SAVED AT ALL. I would have argued with anybody that accused me of not being a REAL CHRISTIAN, even though I have no idea what the term Born Again even meant.