Not By Works
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It's not rocket science is it?
Mind you have us greacy gracers, ASOS and ES believers dont believe it.
We are too busy sitting on our fat backsides, preaching that works will not follow as a result of being saved, preaching that we can sin all we want and promoting it.
Of course you are saved if you continue to murder people, rob banks, have multiple affairs. Carry on after all Jesus died so you can continue this sinful lifestyle. Go for it and have fun.
After all we have never read Romans 5-6. We cross it out on our Bibles.
There are some mad scientists on this thread building rockets and using their own their own fuel to build it.
And it aint the greasy gracers.
Mind you have us greacy gracers, ASOS and ES believers dont believe it.
We are too busy sitting on our fat backsides, preaching that works will not follow as a result of being saved, preaching that we can sin all we want and promoting it.
Of course you are saved if you continue to murder people, rob banks, have multiple affairs. Carry on after all Jesus died so you can continue this sinful lifestyle. Go for it and have fun.
After all we have never read Romans 5-6. We cross it out on our Bibles.
There are some mad scientists on this thread building rockets and using their own their own fuel to build it.
And it aint the greasy gracers.
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Changes depending on the person who wants to attack a group of letters opposed to what the individual they are speaking with is actually saying...
Which is why I understand when people don't want to be lumped in a group...
The largest ones I have noticed I mentioned in my post.
1. <- false converts with no transformation being lumped in. (tares)
2. <- calvinist stigma
3. <- sinners prayer stigma (which I also believe is wrongly often tied to the word "baptist")
and people have tried to get me to defend these 3 things (as well as others)
Ignoring my words
and using a group of letters like osas to talk AROUND my words
Which is why I understand when people don't want to be lumped in a group...
The largest ones I have noticed I mentioned in my post.
1. <- false converts with no transformation being lumped in. (tares)
2. <- calvinist stigma
3. <- sinners prayer stigma (which I also believe is wrongly often tied to the word "baptist")
and people have tried to get me to defend these 3 things (as well as others)
Ignoring my words
and using a group of letters like osas to talk AROUND my words
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I understand.
A person I knew several years ago nearly lost their mind
when they found out I believed once saved always saved.
Since then I actually like the stigma... but you are right, right off the bat I was accused of being a Calvinist but I take that as a good thing too, because it allows us to differentiate the true OSAS as presented here on this thread rather than the Calvinist version which has dominated people's biases.
A false convert is known by their doctrine.
But I do understand... we work hard to get the truth out against all the stigma.... however OSAS does carry a lot of baggage that is not really OSAS... one Google search will show that.
Like I said Satan never takes a day off.
A person I knew several years ago nearly lost their mind
when they found out I believed once saved always saved.Since then I actually like the stigma... but you are right, right off the bat I was accused of being a Calvinist but I take that as a good thing too, because it allows us to differentiate the true OSAS as presented here on this thread rather than the Calvinist version which has dominated people's biases.
A false convert is known by their doctrine.
But I do understand... we work hard to get the truth out against all the stigma.... however OSAS does carry a lot of baggage that is not really OSAS... one Google search will show that.
Like I said Satan never takes a day off.
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Yes, the saved are saved. I must write more clearly to avoid such confusion. I certainly hope I did not write that the saved weren't saved, Please give me the post number where I wrote that, so I can do what I can to fix it. Thanks.
I am addressing the "I thought I was saved, only to find out I never was - ers"
I am addressing the "I thought I was saved, only to find out I never was - ers"
When I went to Seminary we used them to learn for our tests....same as being a Marine......I also used sayings to learn Greek......
we had a commercial over here that said I am saying, let go of my eggo <--a waffle
So in Greek.....I am saying λέγω my eggo <----the Greek word Lego is "I am saying"
and with the offerings....we used...
WHOLE MP SIN TRY hahahhah
Whole
meat
peace
sin
trespass
red heifer
Yom Kippur
we had a commercial over here that said I am saying, let go of my eggo <--a waffle
So in Greek.....I am saying λέγω my eggo <----the Greek word Lego is "I am saying"
and with the offerings....we used...
WHOLE MP SIN TRY hahahhah
Whole
meat
peace
sin
trespass
red heifer
Yom Kippur
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AWWWWW come on EG....we ll know the bible does not mean it....we must jump through spiritual hoops, speak in tongues, be immersed, sprinkled and take 3 showers a day, say 57 hail Marys, sing Amazing grace 76 times, do 37.5 works a day, never sin, or just mess up once in a while, back flip down the isle and then, just maybe we might be saved...........
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I understand.
A person I knew several years ago nearly lost their mind when they found out I believed once saved always saved.
Since then I actually like the stigma... but you are right, right off the bat I was accused of being a Calvinist but I take that as a good thing too, because it allows us to differentiate the true OSAS as presented here on this thread rather than the Calvinist version which has dominated people's biases.
A false convert is known by their doctrine.
But I do understand... we work hard to get the truth out against all the stigma.... however OSAS does carry a lot of baggage that is not really OSAS... one Google search will show that.
Like I said Satan never takes a day off.
A person I knew several years ago nearly lost their mind
when they found out I believed once saved always saved.Since then I actually like the stigma... but you are right, right off the bat I was accused of being a Calvinist but I take that as a good thing too, because it allows us to differentiate the true OSAS as presented here on this thread rather than the Calvinist version which has dominated people's biases.
A false convert is known by their doctrine.
But I do understand... we work hard to get the truth out against all the stigma.... however OSAS does carry a lot of baggage that is not really OSAS... one Google search will show that.
Like I said Satan never takes a day off.
Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault ye which are spiritual restore such an one in the spirit of meekness, considering thyself lest thou also be tempted, 2 Bear ye one anothers burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something when he is nothing he deceiveth himself 4 But let every man prove his own work and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone and not in another. 5 for every man shall bear his own burden 6 Be not deceived, God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption, but he that soweth to the spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
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i wouldn't call people who get a 'list of contradictions' from an atheist website and copy-paste them angrily at believers, 'studying the Bible'
so, i'd say that percentage is very very very low. and if they don't believe, how useful is it that they study, since they don't understand what they are reading? i guess, if they do come to a knowledge of the truth, they passages aren't unfamiliar when they go back to 'study them again'
so, i'd say that percentage is very very very low. and if they don't believe, how useful is it that they study, since they don't understand what they are reading? i guess, if they do come to a knowledge of the truth, they passages aren't unfamiliar when they go back to 'study them again'
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@DeighAnn...Jeremiah 15:16 is one of my favs. Praise be to Him, though...if one is illiterate or does not have the word available, our God is able to reveal Himself. Even creation itself testifies, right? I love the living powerful word of God. I am so thankful for education and access, and now technology that has made it not only possible but convenient to dig in deeper; consuming His word is such a Heavenly privilege.
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