Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[Deade]

Your point is not clear to me why you believe that I need to take your advice about how to carry on a conversation I am having with other people other than yourself please clear this up for me?

Obviously, English is not your first language. You seem to be slinging untruths around and standing on them like they were seeds planted by God.

Got much ego? You can't even tell others are not getting the drift of your conversation. Learn English, or go minister in another place where your language is spoken.

 

[DeighAnn]

How do you repent from the Word not being within you to keep you from disobeying it?

Do you repent yourself?

 

[SimpleGardner]

I would word the question in Spirit and Truth all I can do is plant the seed it is God that gives the increase not I.

You are not coming across as a mystic who should be revered, more like a Pharisee who is trying to trap someone with fuliginous speak, Deade beat me to it! Gotta love it when peope just want to get right to it! Follow his lead.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The truth is if you disobey the Word then that Word is not within you the first step to repenting from this would be to stop denying the truth which is when you disobey the Word it is not within you.

I notice that you are relatively new here, but you are inventing your own theology. When a Christian sins (disobeys the Word) it does not mean that the Word of God is not within that person. What is does mean that he or she has allowed the old nature -- "the flesh" -- to take control and the Word is not effective. This is what the apostle John is teaching in this passage.

1 JOHN 1:6-10; 2:1-5
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also forthe sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

 

[Iroaou]

Do you repent yourself?

You are not coming across as a mystic who should be revered, more like a Pharisee who is trying to trap someone with fuliginous speak, Deade beat me to it! Gotta love it when peope just want to get right to it! Follow his lead.

I notice that you are relatively new here, but you are inventing your own theology. When a Christian sins (disobeys the Word) it does not mean that the Word of God is not within that person. What is does mean that he or she has allowed the old nature -- "the flesh" -- to take control and the Word is not effective. This is what the apostle John is teaching in this passage.

1 JOHN 1:6-10; 2:1-5
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also forthe sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

The truth is if you disobey the Word then that Word is not within you the first step to repenting from this would be to stop denying the truth which is when you disobey the Word it is not within you.

 

[Iroaou]

Do you repent yourself?

I never ever no matter what whatsoever deny the truth.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The truth is if you disobey the Word then that Word is not within you the first step to repenting from this would be to stop denying the truth which is when you disobey the Word it is not within you.

Now you are showing your true colors by regurgitating what you already said. The burden of proof is on you to show a Bible verse that actually teaches what you are claiming. The next thing you might come up with is that if any Christian sins he or she is not saved.

 

[SimpleGardner]

Obviously, English is not your first language. You seem to be slinging untruths around and standing on them like they were seeds planted by God.

Got much ego? You can't even tell others are not getting the drift of your conversation. Learn English, or go minister in another place where your language is spoken.

The emoji need a tune to it!

Appreciated your directness brother. Hope I can count on you if I ever get too big for my britches.

If you just flashed that emoji with a line like; "You want a fresh one!" that would do it!

SG

 

[Iroaou]

Now you are showing your true colors by regurgitating what you already said. The burden of proof is on you to show a Bible verse that actually teaches what you are claiming. The next thing you might come up with is that if any Christian sins he or she is not saved.

Exactly what part of what I have said that you need proof that it is the truth please point that out to me.

 

[SimpleGardner]

Exactly what part of what I have said that you need proof that it is the truth please point that out to me.

Hey Iroaou,

Noone is saying you don't have anything to contribute, but you need to speak straight! If you cannot perhaps you need to study more in order to lay it out more plainly.

I like the quote;

"If you can't explain it simply you don't know it well enough" I think that was Albert Einstein

Hope that helps.

SG

 

[Iroaou]

Hey Iroaou,

Noone is saying you don't have anything to contribute, but you need to speak straight! If you cannot perhaps you need to study more in order to lay it out more plainly.

I like the quote;

"If you can't explain it simply you don't know it well enough"

Hope that helps.

SG

Jesus taught using parables I on the other hand speak to them that have ears that can hear my speech and God gives the increase.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Exactly what part of what I have said that you need proof that it is the truth please point that out to me.

Here is what you have been harping on: "...when you disobey the Word it is not within you". PROVE IT FROM SCRIPTURE OR RETRACT IT.

To take your words literally, we would have to believe that suddenly the knowledge and content of the Scriptures EVAPORATES from a person who disobeys the Word. So where is the passage which teaches such nonsense?

 

[Iroaou]

Here is what you have been harping on: "...when you disobey the Word it is not within you". PROVE IT FROM SCRIPTURE OR RETRACT IT.

To take your words literally, we would have to believe that suddenly the knowledge and content of the Scriptures EVAPORATES from a person who disobeys the Word. So where is the passage which teaches such nonsense?

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

 

[posthuman]

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

greets @ioanna welcome to CC

You shall not revile God, nor curse a ruler of your people.
(Exodus 22:28)​

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
(Matthew 23:33)
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what is your opinion about what's going on here?
how is it Jesus curses the rulers of the people, but is without sin?
even at the same time He pronounces all this against them, He tells the people to obey them because they sit in the seat of Moses ((Matthew 23:2-3)). but Paul cites Exodus 22:28 apologizing for reviling the high priest ((Acts 23:4-5)).

what is Jesus doing? He appears to be in disobedience to the law, because He is speaking ill against the leadership - but He is not. He is guiltless, and perfect.
i'm interested to know what's your opinion?

 

[posthuman]

greets @ioanna welcome to CC

haha oops, meant to say @Iroaou

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[Grandpa]

Now I am not going to tell you, that will teach you

You're going to let me rely on Google?

That's getting me back for accusing you guys of being the blind leaders of the blind, isn't it? A little taste of my own medicine? Not nice. That seems like something a Goyim would do...

 

[Grandpa]

It isn't the law that is the problem. It is the sin. The law is glorious. Sin is bad. Sin is transgression of the law. SIN=BAD LAW=GOOD. Go write that 10 billion times and then come back and we will talk.

That's too many times.

But the Law is a problem. For us. Not because it is bad. Because it Commands Perfection. And we don't have the strength or the understanding to be Perfect.

We need Supernatural Spiritual help.

Romans 7:18-24
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

 

[Yahshua]

greets @ioanna welcome to CC

​

You shall not revile God, nor curse a ruler of your people.​

(Exodus 22:28)​

​

You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?​

(Matthew 23:33) ​

​

what is your opinion about what's going on here?
how is it Jesus curses the rulers of the people, but is without sin?
even at the same time He pronounces all this against them, He tells the people to obey them because they sit in the seat of Moses ((Matthew 23:2-3)). but Paul cites Exodus 22:28 apologizing for reviling the high priest ((Acts 23:4-5)).

what is Jesus doing? He appears to be in disobedience to the law, because He is speaking ill against the leadership - but He is not. He is guiltless, and perfect.
i'm interested to know what's your opinion?

 

[SimpleGardner]

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I was trying to count how many times he jumped rope but lost count. I will try later. Thanks

 

[Nehemiah6]

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1. That does NOT say what you have been stating. It does not say that the Word evaporates from that person as soon as he disobeys.

2. That does NOT contradict what I posted from 1 John 1 & 2.

3. That passage needs to be properly understood in the light of all Scripture. It is a reference to HABITUALLY SINNING which would mean that this person has not been saved. He has neither seen Christ with his spiritual eyes, nor has he known Christ as dwelling within -- "Christ in you the hope of glory".