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jaybird88 said:
im not a mind reader, can we break the law yes or no? third time now.
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No your a game player

if someone says they can not keep the law. By logic it meant they will
Continue to break the law

If you want to continue playing games we will no longer continue

Also multiple times now I have given you three passages which prove 1 sin is considered breaking the law. Will you respond to that please
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
No your a game player

if someone says they can not keep the law. By logic it meant they will
Continue to break the law

If you want to continue playing games we will no longer continue

Also multiple times now I have given you three passages which prove 1 sin is considered breaking the law. Will you respond to that please
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no games, im asking a simple yes or no question and your giving me all kind of dodge responses yet no answer. why will you not answer?

you break a law its a sin, i never said different.
 
jaybird88 said:
"apart from Jesus" can mean many things to many people. i asked about those that never heard of Jesus, Judaism, the bible. is there forgiveness for them?

what Moses, James and Paul said about what?
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Jesus death was for mankind from Adam until the last man.

That’s a fact. No matter what you say

Answer my questions or go away I am sick of these games you people play
 
jaybird88 said:
no games, im asking a simple yes or no question and your giving me all kind of dodge responses yet no answer. why will you not answer?

you break a law its a sin, i never said different.
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Lol

Ok I am done

I guess your education level is not up to par?

If we can not keep the law. We will break it

If I say will is that not yes

Your question is not even valid.

We can not keep the law as required there is no yes or no about it. If you can’t keep it. It means you will break it
 
jaybird88 said:
"apart from Jesus" can mean many things to many people. i asked about those that never heard of Jesus, Judaism, the bible. is there forgiveness for them?

what Moses, James and Paul said about what?
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Does it matter? Is there any other way under heaven whereby we must be saved?

Moses Paul and James said 1 sin causes ya to be cursed by the law are they correct or not
 
jaybird88 said:
im not a mind reader, can we break the law yes or no? third time now.
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You can’t keep the law

If you can’t keep the law. You WILL BREAK THE LAW (how many times do I have to say this?)

Thus your question is invalid. Not only can we break it. ( ie..Yes we can break it) we can not keep it. If you think you can you think you are perfect. And have no sin

But I guess you do not understand math and you will still say I did not answer it.
 
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For the record

It is NOT ok to break the law. That is what someone is trying to get me to say. That is not tue. And if he comes and says I think it is ok to break the law, he is a liar
 
eternally-gratefull said:
When you are banned, you are told not to come back in for at least a year.

When you come back in under a different name to “defeat the system” you are in sin.

He admonishes sin, yet he excuses his own sin, remember that man has been here for a few years. Just ask people about him.
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I DO NOT ask anyone about a person! I pray for ALL here! Heaven isn't going to be segregated,nor will ANY sin inhabit it. Jesus judges by His righteousness,we judge according to OUR OWN! I would pray that EVERYONE here know Jesus as their personaL SAVIOUR,and that all be filled with the Holy Spirit,and His FRUIT! WE ALL NEED TO EXAMINE OURSELVES BY HIS MEASURING STICK.......THE WORD! If I like a post I will continue to agree with said post. I do NOT walk in darkness for I have illumination in Jesus,who is the light,and the Holy Spirit as my guide!
 
Leastamongmany said:
I DO NOT ask anyone about a person! I pray for ALL here! Heaven isn't going to be segregated,nor will ANY sin inhabit it. Jesus judges by His righteousness,we judge according to OUR OWN! I would pray that EVERYONE here know Jesus as their personaL SAVIOUR,and that all be filled with the Holy Spirit,and His FRUIT! WE ALL NEED TO EXAMINE OURSELVES BY HIS MEASURING STICK.......THE WORD! If I like a post I will continue to agree with said post. I do NOT walk in darkness for I have illumination in Jesus,who is the light,and the Holy Spirit as my guide!
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I agree and hope the same

However you do not enable habitual sinners. The Bible tells us what to do with them
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Well let’s see

If I said we can not keep the law what do you think the answer is

Your a game player dude.
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You agree breaking the law after accepting Jesus is not ok, am I correct

But you also believe you and me can not keep the law. Mean we are law breaker. Even when we are born again and god give us new heart we still law breaker

So base on your premis, stealing, murder etc go to heaven as long as born again, am I correct?

I think you not agree with apostle Paul that say stealing not go to heaven
If I am wrong how you explain why?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 
Jackson123 said:
You agree breaking the law after accepting Jesus is not ok, am I correct

But you also believe you and me can not keep the law. Mean we are law breaker. Even when we are born again and god give us new heart we still law breaker

So base on your premis, stealing, murder etc go to heaven as long as born again, am I correct?

I think you not agree with apostle Paul that say stealing not go to heaven
If I am wrong how you explain why?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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A true believer cover by the blood of Jesus is none of those things above, even if the believer does those things. The terms used in those verses apply only to UNSAVED people because the blood does not cover their sins.
 
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Jackson123 said:
You agree breaking the law after accepting Jesus is not ok, am I correct

But you also believe you and me can not keep the law. Mean we are law breaker. Even when we are born again and god give us new heart we still law breaker

So base on your premis, stealing, murder etc go to heaven as long as born again, am I correct?

I think you not agree with apostle Paul that say stealing not go to heaven
If I am wrong how you explain why?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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When you realize that the standard of the law is perfection. You realize you are bankrupt. Then and only then can you come to Christ poor in spirit
 
jaybird88 said:
IMO i dont thnk so, James is teaching not to cherry pick the laws. every man has different temptations, one may never steal anything ever yet always cheating on his wife and vice versa for someone else. James even says in that same teaching:
9But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
partial is being bias.
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You are not able to keep the law to be save. law demands you do all if you don't you cannot be save. In our case, we can't do it, Christ alone did it. Paul summarizes, we cannot be save by doing the Law.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I agree and hope the same

However you do not enable habitual sinners. The Bible tells us what to do with them
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This is what to do as per scriptures:

2 Corinthians 6:16-18 King James Version (KJV)
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Touching the unclean thing is such a serious matter before the Lord. If you are already a child of God, God gave you the discernment to where you will stand. Either to the enemy line or in the Lord's side. Somebody has to make a stand! Well, I am standing of the Solid Rock!

God bless
 
Leastamongmany said:
Yes it does FORGIVENESS AND LOVE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS! If we cannot help someone as per Jesus love commandment,it is BETTER to walk away!
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The Loved of God shown by Christ at Calvary not only covers but washes all away sins. Well, for a real saved, what he/she is all about to share is the washing away of the sins by Christ which is a better way. Covering of sin is temporary OT way.

God bless
 
fredoheaven said:
The Loved of God shown by Christ at Calvary not only covers but washes all away sins. Well, for a real saved, what he/she is all about to share is the washing away of the sins by Christ which is a better way. Covering of sin is temporary OT way.

God bless
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I did Not say it James did in 5:20,as did Peter in 1 Pet 4:8
 
KJV1611 said:
A true believer cover by the blood of Jesus is none of those things above, even if the believer does those things. The terms used in those verses apply only to UNSAVED people because the blood does not cover their sins.
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So you believe that it is ok for believer to steal?

You only believe stealing for unbeliever not inherit the kingdom?

My friend, for non believer whether he steal or not, not inherit the kingdom
 
Jackson123 said:
So you believe that it is ok for believer to steal?

You only believe stealing for unbeliever not inherit the kingdom?

My friend, for non believer whether he steal or not, not inherit the kingdom
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I’m saying that if your a Christian then God does not consider a liar nor a fornicator even if you fornicate or lie which all of have and still do at least one of those.
 
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