Discernment in visions and dreams

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Dino246

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Can also mean original poster ;)

All in the context. There is an internet split on what OP means lol.
... and here I thought it meant "opinionated person".

Naah... none of those around here. ;)
 
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oh...I gotz a stalker too now

maybe he got it out of his system yesterday though

you know the type...putting x's on my posts or likes on posts of people he would normally not agree with but because they were disagreeing with me they got a like

he needs some virtual crayons...actually that could be a thing here :LOL:
Virtual crayons.

Lol
 

Mii

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there is nothing in the post to suggest any sort of questioning as to whether or not that person has any difficulty distinguishing

there is no indication of understanding of any sort of biblical comprehension or for that matter salvation

they said God told them to love a demon for pete sakes

please use some discernment

I'm not scolding you. I am trying to protect you from the garbage they wrote
Well tis my first negative reaction so I will think on it. I have appreciated your input so far and I do value it.

I'm struggling with whether or not there is any merit in the middle road approach to people that are searching. Previously I was on a "harm reduction" forum and I do feel like there are things to be said to someone that is in doubt whether they realize it or not. Possibly that is the lukewarm approach to a situation. I do not know. I just know that there are certain conversations that I've both encouraged and rebuked people with scripture and I sense a searching heart so I'm not quick to pass judgement. Usually the connection that I thought was an open door just falls off because I am not sure of what their motivation is and they don't really seem interested enough to search me out, and a deep hunger/thirst isn't there. I once heard a story of an AA meeting above a bar for anyone that really wants it...and that approach is out there but the word appears to be completely contrary to that and yet it is prevalent in some ministries.

Like when someone who comes to a belief in Yeshua and I see a lot of changes and truly they "feel" different to me. Or possibly in my excitement I misread them I don't know. I share things, they share things. Then when I hear things completely off I just kind of shut down a little bit and wonder if they are just in the process or possibly on "christian carnival rides" of the enemy's devising that are designed to shut out truth. I could be reading too deep into it. Things get confusing for me personally.

I didn't fully quantify the post because I had to go to work and I was being a tad bit hasty. I seem to keep being "almost" late because I get distracted on here lol.


Anyway, I appreciate it.
 
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Rev 10:4 When the seven thunders spoke, I was going to write, but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said, and don't write it down."

I think absolutely went offline which I am going to do now too.
Yes it where the catch phrase "seven thunders" comes from the end of voice of the waters as the unrevealed glory of God. . The seven thunders would coincide with seals. Seven, the perfect/complete law of God Judgment.

Its the end of new prophecy nothing else needs to be added. The thunder is the warning not to add or subtract from the perfect.

Psalm 29 Give unto the Lord, O ye mighty, give unto the Lord glory and strength. Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name; worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness. The voice of the Lord is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the Lord is upon many waters.
 
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I get that but I still don’t know why you mentioned prophecy in this thread, what’s in the text above doesn’t quite match what the OP said.

when someone starts believing in an afterlife, it’s a new revaluation, revaluation is not some forbidden word no one can use.

The dreams revealed in scripture are prophecy one of the many manner God spoke to a few 2 or3 selected individual to progress the gospel .Daniel had to interpret another persons dream which he knew nothing of .Supernatural .. . not of every day dreams used to heal our corrupted fleshly minds.

For a Christian to start believing in after life. It is defined by prophecy the one source of Christian faith and not by dreams .

Speculating in voluntary humility of things not seen opens up a can of worms .Its why Jesus said in Mathew 4 three times "as it is written" not as you dreamed it .He would have nothing to do with worshiping fallen angels

Colossians 2:17-19 (ERV)
In the past these things were like a shadow that showed what was coming. But the new things that were coming are found in Christ. Some people enjoy acting as if they are humble and love to worship angels. They always talk about the visions they have seen. Don’t listen to them when they say you are wrong because you don’t do these things. It is so foolish for them to feel such pride, because it is all based on their own human ideas.They don’t keep themselves under the control of the head. Christ is the head, and the whole body depends on him. Because of Christ all the parts of the body care for each other and help each other. So the body is made stronger and held together as God causes it to grow.
 
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@PennEd @Absolutely @7seasrekeyed

What is going on between all of you?!!!! :unsure:
I cant see what he writes.
I only happened upon his mischief when i opened the board without signing in.

Why,is he on his toxicity mode or something?

I am fine with him in the abstract. He should put me on ignore for relief of his distress.
 
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no there was not

garee does not believe in the spiritual gifts and for some reason, confuses prophecy with just about anything

he would be happy to explain that to you though

right garee? :)
Not today.....Wrong, "7seasrekeyed. It would seem you have no idea what prophecy the tongue of God is.

Garee believes in "spiritual gifts "not seen the eternal "(can't see a spirit) called walking by faith (the unseen) .Sign gifts is not a Biblical teaching.

Signs as metaphors are used in parables that follow after as a whole (all the signs or none) . .But I moved made a noise or fell backward and that confirms I have the Holy Spirit. No such thing.

Again you will not find the words sign gift used together. Signs are for those who believe not prophecy according to the law of signs.(1 Corinthian 14:22-23

Mark 16:16-18 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV) Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. But those who do not believe will be judged guilty. And the people who believe will be able to do these things as proof: They will use my name to force demons out of people. They will speak in languages they never learned. If they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be hurt. (by false doctrine poison) They will lay their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
 

stonesoffire

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Yes it where the catch phrase "seven thunders" comes from the end of voice of the waters as the unrevealed glory of God. . The seven thunders would coincide with seals. Seven, the perfect/complete law of God Judgment.

Its the end of new prophecy nothing else needs to be added. The thunder is the warning not to add or subtract from the perfect.

Psalm 29 Give unto the Lord, O ye mighty, give unto the Lord glory and strength. Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name; worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness. The voice of the Lord is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the Lord is upon many waters.
God is still speaking to men Garee. But, I won’t argue with you about it. 😉
 
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did I miss something was there a prophecy given in the dream?
Other than the dreams that are revealed as prophecy, the supernatural no. Not talking about our every day dreams...natural God healing our fleshly corrupted minds. . they are not a source of Christian faith.

We compare the spiritual understanding to the spiritual not seen as one source of faith . iI we would widen the authority to include dreams we make the scriptures without effect. Can't serve two teaching masters...

Two choices. Guided by dreams or guided by prophecy?

Jude 8 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV) It is the same way with these people who have entered your group. They are guided by dreams. They make themselves dirty with sin. They reject God’s authority and say bad things against the glorious ones
 

shittim

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Yes, Stonesof fire, just as he says, he is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
Absolutely- I wasn't aware we had an "ignore" function available, thank you. I have been on other forums where the ignore function was able to make it usable.
 
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Well tis my first negative reaction so I will think on it. I have appreciated your input so far and I do value it.

I'm struggling with whether or not there is any merit in the middle road approach to people that are searching. Previously I was on a "harm reduction" forum and I do feel like there are things to be said to someone that is in doubt whether they realize it or not. Possibly that is the lukewarm approach to a situation. I do not know. I just know that there are certain conversations that I've both encouraged and rebuked people with scripture and I sense a searching heart so I'm not quick to pass judgement. Usually the connection that I thought was an open door just falls off because I am not sure of what their motivation is and they don't really seem interested enough to search me out, and a deep hunger/thirst isn't there. I once heard a story of an AA meeting above a bar for anyone that really wants it...and that approach is out there but the word appears to be completely contrary to that and yet it is prevalent in some ministries.

Like when someone who comes to a belief in Yeshua and I see a lot of changes and truly they "feel" different to me. Or possibly in my excitement I misread them I don't know. I share things, they share things. Then when I hear things completely off I just kind of shut down a little bit and wonder if they are just in the process or possibly on "christian carnival rides" of the enemy's devising that are designed to shut out truth. I could be reading too deep into it. Things get confusing for me personally.

I didn't fully quantify the post because I had to go to work and I was being a tad bit hasty. I seem to keep being "almost" late because I get distracted on here lol.


Anyway, I appreciate it.
"Christian carnival rides"
Lol

I shall borrow that.....lol
 
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Yes, Stonesof fire, just as he says, he is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
Absolutely- I wasn't aware we had an "ignore" function available, thank you. I have been on other forums where the ignore function was able to make it usable.
Just click the name next to the avie.

For me it is a blessing.
I can end striving and continue in peace
 
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God is still speaking to men Garee. But, I won’t argue with you about it. 😉
I would not argue with that .That was not my point.

Yes he that dwells in the believer speaks through his word... comparing His word to His word .Not our dreams to our dreams or our experiences to the same. . As far as bringing new revelation this silent period 2000 years ...un-like the 400 years between the old and new testament. We will not receiving any more .The last book is Revelation. We have the perfect will of God with no laws missing by which we could now him more intimately . We now can seek his face in light of His perfect knowledge (prophecy)
 

stonesoffire

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I would not argue with that .That was not my point.

Yes he that dwells in the believer speaks through his word... comparing His word to His word .Not our dreams to our dreams or our experiences to the same. . As far as bringing new revelation this silent period 2000 years ...un-like the 400 years between the old and new testament. We will not receiving any more .The last book is Revelation. We have the perfect will of God with no laws missing by which we could now him more intimately . We now can seek his face in light of His perfect knowledge (prophecy)
Paul said he was one born out of time. The revelations and mysteries that he heard while in the presence of God was not for his time.

They are for us in the last of these last days. It will take a “circumcised ear, hearing” to know.