Discernment in visions and dreams
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God is not bringing new prophecy after any manner, to include dreams, vision or a tongue. The church was warned before hand that new revelations that we had in part would cease.The last revelation is found in the last book
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, "if it were possible", they shall deceive the very elect.Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.Mathew24:23-26
Why will the elect not be deceived (impossible) other than they will no go above that which is written protecting the integrity of the word ?
The perfect has come.
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.1 Corinthains13:8-10
My question is do we need more than what he has given us? Is there a law missing by which we could know him more intimately? If not why seek after a sign rather than walking by fiaith
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, "if it were possible", they shall deceive the very elect.Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.Mathew24:23-26
Why will the elect not be deceived (impossible) other than they will no go above that which is written protecting the integrity of the word ?
The perfect has come.
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.1 Corinthains13:8-10
My question is do we need more than what he has given us? Is there a law missing by which we could know him more intimately? If not why seek after a sign rather than walking by fiaith
Verified experience proves otherwise
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.Mathew 4:7-10
It is wriitten .....Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility( I will see things that are not there) and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossains2:18
Healing our psyche through dreams is like breathing oxygen you cannot see it but it keep us moving.
Why go above that which is written? Perhaps missing a law of interpretation by which we could know God more intimately.?
@Absolutely, 
Perhaps we're misunderstanding each other - not sure what you mean by saying I'm pushing "SAMENESS."
I'll try to clarify for you......
First, let me say that I understand what you are saying about how God can at times instruct someone to do something that "appears" to go against what the scriptures say, such as telling Hosea to marry a prostitute and later buy her back - this seems strange and out of character for God but, it was how God chose to reprimand Israel about their spiritual harlotry and adultery while also demonstrating His love to redeem them.
Do you see though, that the "meaning and the message" of the final outcome did NOT contradict God's Word - we are not to practice harlotry or adultery and it is God's plan to forgive and redeem us.
God instructing Peter to rise up, kill and eat things that were unlawful for him to eat according to dietary laws. Yet, the "meaning and the message" was to receive Gentiles which was according to God's timing because Isaiah in the scriptures had prophesied it many years prior that a great light would be given to the Gentiles. The "meaning and the message" did NOT contradict God's Word.
Second, you mention New Revelation being given - Yes, there can always be new revelation given yet, the "meaning and the message" will not contradict God's Word - at times God says, "Behold, I'm doing a new thing..." but, the meaning and the message is still in accordance to His Word.
The "meaning and the message" of a dream or vision, if from God will not lead or instruct a person to turn away from Yeshua/Jesus or deny Him as Lord, Savior, and King, it will not present any other way of salvation, .... these would be contrary to The Word of God because the Bible is all about Yeshua/Jesus - it all testifies of Him.
Perhaps we're misunderstanding each other - not sure what you mean by saying I'm pushing "SAMENESS."
I'll try to clarify for you......
First, let me say that I understand what you are saying about how God can at times instruct someone to do something that "appears" to go against what the scriptures say, such as telling Hosea to marry a prostitute and later buy her back - this seems strange and out of character for God but, it was how God chose to reprimand Israel about their spiritual harlotry and adultery while also demonstrating His love to redeem them.
Do you see though, that the "meaning and the message" of the final outcome did NOT contradict God's Word - we are not to practice harlotry or adultery and it is God's plan to forgive and redeem us.
God instructing Peter to rise up, kill and eat things that were unlawful for him to eat according to dietary laws. Yet, the "meaning and the message" was to receive Gentiles which was according to God's timing because Isaiah in the scriptures had prophesied it many years prior that a great light would be given to the Gentiles. The "meaning and the message" did NOT contradict God's Word.
Second, you mention New Revelation being given - Yes, there can always be new revelation given yet, the "meaning and the message" will not contradict God's Word - at times God says, "Behold, I'm doing a new thing..." but, the meaning and the message is still in accordance to His Word.
The "meaning and the message" of a dream or vision, if from God will not lead or instruct a person to turn away from Yeshua/Jesus or deny Him as Lord, Savior, and King, it will not present any other way of salvation, .... these would be contrary to The Word of God because the Bible is all about Yeshua/Jesus - it all testifies of Him.
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Those Hosea actions , and there were many other, Isaiah going bare-neked for 3 years, cooking his food over disgusting stuff, those were old testament days , we are reborn IN CHRIST and He indwells us, John 16 Jesus is giving His going away instructions and He tells us when Holy Spirit comes He will guide, speak and show, all things the old testament prophets and others were given at times and on certain people as He willed, now that same Holy Spirit is given to each of us who are born-again and Spirit Filled.
Just as Peter and John imparted to the beggar, "silver and gold have we none, but what we have we freely impart".
Our personal relationship with Him is experienced we don't just talk about Him and the Father, we experience Them, we "keep our minds stayed on Hi, and responds as he said He would, He will guide, speak, and show, words of knowledge, dreams and visions, guidance by Spirit.
"Outward form" Christians like to beat people up with their Bible "knowledge", walking in the Spirit produces "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness and self control".
We can beat each other with scripture or we can experience what He died to bring us,
blessings
Just as Peter and John imparted to the beggar, "silver and gold have we none, but what we have we freely impart".
Our personal relationship with Him is experienced we don't just talk about Him and the Father, we experience Them, we "keep our minds stayed on Hi, and responds as he said He would, He will guide, speak, and show, words of knowledge, dreams and visions, guidance by Spirit.
"Outward form" Christians like to beat people up with their Bible "knowledge", walking in the Spirit produces "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness and self control".
We can beat each other with scripture or we can experience what He died to bring us,
blessings
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excuse me...actually I don't care if you or you don't
you either made up that post, #116, or you are in heaps of trouble or you are not a Christian
pick one
maybe no one here ever dealt with your practices, but they are not of God and frankly I am not convince you are simply making it all up for attention or whatever kicks you get out of it
no Christian will be doing what you say you do
I don't have demons in my dreams and probably no angels either
you say you were loving a demon...that is utter garbage and you say God told you to love it. that is worse than garbage. that alone indicates a demon talking to you
there was only one way Jesus dealt with demons. and it had nothing to do with love
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we should not confuse our walks with OT prophets
we now have the Holy Spirit IN us and that is a totally separate walk. we can speak to Jesus or pray in His name any time we want and we do not and mostly should not, have to consult a prophet for God's will....that's another thread.
walking in the Spirit does not mean hitting people with the Bible or passing judgement and thinking they may not be saved because you personally do not understand how some things work
I do not believe the Bible was ever meant for the framework of every single walk otherwise we would not be parts of one body but we would be a brick wall...immovable and everyone doing the same thing. we are called living stones. people can think on that
I am a stickler when it comes to biblical doctrine, but that defines behavior and belief...not a personal walk, which we are called to
so I agree with the points in your post
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God ells us he is the same yesterday, today and forever, what he will do for one, he will do for another, that is what is meant by his nor being a "respecter of persons".
"I am a stickler when it comes to biblical doctrine, but that defines behavior and belief...not a personal walk, which we are called to "
If we are Christs' we are hidden in Him , we not longer have our own opinion, or in this case we no longer are "sticklers when it comes to doctrine", we don't have an opinion, we have a position, and it is based on the word of G-d, no ones "doctrine" died for my sin the person of Jesus Christ did. You represent what and "outward form "Christian would say and do.
I didn't put down "points" I posted what the Bible tells us, I did not lean on my own understanding, I acknowledged Him, and He made the path straight.
"I am a stickler when it comes to biblical doctrine, but that defines behavior and belief...not a personal walk, which we are called to "
If we are Christs' we are hidden in Him , we not longer have our own opinion, or in this case we no longer are "sticklers when it comes to doctrine", we don't have an opinion, we have a position, and it is based on the word of G-d, no ones "doctrine" died for my sin the person of Jesus Christ did. You represent what and "outward form "Christian would say and do.
I didn't put down "points" I posted what the Bible tells us, I did not lean on my own understanding, I acknowledged Him, and He made the path straight.
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is English your first language?
I don't know what else would excuse the way you have responded
I was agreeing with you and you come back with insults
perhaps I actually do not agree with you since you think doctrine is a bad word
Jesus dying on our behalf is doctrine. the Trinity is doctrine. the gifts of the Holy Spirit is doctrine. salvation is doctrine
point does not mean a list. it means I agree with what you said.
smh big time
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God definately speaks in visions and dreams. I’ve had so many it’s hard to keep
count. God is not restricted in the way he speaks to a person.
Recently for example I had a dream about a person in church, that she was shaking
hands happily chatting to people in church, but in the dream I knew there was
something wrong with her but no one else knew.
So in reality the next day, I texted her to ask if she was ok and I said I had a dream
in which she appeared to be okay but she wasn’t.
She was stunned and texted back to say she had severe anxiety and was having
panic attacks. We arranged to meet up and had a good long chat. She has since been
to see her doctor.
That was definitely a God moment. Dreams and visions are not necessarily about the
Bible, they also involve words of wisdom or discernment about circumstances.
count. God is not restricted in the way he speaks to a person.
Recently for example I had a dream about a person in church, that she was shaking
hands happily chatting to people in church, but in the dream I knew there was
something wrong with her but no one else knew.
So in reality the next day, I texted her to ask if she was ok and I said I had a dream
in which she appeared to be okay but she wasn’t.
She was stunned and texted back to say she had severe anxiety and was having
panic attacks. We arranged to meet up and had a good long chat. She has since been
to see her doctor.
That was definitely a God moment. Dreams and visions are not necessarily about the
Bible, they also involve words of wisdom or discernment about circumstances.
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Thank you Miri and Ruby123, I hope and trust there was a misunderstanding as we are all to be one in Christ and continue in this life to be conformed to the image of the Son.
Thank you Miri, for acting on the word of knowledge you were given, I had a day of divine encounters and blessing yesterday as well, shared on GG's "update".
Thank you Miri, for acting on the word of knowledge you were given, I had a day of divine encounters and blessing yesterday as well, shared on GG's "update".
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