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FollowHisSteps

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Once we have Accepted Jesus, repented of our sins, been washed clean, we are given the gift of salvation. ALL our sins are taken away, forever, so we need never to repent because we have been justified, made righteous, sanctified, and though we sin, we are presented to God righteous through Jesus.

UNLESS YOU FOLLOW AND TEACH THE LAWS OF GOD AND YOU DO THE WORKS OF GOD.

OR IF YOU REPENT TO GOD FOR YOUR SINS DAILY


THEN YOU ARE A SALVATION LOSER?

OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN HALLOWED BE THY NAME THY KINGDOM COME THY WILL BE DON ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN, GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD, AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL FOR THINE IS THE POWER AND THE KINGDOM AND THE GLORY
In this interchange, this is pure provocation which you have fallen for.
Truth was never the argument, but playing to the audience of pride, provocation which causes an
outburst, which justifies the argument that it is just self justification in discussing right and wrong.

It is why dc and eg do not interact with me. Without the provocation response they lose because
it is they alone who are angry, so it shows their true intentions and nature, but they literally find this
impossible, so have to hide my words, because blowing up shows they have something deeply flawed.

Listen to what they did to Jesus, our path to follow.

67 Then they spit in his face and struck him with their fists. Others slapped him
68 and said, "Prophesy to us, Christ. Who hit you?"
Matt 26

We have no standing other than the truth of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and the truth of Christs
forgiveness and the fruit of repentance.

Who was it who hit Jesus? The most self assertive, religious people who though they sinned and
knew their sin, had power and authority, where happy to hurt the Lord of All, not for a moment
thinking one day they will face this judge. Just think about the words mocked here, and the belief
they have nothing to answer for, even in Christ.

It is hard for us to believe that people can know Christ, and yet behave this way, without even flinching.
But such is the strange world of the heart and the Kingdom of God. Praise the Lord, He teaches us even
at the worst of times and situations, to the Praise of His glorious name, Amen.
 

stillness

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Take your false non-biblical blather some place else pal....serious........
You can only speak for youself. What would you do if you take your advice seriously. Dont you know there is nowhere else to Go. Jesus alone has the Words of Eternal Life. We are not for real appart from Him. Falling from grace by trusting in achievment is clearly seen in the bible, whats your problem, that you want to be in control? Have you falen from Grace? Do you want to bee in charge? Do you think you have arrived? Have you stopped learning becaus. e you think you kknow God in your unserstanding...
 
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UnderGrace

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Jesus alone has the Words of Eternal Life.
Yes Jesus does and that is why would we put up walls against false Gospels which apparently seem to be winning the day presently,

however sadly I might add, thankfully though we know that false Gospels will not prevail, Truth prevails!!
 

OneOfHis

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It is why dc and eg do not interact with me. Without the provocation response they lose because
it is they alone who are angry

I stopped reacting to you because you wear a mask and would omit truth of which users you've been in the past even when asked nicely, through your double talk and sarcasm.


Also because you provoked brother TT using his sickness saying he will most likely be the one of us who dies first to inspire a worldly fear not of God in him to suit your purpose.


This which I've quoted is your more common tactic for baiting others. False accusations and subtle digs that are not said in truth.

You function more like a snake than any I have seen and have been at this for years. (you've been banned a few times at that)

They have grown tired, but are far from scared of "losing".

They simply knocked the dust off their shoes to one who rejects the truth and hides behind a mask.
 

FollowHisSteps

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Who? Be specific.
Hi Smooth,

My point here is not about who is the target of such language as explaining its meaning.
I have seen people call other believers worse than murderers because of the way they express faith.

Now the message of language can often be subtle about who is approved of and who is evil, while
not openly saying why, and some just follow like sheep, assuming the labels are true and the language
is biblical. So I precisely am not being specific about who is the target and who is speaking, it is just
manipulation like this is wrong, and is simple propoganda.

Are you aware some use these tactics? Your question makes me think, not.
 

DeighAnn

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THOSE are the "MANY" in Mat 7:13-23, who think their WORKS Counted for SALVATION, and that HE OWED IT TO THEM.
Can you imagine the surprised look on their FACES when HE will say this:

Matthew 7:23 (HCSB)
23 Then I will announce to them, I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
Are you VCO, saying or teaching if I get to heaven and it is found out I did works for God I will hear "I never knew you?"
 
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UnderGrace

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You can only speak for youself. What would you do if you take your advice seriously. Dont you know there is nowhere else to Go. Jesus alone has the Words of Eternal Life. We are not for real appart from Him. Falling from grace by trusting in achievment is clearly seen in the bible, whats your problem, that you want to be in control? Have you falen from Grace? Do you want to bee in charge? Do you think you have arrived? Have you stopped learning becaus. e you think you kknow God in your unserstanding...
Preaching salvation can be lost is a lie. End of story,
 

Smooth

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Hi Smooth,

My point here is not about who is the target of such language as explaining its meaning.
I have seen people call other believers worse than murderers because of the way they express faith.

Now the message of language can often be subtle about who is approved of and who is evil, while
not openly saying why, and some just follow like sheep, assuming the labels are true and the language
is biblical. So I precisely am not being specific about who is the target and who is speaking, it is just
manipulation like this is wrong, and is simple propoganda.

Are you aware some use these tactics? Your question makes me think, not.
Hi FHS. I know that no one is good in and of themselves. Thank God His grace is sufficient for everyone who has faith in Jesus Christ.
 

FollowHisSteps

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I stopped reacting to you because you wear a mask and would omit truth of which users you've been in the past even when asked nicely through double talk and sarcasm.
Also because you provoked brother TT using his sickness saying he will most likely be the one of us who dies first to inspire a worldly fear not of God in him to suit your purpose.
This which I've quoted is your more common tactic for baiting others. False accusations and subtle digs that are not said in truth.
You function more like a snake than any I have seen and have been at this for years. (you've been banned a few times at that)
They have grown tired, but are far from scared of "losing".
They simply knocked the dust off their shoes to one who rejects the truth and hides behind a mask.
I wear a mask?
I use double talk and sarcasm?

I provoked TT? Sadly with regard to TT, he is here no more. Warnings are not without reason, or love.

Unfortunately nothing mentioned above is about Jesus and His love, His example for us to follow, or
even the witness of the Holy Spirit to our hearts to bring Praise to His name.

I would suggest your mask accusation is about following Jesus and walking in His ways.
As one member testified, I am direct, to the point and never shy away from speaking what I see as the
truth. Those who crucified Jesus, never thought He was actually God, the creator of all, and that He
was totally innocent and one day will face Him to be judged. They thought He was faking it too.

So thank you for putting me alongside my Lord, and Halleluyah that I would be counted worthy of following
in His footsteps. Amen.

I do wonder continually about this fascination about banning, and behaviour.
I do not know who anyone is, because this is an anonymous forum, for people to interact to build each other
up in Christ to His glory. I pray and desire that all might find this blessing in Him, and learn to praise Him
and finally meet Him in eternity, Amen.
 
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UnderGrace

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I stopped reacting to you because you wear a mask and would omit truth of which users you've been in the past even when asked nicely, through your double talk and sarcasm.


Also because you provoked brother TT using his sickness saying he will most likely be the one of us who dies first to inspire a worldly fear not of God in him to suit your purpose.


This which I've quoted is your more common tactic for baiting others. False accusations and subtle digs that are not said in truth.

You function more like a snake than any I have seen and have been at this for years. (you've been banned a few times at that)

They have grown tired, but are far from scared of "losing".

They simply knocked the dust off their shoes to one who rejects the truth and hides behind a mask.
You have hit the nail on the head right here, I will take the straight talker any day.

With the straight talker there is no guile.
 

DeighAnn

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We have no standing other than the truth of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and the truth of Christs
forgiveness and the fruit of repentance.
Once, again thank you. It is amazing how my spirit can go back where it belongs with just the gentle nudge. I go back now to RE start out my day in prayer and repentance asking for my Daily Bread, and forgiveness and forgiving and thanking the Lord above for you and your words of wisdom and kindness.
 

DeighAnn

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Titus 3:1-2 (HCSB)
1 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work,
2 to slander no one, to avoid fighting, and to be kind, always showing gentleness to all people.
I wish to apologize for questioning you, I was blinded by anger, and have since realized I need to find a new approach. I am sorry I lashed out at you, I hope you will forgive me.
 

FollowHisSteps

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I do wonder continuously about making light of banning and behaviour?:unsure:
I have a confession to make, that sometimes people have truly hurt me.
It is strange to realise how one can be sincere, honest and open and then have enemies who claim
the name of Jesus. To talk about love, to find that love is then connected with mass murder, and
that those who speak about love lead this path to sexual exploitation and abuse is truly sad.

But truly the enemy knows how to use the wounded and hurt to get at the Lords people in some
very unexpected directions.

I was once told my childish reaching out to the Lord and placing my hands in His was actually
the enemy. I had never conceived anyone, especially not a believer would use this analogy.

Now I know better, that there are no bounds people will go when emotionally they intend hurt
over sense and righteousness. And from my heart, I forgive these people, because the level of
pain to drive them, when they know the same words and walk as myself with Jesus, is truly a
tragedy.

And in this as in all my sins and failures I need the Lords forgiveness, if I raise a finger to retaliate.
Sometimes there is a desire to show the logical failures of another, or to bring to light the
obvious weakness of a position, which maybe necessary, but unless the Lord inspires us, the fruit
may well not be to His glory.

21 I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.
Luke 10

What if some man exalts themselves highly yet is actually something very different than they appear?
Should we bring the truth in, or just let the Lords ways work through? The lesson I have learnt, is it
is in the Lords hands and not mine, Amen. God bless you.
 

DeighAnn

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Your light shines so bright. I can't imagine the hurt and pain Jesus felt in His heart. It doesn't end. But it is Gods Plan that, Gods Will be done. I listen to the Words of the Lord and I see them at work in your words. It is weird how a spirit and soul can be felt through the internet. I would ask if it were possible, but I don't have to, I feel it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Remember David every action,ever word of disrespect,name calling and derogatory remark you make is recorded in Gods records and if you fail to repent will be held against YOU! I think God can fight His own battles and I believe YOU ARE SELF APPOINTED! None of your responses are according to Christ law of love.Jn3:16 For GOD so LOVED the WORLD that HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ,that WHOSOEVER believes on HIM shall not perish. YOU should be DIRECTING others to HIS GREAT LOVE! It seems to me as though YOU seek YOUR OWN GLORY! Peace and love!
So what your saying is we should not be in love attempt in showing people who are preaching “another gospel” the way of truth, and know that some people. In the way they act and do, need to be confronted even more?