I don't think "done away with" so much as only applicable to those that they are applicable to. I don't own oxen, someone does. Yet a thief is a thief everywhere and should be dealt with the same. Heart and mind. Means using the Common Sense rendered from the wisdom and knowledge of God and the convictions God gives us from without and within. What you find sinful, I may not.
Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Aye Grandpa! Some twist more then others. Reckon, that's the purpose for edyifying.
Like a Berean. When God reveals something to me? I scour the Bible! And, at times? This sometimes leads to books, or writings not included in the "canon", or deleted that which "today's" Christendom, considers "The Bible." When this is added, and compared to that which is "in the canon?" It greatly deepened my understanding, of what the God, and Father wants from us in, and, by, and through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
The greater part of these understandings concerns the "government" on the shoulder of Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior, High Priest, and Kinsmen Redeemer.
I don't expect sheep, or sheeples, to understand, that which is seen in many of the "greetings" by the writers, of the N.T.
On the other hand? I challenge those that are happy in remaining that way. Just as I war with those who fight with those who wish to learn more then what they've been taught. Which is why after several years of getting bounced out of more then 1 "christian" chat room? I have found CC Chat. So, that by my postings, of my experiences gives cause for them to not give up. So, that they don't lose their faith!
It is because of these understandings, some readers ask me to elaborate, some ridicule me, and some just ignore me.
And, I'll continue in doing the same in here. As long as CC Chat will have me.
Must be doing something right. Still here after 4 years!
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No, always refer to the Written Word for to know the will of God. We are just not bound to death by breaking one, break them all. They are still Gods laws and should be heeded as such. So no, same laws everyone should use not bound. Hence thief charged same everywhere. What do you think? I have shared, your turn.
I believe I have been sharing, I believe I have said many times that I do not I think we should follow the written law of Moses, the letters.
We are not bound to death, but God will still punish us if we do not follow the letter of the moral part of the law of Moses? In your view?
To be honest, and I mean this gently as possible, I hear two different things from you. Sometimes, follow the letter of the law. Other times, follow what the spirit wrote on your heart which would be different than the letter.
We are not bound to death, but God will still punish us if we do not follow the letter of the moral part of the law of Moses? In your view?
To be honest, and I mean this gently as possible, I hear two different things from you. Sometimes, follow the letter of the law. Other times, follow what the spirit wrote on your heart which would be different than the letter.
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In the beginning was the Word. Do you think the Word, though always being the Living Word, and becoming God in the flesh also, was make like a son who has to start at the bottom of a big business and learn everything from the ground up, and we may be given partial recordings of such events?
If so, do you think that, wait, do you think there was an age before this one?[/QUOTE]
Do I think there was an earth/heaven age before the one we're currently in?
Yes! I most certainly do. Perhaps? Even more then one.
Where do you think Greek Mythology came from? Same planet. Different age. Zeus wasn't "king of the gods!" Thought he was though! More so like the "dragon" that "swept away" a 1/3rd of the stars of heaven with his "tail/tale." aka the attempted "overthrow."
Jeremiah 4
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers.
This is the earth/heaven age just prior to the one we're in currently.
Dinosaurs? Same planet. Different age.
If so, do you think that, wait, do you think there was an age before this one?[/QUOTE]
Do I think there was an earth/heaven age before the one we're currently in?
Yes! I most certainly do. Perhaps? Even more then one.
Where do you think Greek Mythology came from? Same planet. Different age. Zeus wasn't "king of the gods!" Thought he was though! More so like the "dragon" that "swept away" a 1/3rd of the stars of heaven with his "tail/tale." aka the attempted "overthrow."
Jeremiah 4
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers.
This is the earth/heaven age just prior to the one we're in currently.
Dinosaurs? Same planet. Different age.
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So basically. As I said. You are offering God your water which is tainted by urine (sin).
You claim to teach salvation by grace, but in reality you teach salvation by works. (In case you try to say, Scripture is clear, if it is grace it is not of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace)
AllI can say is good luck trying to earn your salvation. I just pray you realize, You will fail. Before its too late.
Ps. Salvation is by grace through faith (in God)
Not by mere belief,,
True faith works, so whoever is truly saved will work.
The fact is, if that person sleeping with abother woman can not get to heaven, Neither can any other sinner. Instead of worrying about whoever is commiting whatever type of sin yu think is real bad. Realise ALL sin (no matter how small) is that bad in Gods eyes. There are no such things as minor sins. The penalty of sin is death THE GiFT of God is eternal life.
You claim to teach salvation by grace, but in reality you teach salvation by works. (In case you try to say, Scripture is clear, if it is grace it is not of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace)
AllI can say is good luck trying to earn your salvation. I just pray you realize, You will fail. Before its too late.
Ps. Salvation is by grace through faith (in God)
Not by mere belief,,
True faith works, so whoever is truly saved will work.
The fact is, if that person sleeping with abother woman can not get to heaven, Neither can any other sinner. Instead of worrying about whoever is commiting whatever type of sin yu think is real bad. Realise ALL sin (no matter how small) is that bad in Gods eyes. There are no such things as minor sins. The penalty of sin is death THE GiFT of God is eternal life.
It was here that I realized it for the first time. "the morning stars and ALL the sons" as He is creating the earth, looking forward to what comes next. Gods game plan. All about getting what He wants in the end. How glorious it will be!!
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
11And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
12Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
13That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
11And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
12Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
13That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
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I can't agree with your assessment. This sounds like the "law of love", that enemies are forcing, and have forced the whole of Christendom, to be jammed down our collective throats.
"You are not to judge!"
As they keep widening the divide (that there never was supposed to be in the first place), betweenst "church and state.
Which gives myself, and others pertinent reasons in asking: "WHAT "law" is Christendom TO "stablish?"
Romans 3
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
As we can see all around us? "The law through faith?" (you can insert BY "traditions of man" here) is MAKING "the law" void!
"You are not to judge!"
As they keep widening the divide (that there never was supposed to be in the first place), betweenst "church and state.
Which gives myself, and others pertinent reasons in asking: "WHAT "law" is Christendom TO "stablish?"
Romans 3
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
As we can see all around us? "The law through faith?" (you can insert BY "traditions of man" here) is MAKING "the law" void!
