Didn’t God make all things Good?

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Dino246

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The world knows the world. .. I don’t fill myself up with heresy... Gnosticism , astrological magical beings. Nor do I know much about them to accuse someone else of practicing them. But you do. How so?
... in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes. 2 Corinthians 2:11.
 
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UnderGrace

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So can a magnet be a magnet with the negative in the equation? How far does east go to the west? Isn’t God the God of David and Saul.. how do you know what is in a man?
As with all Luciferian beliefs it is pure fantasy, stretching/twisting/misapplying scripture to fit a preconceived idea.
 
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TheWind

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This thread reminds of the Rolling Stones song............. Sympathy for the Devil
You are the one pushing gnosticism.

If you persist in doing so, you will be reported to the moderators, and you will be banned from the site.

Wow. Now your threatening me... tell me how I push Gnosticism when these are scriptures from the Bible? It’s all good. Only a few loved the truth. Many hated. This site doesn’t change nor make me who I am. Regardless of your threats. The only nastiness in the chat is your voice accusing me.
Shall I report you for your threats?
 
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UnderGrace

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Believe you? Or God? I am in the Christian chat room. Am I not a believer to be here as well?
Yeah well, as someone said, parking yourself in garage does not make you a car. :)
 

CharliRenee

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Didn’t God gave Adam free will as a man... “ IF YOU EAT OF THIS TREE...”. And he chose to eat from the tree knowing the consequence... Both he and his wife. I never read the snake was asked for a confession.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do... besides. All the snake did was ask a question... how man interprets direction and response would be only a guess. A test of faith maybe.
I will speculate many things as there is so much I do NOT know. However, I will not speculate this.

.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do...

He NEVER disguises Himself and He already knew what we would do.
 
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TheWind

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Yeah well, as someone said, parking yourself in garage does not make you car. :)

As I see. Just because you know scripture don’t make you a Jew. After all the priests were part of the crowd who killed Jesus. They studied a lot supposedly I’m sure
 
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TheWind

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I will speculate many things as there is so much I do NOT know. However, I will not speculate this.

.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do...

He NEVER disguises Himself and He already knew what we would do.
If he is a spirit. A spirit can take on any shape or form. How do you know what God would do?
 
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TheWind

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If he is a spirit. A spirit can take on any shape or form. How do you know what God would do?[/QUOTE

He can even come in the form of amsatan himself. Usually we’re you see the devil you see value. Therefore God talked evil for Good. So the serpent wasn’t bad. It was good. And God purpose is greater than anything’s intentions.
 
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UnderGrace

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If he is a spirit. A spirit can take on any shape or form. How do you know what God would do?[/QUOTE

He can even come in the form of amsatan himself. Usually we’re you see the devil you see value. Therefore God talked evil for Good. So the serpent wasn’t bad. It was good. And God purpose is greater than anything’s intentions.
And exactly what is this higher purpose?
 
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TheWind

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I will speculate many things as there is so much I do NOT know. However, I will not speculate this.

.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do...

He NEVER disguises Himself and He already knew what we would do.

God was wrapped in a coat of skin with Jesus. And they knew him not. Sounds like a fleshly disguise to me. Now What shall God do with us ? As he knows all things.
 

CharliRenee

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If he is a spirit. A spirit can take on any shape or form. How do you know what God would do?
Wind, I use my understanding of the verses that says...God Does NOT lie. Disguise, for whatever purpose, is a form of deception.

I do not care to speculate this further.
 
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UnderGrace

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If he is a spirit. A spirit can take on any shape or form. How do you know what God would do?
God would not act contrary to His character, this is foundational to any understanding of God.
 
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TheWind

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And exactly what is this higher purpose?

Was God not to manifested to dwell amongst his people??? What else would be the purpose of knowing all things. Whether Good or evil in man... Jesus knew them.... The Word is living. And alive. For offense an defense. For the kingdom God was making on earth. Well. That’s part my belief anyway. But then some only ask because they want to rebuke ... as we sit and chat.
 

Dino246

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Wow. Now your threatening me... tell me how I push Gnosticism when these are scriptures from the Bible? It’s all good. Only a few loved the truth. Many hated. This site doesn’t change nor make me who I am. Regardless of your threats. The only nastiness in the chat is your voice accusing me.
Shall I report you for your threats?
Apparently you can neither distinguish between a threat and a warning, nor between plain truth and animosity.
 
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UnderGrace

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Was God not to manifested to dwell amongst his people??? What else would be the purpose of knowing all things. Whether Good or evil in man... Jesus knew them.... The Word is living. And alive. For offense an defense. For the kingdom God was making on earth. Well. That’s part my belief anyway. But then some only ask because they want to rebuke ... as we sit and chat.

The cross denies everything you teach.
 

CharliRenee

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I do not appreciate being toyed with, nor does the Lord of hosts.
We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,
2 Corinthians 10:5 NASB
 
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TheWind

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Wind, I use my understanding of the verses that says...God Does NOT lie. Disguise, for whatever purpose, is a form of deception.

I do not care to speculate this further.
Deception is an act. Not a disguise. God does not deceive. Mans understanding deceives them... Which one of you prays for bread and God gives him a stone.
I will speculate many things as there is so much I do NOT know. However, I will not speculate this.

.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do...

He NEVER disguises Himself and He already knew what we would do.
I too believe he knew what Adam would do... therefore he sent the serpent. Deception is an act... a disguise is a disguise. Which one of you asks for bread and God gives you a stone. The Rod turned into a serpent and then back to a rod. God can be anything. A man.. a storm. A bird. A lion. What do you mean?
 
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TheWind

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Apparently you can neither distinguish between a threat and a warning, nor between plain truth and animosity.[/QUOTE


You know more about Gnosticism than me. And brought it into the conversation.. regardless. Threat or warning. I did nothing wrong. Nor did I say anything that was a lie.