BOMB thread.......sexual immorality!
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It is a two edged sword.
He requires holiness,but apart from Him we have no holiness.
We fail and get back up.
It says are sins are cast into the sea of forgetfulness.
Sin should break our heart.
His patience seems limitless. We still have a role.
Sin is like poop in a brownie.
"But its just a tiny bit of poop. You wont even taste it"
None of us is righteous. We desperately need Jesus.
He requires holiness,but apart from Him we have no holiness.
We fail and get back up.
It says are sins are cast into the sea of forgetfulness.
Sin should break our heart.
His patience seems limitless. We still have a role.
Sin is like poop in a brownie.
"But its just a tiny bit of poop. You wont even taste it"
None of us is righteous. We desperately need Jesus.
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Sexual immorality is an important subject.
The key issue is feeding desire or feeding love and care.
Innate within us is always sexual desire, because of our hormones. We came into life because of our
parents desire, and families and marriages are founded on pair bonding to create families.
Years ago some expressed the view to me to emphasise family was wrong, because desire was about
personal fulfilment as well.
The problem is sexuality is always with us, but our love in Christ can rise above, dealing with others
as brothers and sisters in Christ, irrespective of desire.
Some believers think intimacy is only sexual, when actually intimacy is about real love and care for
another. Our culture has focused too much on the physical and not enough on the personal and
commitment, being friends despite attraction and desire. So many relationships go wrong when desire
is the only reason for being together, rather than the beginning of something healthy and beautiful.
It is apparent here on these threads there are many divorced and separated people, carrying much pain
and hurt, and the emotions that go with this, are a mess. Paul encouragement was simple,
3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.
4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
Eph 5
1 Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers,
2 older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.
1 Tim 5
We are a family, in a real sense, with commitment and care, as well as boundaries and the ability to
get involved and also withdraw as appropriate.
The key issue is feeding desire or feeding love and care.
Innate within us is always sexual desire, because of our hormones. We came into life because of our
parents desire, and families and marriages are founded on pair bonding to create families.
Years ago some expressed the view to me to emphasise family was wrong, because desire was about
personal fulfilment as well.
The problem is sexuality is always with us, but our love in Christ can rise above, dealing with others
as brothers and sisters in Christ, irrespective of desire.
Some believers think intimacy is only sexual, when actually intimacy is about real love and care for
another. Our culture has focused too much on the physical and not enough on the personal and
commitment, being friends despite attraction and desire. So many relationships go wrong when desire
is the only reason for being together, rather than the beginning of something healthy and beautiful.
It is apparent here on these threads there are many divorced and separated people, carrying much pain
and hurt, and the emotions that go with this, are a mess. Paul encouragement was simple,
3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.
4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
Eph 5
1 Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers,
2 older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.
1 Tim 5
We are a family, in a real sense, with commitment and care, as well as boundaries and the ability to
get involved and also withdraw as appropriate.
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I have seen over and over where people talk PAST each other
not listening nor even bothering to consider what the other is saying
this ties into people accusing the OSAS crowd of ignoring scripture and causes the other side to be accused of adding WORKS and creating an equation for salvation rather than the simple thing it is...for us
having said that, there is NOTHING simple about actually following Christ
hence the everlasting, while time tick tocks on, impossible to reach conclusions
Paul calls salvation the firm foundation. a foundation laid by God Himself can hardly be improved upon but the building upon it that each of us constructs in our walk with Christ is certainly a beneficial discussion that rarely gets off the ground here
too many will call that walk works, because they are fearful some see it as a discussion about salvation etc
I have seen over and over where people talk PAST each other
not listening nor even bothering to consider what the other is saying
this ties into people accusing the OSAS crowd of ignoring scripture and causes the other side to be accused of adding WORKS and creating an equation for salvation rather than the simple thing it is...for us
having said that, there is NOTHING simple about actually following Christ
hence the everlasting, while time tick tocks on, impossible to reach conclusions
Paul calls salvation the firm foundation. a foundation laid by God Himself can hardly be improved upon but the building upon it that each of us constructs in our walk with Christ is certainly a beneficial discussion that rarely gets off the ground here
too many will call that walk works, because they are fearful some see it as a discussion about salvation etc
Sexual immorality is likened to Spiritual immorality. God hates both. OT refers to Israel playing the whore with the religions of the nations round about them and they received judgment as a result. Judgment including being carried away into captivity.
Those who engage in sexual immorality will be taken captive by their sins and not achieve any level of Spiritual significance. They will not grow in the truth and grace of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Those who engage in sexual immorality will be taken captive by their sins and not achieve any level of Spiritual significance. They will not grow in the truth and grace of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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it is apparent when reading the posts of divorced people or people suffering with their spouse having an affair etc etc, that most have joined to ask for help
sadly and all too often what they get are personal opinions and very little actual help
when it comes to divorce the Bible as a whole should be taken into consideration and not a one shot deliverance that any one person subscribes to the cure for it
yes we are supposed to be a family but it is my impression that some of the kids are bullies and or full of themselves and their answers to people in pain will reflect such
is divorce sexual sin? I don't think so. however it would be sin that leads up to it
nevertheless, there are provisions made for divorce
God Himself divorced Israel
when it comes to Paul, he also said it was better not to marry
do we, 2000 years removed from that statement, follow it?
not really
for that matter he also said it was better to marry then to burn
apparently God created us as sexuals beings and trying to stomp that into the ground does not work...ask the Catholic church how that works
to be sure, we should not follow or feed our sinful nature
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Shame is a subjective reaction when we sin. A healthy person feels shame when they sin.
One who has hardened their heart to sin feels no shame.
Modern counselling attempts to remove shame through psychological means, whereas a true counselor will explain how our guilt standing before God has been removed at Calvary and how shame can be removed after we sin, through repentance and confession of our sin by the blood of Jesus Christ..
One who has hardened their heart to sin feels no shame.
Modern counselling attempts to remove shame through psychological means, whereas a true counselor will explain how our guilt standing before God has been removed at Calvary and how shame can be removed after we sin, through repentance and confession of our sin by the blood of Jesus Christ..
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Yes, plus pornography. But it's really about lust in the heart which one can only examine ones self.
Jesus said to look on a someone and lust is equal to acting. Because it's about what we cultivate in our hearts.
And then there is a scripture that says give no occasion to gratify the flesh.
If you are not in a church that teaches this find a new church.
Jesus said to look on a someone and lust is equal to acting. Because it's about what we cultivate in our hearts.
And then there is a scripture that says give no occasion to gratify the flesh.
If you are not in a church that teaches this find a new church.
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remember the wedge is already established by the sin they are bound too. Unless repentance God does not hear them or those who are in Habitual sin. Jesus said in Luke 4:1819 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Jesus came to tell the Truth HE is the Truth, HE is the Way and HE is the Eternal Life Zoey. No other way. Holy means set a part from the world.
Jesus came to tell the Truth HE is the Truth, HE is the Way and HE is the Eternal Life Zoey. No other way. Holy means set a part from the world.
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