Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Romans 11
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL (!) the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
These verses? In "my" mind? And, by that which I have experienced, and am experiencing?
ANSWERS the "mystery" as to the WHAT& WHERE the "fulness of the gentiles" "END" is to be!
A resounding?
YES!
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24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL (!) the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
These verses? In "my" mind? And, by that which I have experienced, and am experiencing?
ANSWERS the "mystery" as to the WHAT& WHERE the "fulness of the gentiles" "END" is to be!
A resounding?
YES!
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I'm glad you've judged me on my capability, lord EG.
And I'm glad you've acknowledged the point I was making, even though you've somehow made it your point(??): that not every instruction was for everyone, but all were expected to carefully follow what was given.
I'm glad you clarified. Thanks
And I'm glad you've acknowledged the point I was making, even though you've somehow made it your point(??): that not every instruction was for everyone, but all were expected to carefully follow what was given.
I'm glad you clarified. Thanks
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Amen. Love is placed at the centre.
I whole heartedly agree, love in our hearts in the Kingdom of Heaven come to reign through
Christ and the cross.
Gods word works through us and comes to bring us to this place, where we are just bowed
before Him, honouring who He is and knowing the love He has placed within us, the power
of the Kingdom, eternity and love working its way through every aspect of our lives.
I whole heartedly agree, love in our hearts in the Kingdom of Heaven come to reign through
Christ and the cross.
Gods word works through us and comes to bring us to this place, where we are just bowed
before Him, honouring who He is and knowing the love He has placed within us, the power
of the Kingdom, eternity and love working its way through every aspect of our lives.
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Note the ALL CAPS identifies a PILLAR of your doctrinal position. If someone can undermine that position THEN WHAT? It's not all about bludgeoning someones errors as you may see them, but more about accentuating the Grace of God! You would find yourself in almost universal company! EG there will always be someone who understands more than you or I. Is it ever possible that we put ourselves in an unteachable position?
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I'm glad you've judged me on my capability, lord EG.
And I'm glad you've acknowledged the point I was making, even though you've somehow made it your point(??): that not every instruction was for everyone, but all were expected to carefully follow what was given.
I'm glad you clarified. Thanks
And I'm glad you've acknowledged the point I was making, even though you've somehow made it your point(??): that not every instruction was for everyone, but all were expected to carefully follow what was given.
I'm glad you clarified. Thanks
According to you.
Moses Lied. Paul Lied and James lied. in Fact God lied.
We will just leave it there.
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It does not matter
Hebrew roots is a dangerous proposition. It keeps people under law. It does NOT ALLOW people to find true sanctification. It keeps them focused on self instead of focused on others. And it is a false gospel.
The fact is. We have two ways to heaven according to scripture
1. The law.. No one has met this standard
2. Grace - Sadly few enter this way.
Grace and law can not mix, they are apposed to each other as for what they ar met to accomplish (one condemns, the other saves)
Hebrew roots is a dangerous proposition. It keeps people under law. It does NOT ALLOW people to find true sanctification. It keeps them focused on self instead of focused on others. And it is a false gospel.
The fact is. We have two ways to heaven according to scripture
1. The law.. No one has met this standard
2. Grace - Sadly few enter this way.
Grace and law can not mix, they are apposed to each other as for what they ar met to accomplish (one condemns, the other saves)
Problems arise, it seems, as can be witnessed in the BDF, as well as in the "world beyond the BDF", that people have this tendancy, in either being deceived, by man, or by forces within any particular believer, in the aiding of "self" deceiving oneself, that: "This "measure of faith" I have?" "Is a full measure!" (therefore) "There is no more faith, that I NEED, nor deisre!"
And this makes for (a) resistance, to any, IF not ALL efforts, in anyone's efforts towards "edification!"
Like leading a horse to water, so to speak. One can talk about it with posts, in explaining that there is indeed more faith, yea even more "Fruit of the Spirit" that needs tending to, in baring fruit, BESIDES "love!"
But, you can't MAKE 'em "drink" it!
Matthew 13
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;........
As one grows? It becomes more and more incumbent, or should anyway, in the rendering of these other types of ground, taught in this parable, into good ground!
And, so it is with "hot house lillies!" When their "root structure" has filled the pot they started in? They seem to flat out REFUSE to be placed in a larger pot!
Then? Out comes that "green-eyed" monster of jealousy. When people talk about the Kingdom in terms that are "over their heads, and beyond their root structure!"
Or? To explain it in a more suburbian, or landscaping way?
Ever see, or buy a tree, or seen a tree planted that has its roots all bound up, like in a burlap sack?
How much do you think that tree would grow, should those roots be encased in 55 gallon impenetrable steel drum?
And this makes for (a) resistance, to any, IF not ALL efforts, in anyone's efforts towards "edification!"
Like leading a horse to water, so to speak. One can talk about it with posts, in explaining that there is indeed more faith, yea even more "Fruit of the Spirit" that needs tending to, in baring fruit, BESIDES "love!"
But, you can't MAKE 'em "drink" it!
Matthew 13
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;........
As one grows? It becomes more and more incumbent, or should anyway, in the rendering of these other types of ground, taught in this parable, into good ground!
And, so it is with "hot house lillies!" When their "root structure" has filled the pot they started in? They seem to flat out REFUSE to be placed in a larger pot!
Then? Out comes that "green-eyed" monster of jealousy. When people talk about the Kingdom in terms that are "over their heads, and beyond their root structure!"
Or? To explain it in a more suburbian, or landscaping way?
Ever see, or buy a tree, or seen a tree planted that has its roots all bound up, like in a burlap sack?
How much do you think that tree would grow, should those roots be encased in 55 gallon impenetrable steel drum?
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Yes, and when we comment on these things we must bow low, lower than low. If to help one another to take that humble position where God many exalt us we are so close to exalting ourselves, and it makes me nervous, nervous like standing on a shaky ladder leaning against a flimsy branch! The possibility of good fruit better be worth the risk. I hope so and hopefully as my own fear of "calling out" is risky busniness put myself in a watchful position.
TWO ABSOLUTE GUARANTEES!
The humble Will be exalted
The Proud Will be humbled
TWO ABSOLUTE GUARANTEES!
The humble Will be exalted
The Proud Will be humbled
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Wow I did all of that huh? Those are serious charges. I'd say you're a false accuser of me your brethren, but that would be a counter-claim.
Thankfully we have an advocate with the father. The Greatest Attorney/Counselor heaven and earth will ever have. He'll plead my case.
Good day, sir.
Thankfully we have an advocate with the father. The Greatest Attorney/Counselor heaven and earth will ever have. He'll plead my case.
Good day, sir.
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No, why would i?
Moreover, i don't own livestock or farmland, and there isn't even any such thing as a temple shekel anymore, nor a priest to value the few tomatoes and herbs i grow, nor any Levite in temple service to receive it, so i could not tithe even were i to be shown to be obligated to.
Moreover, i don't own livestock or farmland, and there isn't even any such thing as a temple shekel anymore, nor a priest to value the few tomatoes and herbs i grow, nor any Levite in temple service to receive it, so i could not tithe even were i to be shown to be obligated to.
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Yet I keep posting what those three said and you keep telling me I am wrong, and that I need to look elsewhere, and every time I try to explain it to you. You keep directing me elswheere, meaning you evidently do not agree with what those three said.
Yes, Good day, You can take your hebrew roots and live under law..
me, I will focus on Christ.
Yes, Good day, You can take your hebrew roots and live under law..
me, I will focus on Christ.