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Hazelelponi

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However, clearly now I see from the Bible some people will hear and see and some people will always be blind while claiming they see and others have devoted their souls to satan. As you said though all I can do after I did my best to speak the truth is pray 🙏
My point is we have to pray BEFORE we speak, because we may be the ones in the wrong, and judging wrongly without discernment.

We have to make certain of our own doctrine before correcting everyone else.
 

Lanolin

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No way, Murican is the best English dialect. We speak English it with flavor. Rule 1 is free speech of Murica and we are the English tongue's masters! Murica, praise Jesus!
Nah what about the Irish, dont they have the gift of the gab?
 
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SpoonJuly

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While I do agree with you, maybe again we could try to inform with ❤. I often wonder can God see any differences between Christian websites and secular ones 🤔
That post was with love--
A love for the truth that is greater than the need to not hurt some one feelings.
I have also learned that with some folks, you must be " very in your face " or they will ignore you and this poster fits that type.
 
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Nah what about the Irish, dont they have the gift of the gab?
True they do, but Murica is better, but this makes me think of a conspiracy section idea that there may be a heavily irish connection in Murica being the best of all bards, praise Jesus.
 

Yahshua

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That post was with love--
A love for the truth that is greater than the need to not hurt some one feelings.
I have also learned that with some folks, you must be " very in your face " or they will ignore you and this poster fits that type.
I think he's referring to what Paul told the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 13:2:

"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing."
 

Leastamongmany

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Okay tell me what the erroneous thoughts are, so I'm enlightened. Also, tell me what I didn't find or what I did find in scripture that makes this incorrect.
Oh you will find out on your own the WHAT! I didn't say you said anything correct nor incorrect! Just BEWARE!☺😉😂 💖💖💖
 
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My point is we have to pray BEFORE we speak, because we may be the ones in the wrong, and judging wrongly without discernment.

We have to make certain of our own doctrine before correcting everyone else.
Yes I agree with that as well but if I am speaking words of Love and truth I know for a fact the Holy Spirit is speaking for me. And I dont feel any judgement at all I know that everyone has been lied to. Someone else had to teach that false prophet and now he's just teaching what he learned and he may even think it's correct. In fact and indeed he may even have a few good points. Really I was just confessing and pointing out things I notice in my life and others that may have us in all these chains.
 

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No way, Murican is the best English dialect. We speak English it with flavor. Rule 1 is free speech of Murica and we are the English tongue's masters! Murica, praise Jesus!
Regarding the best English dialect it is America and not murica.
 

Hazelelponi

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Yes I agree with that as well but if I am speaking words of Love and truth I know for a fact the Holy Spirit is speaking for me. And I dont feel any judgement at all I know that everyone has been lied to. Someone else had to teach that false prophet and now he's just teaching what he learned and he may even think it's correct. In fact and indeed he may even have a few good points. Really I was just confessing and pointing out things I notice in my life and others that may have us in all these chains.
The Holy Spirit will never disagree with scripture.
 
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SpoonJuly

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The title of this thread is ----
The problem is

I was always taught to say what you mean and mean what you say.
Be to the point, and use as few words as needed.

The problem is that far to many are more concerned about being perceived as rude or unloving so as not to just speak the simple truth.

Jesus loved the Pharisees, but he never worried about offending them with the truth.
His love was evident in that he always spoke the truth regardless of hurt feelings.
 

Dino246

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I find that super interesting, seems to me though had they left them right where they we're suppose to we might all have a better understanding of the Fear of God.
You're assuming that they aren't "where they we're (sic) supposed to be". You'll need to provide some evidentiary support for that assumption before using it as a basis for further argumentation.

Its crazy how I can admit to being deceived but no one else seems to be able to do that. I mean no one in the "canon" was ever deceived or tricked by the devil seems highly unlikely since the only perfect word is God.
Either your grammar is lacking, or you're smoking something toxic. Perhaps you could rephrase this?

But to your point just because it isnt "scripture" doesnt mean it didnt happen. So you'll live in your truth and I'll stand firm in mine. And of course there is no need to argue about it only learn a few things about myself and move on.
I said nothing about the events themselves, so don't assume that I did. Modern historical works aren't Scripture either, though they likely tell the truth of what happened.
 
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Regarding the best English dialect it is America and not murica.
I beg to differ, and I'm an ethnic Murican. None of the carnal nations can beat Murican language, praise Jesus. God Bless Murica!

 

Dino246

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No way, Murican is the best English dialect. We speak English it with flavor. Rule 1 is free speech of Murica and we are the English tongue's masters! Murica, praise Jesus!
You might be able to "speak English it with flavor" but you grammar it with gravel. ;)
 
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That post was with love--
A love for the truth that is greater than the need to not hurt some one feelings.
I have also learned that with some folks, you must be " very in your face " or they will ignore you and this poster fits that type.

Okay thank you now I see and understand. Sometimes I try to tell people you may have to say a cuss word or two or scream and holler at some people because sadly its the only language they understand. But as long as there life giving, chain breaking words I know God will forgive the cuss words, but some people just I dont know dont seem to understand. That each and everyone of our Faith walks with Jesus were tailor made specifically to each one of us. And yes if you see me doing something wicked or sinful please say something I need you to. But no one has the right to tell us how to walk along our own lonely roads except Jesus cuz hes the only one still beside us the further we walk down them. For instance, I can tell the homosexual that its wrong for him to be dressed like a complete girl complete with fake extensions and everything, but I'll only tell him why its wrong and let him know hell has no exits. I can not demand him to go change.
 

preston39

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I just said it was difficult because of all the wrong teaching thats been shoved into my head. And why yes I do need to all those things some folks say and the Bible says as well that I am saved by my Faith alone in Jesus Christ. But yes clearly I understand Faith should translate into repentance and holiness.
You are missing a very important point....the Bible does not teach you wrong and what you have allowed to..."be shoved into your head"...is not the fault of the Bible.

Validate all that is said to you...yes including what I am saying to you also...with the Bible.
 

CharliRenee

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My point is we have to pray BEFORE we speak, because we may be the ones in the wrong, and judging wrongly without discernment.

We have to make certain of our own doctrine before correcting everyone else.
1000 BAMs!!! Humility toward and guidance from our Lord.
 

PennEd

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Honestly, all I can do is keep crying out to the chain breaker and remember he didnt create me to be powerless against sin and evil. What I have to offer others is simple, freeing truth. And yes I do understand to take everything with a grain of salt. But if all scripture is God breathed why would these books ever be left out? The first chapter of Maccabees literally clarifies so many things in the regular Bible and it also describes the world today to an exact T because its the current state we're in today.
Are you catholic?
 

Lanolin

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What about the South Americans they dont all speak english. Arent they american too? And the Native Americans.
 

Nehemiah6

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What about the South Americans they dont all speak english. Arent they american too? And the Native Americans.
South Americans do not really think of themselves as Americans. Neither do Native Americans (who consider themselves as indigenous nations).

As to speaking English, since it has become the language of the world, it is used throughout the world.

Speaking of Americans as such, today there is a huge divide withing the USA, which is being deliberately encouraged in order to destroy America from within. In fact, billions of dollars are being spent to generate racial hatred and lawlessness.