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Gongshow let me tell you....her view, your view and everyone of you salvation losers can join hand in hand and it will not change the facts that SALVATION is by faith and it is eternally given....and the sad truth....none of you will find this out or accept it or believe it until the very day you find yourself in the MANY group trying and begging to enter based upon what you have done.........
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Well I wont remove this scripture from the bible
All Gods scriptures are important to me
1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will (depart from the faith) by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
All Gods scriptures are important to me1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will (depart from the faith) by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
Your not a Christian please dont full yourself. Nothing in you reflects Jesus what so ever.
This is why I turned away from a such a gospel. I am glad I did now. Because I don't want to be part of this hypocrisy anyone. Real Christian's strive to do what's right. Nothing in you cares about what's right and that's evident in your behavior. Your behavior also shows you lack love for God, because you purposely ignore all his commands. In the end that will be your fault not mine. You can answer to God for your behaviour towards others. This is why people hate religion because of this hypocrisy they see.
. Because I don't want to be part of this hypocrisy anyone. Real Christian's strive to do what's right. Nothing in you cares about what's right and that's evident in your behavior. Your behavior also shows you lack love for God, because you purposely ignore all his commands. In the end that will be your fault not mine. You can answer to God for your behaviour towards others. This is why people hate religion because of this hypocrisy they see.
I have a couple of theme songs for the workers for and salvation losers....
We'll work till Jesus comes
We'll work till Jesus comes
We'll work till JESUS comes and then get cast away
Amazing works how sweet the deal
That did not save a wretch like me
I once was lost and still not found
Because I did not trust in thee
We'll work till Jesus comes
We'll work till Jesus comes
We'll work till JESUS comes and then get cast away
Amazing works how sweet the deal
That did not save a wretch like me
I once was lost and still not found
Because I did not trust in thee
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Your not a Christian please dont full yourself. Nothing in you reflects Jesus what so ever.
This is why I turned away from a such a gospel. I am glad I did now. Because I don't want to be part of this hypocrisy anyone. Real Christian's strive to do what's right. Nothing in you cares about what's right and that's evident in your behavior. Your behavior also shows you lack love for God, because you purposely ignore all his commands. In the end that will be your fault not mine. You can answer to God for your behaviour towards others. This is why people hate religion because of this hypocrisy they see.
This is why I turned away from a such a gospel. I am glad I did now
. Because I don't want to be part of this hypocrisy anyone. Real Christian's strive to do what's right. Nothing in you cares about what's right and that's evident in your behavior. Your behavior also shows you lack love for God, because you purposely ignore all his commands. In the end that will be your fault not mine. You can answer to God for your behaviour towards others. This is why people hate religion because of this hypocrisy they see.
They hate religion because people like you BIND them down under fallacies.....
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By the way there is nothing wrong with selling nappies In woolworths, Coles or Target. I will do that. You sound like other OSAS believers in my church group. Who said people in low income housing should be removed from the area because they are (all) drug dealers. Judging people on their income or job isnt right and you might think you are better than others. But God might bring you down low one day, as i was. And make you HUMBLE.
You might want to re-read.......because it obviously went way above your head........and try context this time....here I will help...
SINCE you are whining I SAID...THEY SELL NAPPIES at..........I did not in any way, shape or FORM indicate your class or level of financial influence.......
No wonder you do not understand the bible....You cannot even get the context of plain English right when engaged
SINCE you are whining I SAID...THEY SELL NAPPIES at..........I did not in any way, shape or FORM indicate your class or level of financial influence.......
No wonder you do not understand the bible....You cannot even get the context of plain English right when engaged
It is directed at the faith that saves......this truth is also found in the verse that states....If we become faithless HE abides FAITHFUL because he cannot deny himself
This is how I break it down...
In the grace you are <---positioning and also bears out in Romans 5:1-2
Having been saved by faith <---the element that saves faith and testified to in a plethora of scripture
and that NOT of YOURSELVES <----the element that saves and salvation itself is NOT of US
It is the GIFT of GOD <---salvation cannot be earned....a gift is freely given
and NOT of works LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST <----exactly why NO WORKS will ever SAVE ANYONE if so we can brag
It is ALL JESUS or it is fraudulent......not of GOD, false and of the devil.....
This is how I break it down...
In the grace you are <---positioning and also bears out in Romans 5:1-2
Having been saved by faith <---the element that saves faith and testified to in a plethora of scripture
and that NOT of YOURSELVES <----the element that saves and salvation itself is NOT of US
It is the GIFT of GOD <---salvation cannot be earned....a gift is freely given
and NOT of works LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST <----exactly why NO WORKS will ever SAVE ANYONE if so we can brag
It is ALL JESUS or it is fraudulent......not of GOD, false and of the devil.....
The warnings against apostasy and loosing your salvation are plentiful,
Romans 11:20-22 - But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
Colossians 1:21-23 - Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation-if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
1 Timothy 1:18-20 - Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
Hebrews 6:4-6 - It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Hebrews 10:26-31 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God
2 Peter 2:20-22 - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.
2 Peter 3:17 - Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
1 John 2:24 - See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
Revelation 3:5 - He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. (Obviously your name can be blotted out)
Revelation 22:19 - And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
In Rev it even talks about a man's name being blotted out of the Lambs book of Life, which means it had to be written in and then REMOVED.
Romans 11:20-22 - But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
Colossians 1:21-23 - Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation-if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
1 Timothy 1:18-20 - Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith. Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
Hebrews 6:4-6 - It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Hebrews 10:26-31 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God
2 Peter 2:20-22 - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.
2 Peter 3:17 - Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
1 John 2:24 - See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
Revelation 3:5 - He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. (Obviously your name can be blotted out)
Revelation 22:19 - And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
In Rev it even talks about a man's name being blotted out of the Lambs book of Life, which means it had to be written in and then REMOVED.
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Thanks for your reply. I asked this question because I need healing to my knee and at church everybody says your knee is already healed it is because you lack in faith that it hasn't manifested yet. It is due to your unbelief. So I go into this frenzy of trying to build up my faith. So I am trying to find out whether faith comes from God or through our own works. I don't know if that makes sense or not ?
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That is pretty bad Ruby.....You KNOW....PAUL, an APOSTLE writes almost half of the N.T.....could raise the dead, cure the sick.....100% faithful tried three times to get his thorn in the flesh dealt with and all three times GOD said NO.....and PAUL concluded that GOD's grace was sufficient to deal with it.....sometimes God says NO even if we are faithful......just something to ponder..........trust GOD.....people make errors all the time
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