4 of Satan’s biggest lies to born-again believers

[BCsenior]

All of your sins (past, present, future) have been forgiven

“For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness,
and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his OLD sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NKJV)
>>> “OLD sins” is also in the KJV, RSV, NLT, AMP
“… having forgotten his purification from his FORMER sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NASB)
>>> “FORMER sins” is also in the ESV
“… forgetting that they have been cleansed from their PAST sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NIV)
>>> “PAST sins” is also in the HCSB

John is writing to his fellow Christians …
“But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all wickedness (unrighteousness).” (1 John 1:9, NLT)
“This is an extremely important verse … all men need to be repeatedly purified from
all unrighteousness – from all their sins … We must confess our sins and turn from them
… We must also confess them with our actions … (John) is talking here about repentance
… we must hate our sins and turn from them. This is true repentance.”
(The Applied New Testament Commentary; Dr. Thomas Hale, missionary to Nepal)

Paul warns the errant Corinthian church that their …
“godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation” (2 Corin. 7:9-10, NKJV)

You are now righteous

“… you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living …
So now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living” (Romans 6:16-19)

“… let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous just as He is righteous.
He who sins is of the devil … Whoever has been born of God does not sin (habitually)
… In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God” (1 John 3:7-10)

“… who fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him” (Acts 10:35)

“But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness and a godly life
… pursue righteous living” (1 Timothy 6:11, 2 Timothy 2:22)

You are now holy

“… give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living so that you will become holy.” (Romans 6:16-19)

“work at living a holy life, for those who are not holy will not see the Lord.” (Hebrews 12:14)

“God’s will is for you to be holy, so stay away from all sexual sin … live in holiness and honor.
… God has called us to live holy lives, not impure lives. Therefore, anyone who refuses to live
by these rules is not disobeying human teaching but is rejecting God” (1 Thessalonians 4:3-8)

“you must live as God’s obedient children … now you must be holy in everything you do,
just as God who chose you is holy. For the Scriptures say, ‘You must be holy because I am holy.’ ”
(1 Peter 1:14-15)

You have been saved and you can never lose your salvation

“… you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether (slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death,
or (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness” (Romans 6:16)

“For to be carnally-minded is (eternal) death, but to be spiritually-minded
is (eternal) life and peace.” (Romans 8:5-6)

“For IF you live according to the flesh you will die (eternal death); but IF by the Spirit
you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live (eternal life).” (Romans 8:13)

“For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption (eternal death),
but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.” (Galatians 6:7-8)

“Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved,
he will receive the crown of (eternal) life which the Lord has promised to those who
love Him … when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown,
brings forth (eternal) death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.” (James 1:12-15)
Jesus often said. “Those who love Me will obey My commandments.”

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

I see this as being true regarding all members of "the Church which is His body":

Colossians 2:12 -

"having been buried with Him in the baptism [see Romans 6:3], in which also you were raised with Him [G4891 - synēgerthēte] through [/by means of] the faith of the working of God, the One having raised Him out from the dead."

 

[FollowHisSteps]

All of your sins (past, present, future) have been forgiven

“For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness,
and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his OLD sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NKJV)
>>> “OLD sins” is also in the KJV, RSV, NLT, AMP
“… having forgotten his purification from his FORMER sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NASB)
>>> “FORMER sins” is also in the ESV
“… forgetting that they have been cleansed from their PAST sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NIV)
>>> “PAST sins” is also in the HCSB

John is writing to his fellow Christians …
“But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all wickedness (unrighteousness).” (1 John 1:9, NLT)
“This is an extremely important verse … all men need to be repeatedly purified from
all unrighteousness – from all their sins … We must confess our sins and turn from them
… We must also confess them with our actions … (John) is talking here about repentance
… we must hate our sins and turn from them. This is true repentance.”
(The Applied New Testament Commentary; Dr. Thomas Hale, missionary to Nepal)

Paul warns the errant Corinthian church that their …
“godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation” (2 Corin. 7:9-10, NKJV)

You are now righteous

“… you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living …
So now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living” (Romans 6:16-19)

“… let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous just as He is righteous.
He who sins is of the devil … Whoever has been born of God does not sin (habitually)
… In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God” (1 John 3:7-10)

“… who fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him” (Acts 10:35)

“But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness and a godly life
… pursue righteous living” (1 Timothy 6:11, 2 Timothy 2:22)

You are now holy

“… give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living so that you will become holy.” (Romans 6:16-19)

“work at living a holy life, for those who are not holy will not see the Lord.” (Hebrews 12:14)

“God’s will is for you to be holy, so stay away from all sexual sin … live in holiness and honor.
… God has called us to live holy lives, not impure lives. Therefore, anyone who refuses to live
by these rules is not disobeying human teaching but is rejecting God” (1 Thessalonians 4:3-8)

“you must live as God’s obedient children … now you must be holy in everything you do,
just as God who chose you is holy. For the Scriptures say, ‘You must be holy because I am holy.’ ”
(1 Peter 1:14-15)

You have been saved and you can never lose your salvation

“… you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether (slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death,
or (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness” (Romans 6:16)

“For to be carnally-minded is (eternal) death, but to be spiritually-minded
is (eternal) life and peace.” (Romans 8:5-6)

“For IF you live according to the flesh you will die (eternal death); but IF by the Spirit
you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live (eternal life).” (Romans 8:13)

“For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption (eternal death),
but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.” (Galatians 6:7-8)

“Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved,
he will receive the crown of (eternal) life which the Lord has promised to those who
love Him … when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown,
brings forth (eternal) death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.” (James 1:12-15)
Jesus often said. “Those who love Me will obey My commandments.”

A little too simplistic.
All of your sins (past, present, future) have been forgiven
All of your sins have been forgiven - when we come to Christ this is true, because we have
repented of our sins and accepted the cross as the atoning sacrifice.
This does not change our potential or remove our struggles with sin

You are now righteous
We are righteous because we have been forgiven and have faith in Jesus.
Imputed righteousness through faith is our state. But if we sin, we need to repent and get
right with God. It is our faith that maintains our righteousness and not our behaviour, but
our behaviour will destroy our faith if we continue in wilful sin.

You are now holy
We are holy, as God cleansed people. It is the washing in Christ that makes us holy,
and why the Holy Spirit can dwell within us.

You have been saved and you can never lose your salvation
The cross brings us security of salvation, and maintains our fellowship in the Spirit.
Denying this dependency that salvation is abiding, living, loving is not faith.
Being sealed without the desire to stay abiding and staying, is not salvation.
Knowing we can walk away is not the same as actually doing it.

 

[BCsenior]

Satan and his demons have always been hard at work
deceiving as many humans as possible ...
to get them to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire with them,
because they know that's where they're going to end up!

That's how jealous they are of us, and how much they hate us!

Probably, the 2nd major deception was when
Satan (or one of his high-ranking angels)
appeared to Mohammed, saying he was Lucifer.
He lied about (a non-existent god called) Allah,
saying he sent him with the latest "truth" from heaven.

Then, poor deceived Mohammed had the Qur'an written,
resulting in many more millions of humans being deceived.

When people are spiritually deceived, they can believe all kinds of nonsense.

Take this Qur'an for instance (I've read 2 different translations of it).
In some places it says to leave the Jews and Christians alone,
while in other places it calls them infidels
and says to kill them where ever you find them!

 

[gb9]

Satan and his demons have always been hard at work
deceiving as many humans as possible ...
to get them to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire with them,
because they know that's where they're going to end up!

That's how jealous they are of us, and how much they hate us!

Probably, the 2nd major deception was when
Satan (or one of his high-ranking angels)
appeared to Mohammed, saying he was Lucifer.
He lied about (a non-existent god called) Allah,
saying he sent him with the latest "truth" from heaven.

Then, poor deceived Mohammed had the Qur'an written,
resulting in many more millions of humans being deceived.

When people are spiritually deceived, they can believe all kinds of nonsense.

Take this Qur'an for instance (I've read 2 different translations of it).
In some places it says to leave the Jews and Christians alone,
while in other places it calls them infidels
and says to kill them where ever you find them!

this is true, but the here is the biggest lie-

belief and faith and trust in Christ is not enough and will not save you, you have to earn or maintain your salvation.

that is the biggest lie.

 

[BCsenior]

this is true, but the here is the biggest lie-
belief and faith and trust in Christ is not enough and will not save you,
you have to earn or maintain your salvation.
that is the biggest lie.

From my previous post ...
When people are spiritually deceived, they can believe all kinds of nonsense.

Dost thou believest that all the verses in the OP are lies?
If so, thou must really have the heebee-gbs, gb9!

Ignoring/rejecting the Truth does not make it go away!
It's always there condemning people.

 

[Nehemiah6]

You are now righteous

Why have you omitted the doctrine of imputed righteousness, where God declares that you are righteous, by grace through faith? Christians have a duty and obligation to present God's truth, not their own ideas.

 

[BCsenior]

Why have you omitted the doctrine of imputed righteousness,
where God declares that you are righteous, by grace through faith?

How many trillions of times do I have to repeat ...

All of your above was true INITIALLY when you were born-again (if you actually were).
However, all that you initially received must be MAINTAINED through obedience, etc.

 

[UnderGrace]

How many trillions of times do I have to repeat ...

All of your above was true INITIALLY when you were born-again (if you actually were).
However, all that you initially received must be MAINTAINED through obedience, etc.

So Jesus failed?

 

[gb9]

How many trillions of times do I have to repeat ...

All of your above was true INITIALLY when you were born-again (if you actually were).
However, all that you initially received must be MAINTAINED through obedience, etc.

nope. total lie.

Paul clearly states that our salvation is NOT of ourselves, but a gift of God.

so, if one has to properly obey, then that makes it of oneself .

obedience is a result of salvation , not a maintainer.

 

[JaumeJ]

How many trillions of times do I have to repeat ...

All of your above was true INITIALLY when you were born-again (if you actually were).
However, all that you initially received must be MAINTAINED through obedience, etc.

Your post is understandable by any who will understnd it. God bless you always.

 

[Nehemiah6]

However, all that you initially received must be MAINTAINED through obedience, etc.

Quite obviously you do not really understand the Gospel, nor the grace of God, nor the finished work of Christ, nor God's plan of salvation.

Obedience to Christ is indeed necessary for all Christians. But that is not for maintaining one's salvation, but for working out one's salvation.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

I was sharing an saw something different.
We are Holy because the Holy Spirit dwells within us. It is His presence that makes us Holy because
He has chosen to abide in our lives.

Ofcourse we have not earnt this, it is the result of His gift of faith and His new birth in our hearts.
It is also why sin burns holes in us, because our hearts cry out against our behaviour and thinking,
desiring that we might know and walk in His ways, Amen.

Dear Lord continue that dear work in our hearts, minds and lives as we abide in you and in your word,
Amen.

 

[BCsenior]

These is an error in post #4 ...
corrected to read ...

Probably, the 2nd major deception was when
Satan (or one of his high-ranking angels)
appeared to Mohammed, saying he was Gabriel.
He lied about (a non-existent god called) Allah,
saying he sent him with the latest "truth" from heaven.

 

[BCsenior]

Obedience to Christ is indeed necessary for all Christians. But that is not for maintaining one's salvation, but for working out one's salvation.

There are many NT verses, which are supposed
to teach us, warn us, etc. that salvation can be lost.

 

[BCsenior]

I was sharing an saw something different.
We are Holy because the Holy Spirit dwells within us.
It is His presence that makes us Holy because
He has chosen to abide in our lives.

Have you ever seen any NT verses which warn about the Holy Spirit leaving us?
But, even though He dwells in us ...
we can still become estranged from Christ and fall from grace (Galatians 5).
Agreed?

 

[UnderGrace]

Have you ever seen any NT verses which warn about the Holy Spirit leaving us?
But, even though He dwells in us ...
we can still become estranged from Christ and fall from grace (Galatians 5).
Agreed?

"Fall from grace" is not loosing salvation.

"Falling from grace" is turning back to the law.

 

[BCsenior]

John 14:23
“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him,
and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

What do we make of this?

If a BAC does NOT love Jesus and obey His commandments,
does the Trinity (via the Holy Spirit) continue to indwell him/her?

 

[BCsenior]

"Fall from grace" is not loosing salvation.
"Falling from grace" is turning back to the law.

Okay, great ... we a have a new definition of grace!

We have God's grace, if we are not following the Law.
But, we fall from God's grace, if we are start following the Law.

 

[gb9]

Okay, great ... we a have a new definition of grace!

We have God's grace, if we are not following the Law.
But, we fall from God's grace, if we are start following the Law.

the letter to the Galatians was written as a warning to not turn from trusting Christ for salvation and turn back to keeping the Law of Moses. so, yes, in that instance " falling from grace " means turning back to the Law.

I hope you are not one of those Bible-thumpers who just throws out verses and attaches your own meaning instead of actually knowing what you are talking about. don't be that guy. you make us all look bad.