I agree with what you wrote .. how can you disagree with anything I said - lol .. just kidding, I truly believe all I say or I wouldn't say it but not all need to agree with me as, of course, you are entitled to be wrong .. again, just kidding .. upon rereading what you said about fulfilling the one command IF we love our brother, not hate him, I guess I would have to ask what does such love entail .. love requires action, so what action(s) would loving our brother require ..
Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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I agree with what you wrote .. how can you disagree with anything I said - lol .. just kidding, I truly believe all I say or I wouldn't say it but not all need to agree with me as, of course, you are entitled to be wrong .. again, just kidding .. upon rereading what you said about fulfilling the one command IF we love our brother, not hate him, I guess I would have to ask what does such love entail .. love requires action, so what action(s) would loving our brother require ..
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I have newsflash for you salvation is not even given based on our contrition for sin, repent does not mean to feel sorry for one's sin... so
your whole argument is based on faulty understanding.
It is faith that is counted for righteousness.
Simple; doing to others what you would like to be done to you.
Pay no attention. He does that to almost everyone. He won't respond, including saying G-d's word is ..."babble", etc..
it doesn't hurt me Sister! I find my joy in the Lord. I pray for my enemies b/ c even I realize that they can be so called " christians" Blessings,stay strong!Wow someone dislikes this post. That's a little bit hurtful.
You mean like you do accusing those who believe in OSAS as using it as an excuse to sin.
Like that lady at the bus stop who told you that God loves you then looked down on the alcoholic guy.
If memory serves me you thought "Why not tell this man he was loved by God"
A was at the bus stop a few years ago and a women told me "God loves you", then she looked down on a man with missing fingers, who had a drinking problem and gave him evil eyes. Why not tell the drunk man that God Loves him. But no she looked down at him with disgust. Such fake love, only choosing who you will love.
Alot of you people are exacly like this women from OSAS. You look down on others with disgust and I read your comments
Now what was a funny question to ask yourself given that you were not a Christian at the time, as you said.
Yet later on you said you went to a church where OSAS was preached.
I tried to address this and asked questions.
One I did not ask was that "Did that church look down on you?
If so I'm glad you left it.
But please do not harp on about being accused when you yourself accuse.
Discussion and accusations are two totally different things.
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That’s conditional life my friend. That’s law. That’s self righteousness that’s anything but the gospel and it is most certainly NOT ETERNAL LIFE
Romans 7:8 -
"But [the] sin, seizing its opportunity through [/by means of] the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from the Law, sin is dead."
Romans 7:11 -
"For [the] sin, seizing its opportunity through [/by means of] the commandment, deceived me and through [/by means of it] the commandment put me to death."
"But [the] sin, seizing its opportunity through [/by means of] the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from the Law, sin is dead."
Romans 7:11 -
"For [the] sin, seizing its opportunity through [/by means of] the commandment, deceived me and through [/by means of it] the commandment put me to death."
We are commanded to treat some people as unbelievers if they refuse to repent of sinful
behaviour. Treating a believer in Christ as a deceiver, evil, satanic, leading people to hell,
and going to hell themselves is enough to isolate them in all good conscience before the Lord.
We stand before the Lord in all things, and such behaviour comes from a heart that has little
sensitivity or ability to see how wrong this is, in a real eternal perspective.
But once this divide is understood, things are fine. They will continue in their previous
behaviour because for them nothing has changed. God bless you.
OSAS Eternal security gospel or working for salvation do not free us from our sinful lifestyle.
The Holy Spirit in us frees us from our sinful lifestyle.
Jesus in us does that.
An alcoholic like you were was set free and healed from it by Jesus.
An alcoholic who has no faith can stop drinking as well yet they stop.
Yet they have no gospel either way.
As I said to a post you made earlier which I did not see a response, well you did but it was tersery, and when I even said I thank God that he healed you from your alcoholism and would use you like he has been using me to bear fruit and do the good works prepared for you, your response was flippant at the least.
I only beared fruit when I rejected OSAS.
Did not even address the question "I hope God is using you to help others who were like you"
I hope you are not like that woman you met at the bus stop.
You did not even have the courtesy to say "I thank God healed you even though I jumped the fence opposite the one you know sit on and I was freed from gambling.
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The power of sin is in the law not grace, therefore grace is not a license to sin
Grace is the solution to the problem, not the problem, and stating the grace is a "license to sin" is a slander against grace, you do realise this right?
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I am up north will be returning tomorrow. 98 expectedThe weather today is horrible, stifling, energy killing heat!!
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It is always better near the water. I have been to northern Michigan it is lovely there.
One has to ask the question.
If some are belivers and they refuse to repent then we need to consider whether they are belivers.
We cannot consider that until we come alongside.
Now if we address the situation with them, using Romans 5-6 and they reject it and say something like "I can sin all I want and still be saved"
Then shake the dust off our feet.
Yet if they hate what they do then let's walk with them.
I'm fed up with people who say "Well just stop it"
When people seek help to tell them that will have the affect of being condemned.
After all if they could just stop it then they would not be seeking help.
If there is an affect there will always be cause.
Are we willing to be used by Jesus to to reveal the affect of just to add to the cause.
When people are willing to be used by Jesus to be used for those who genuinely want release then let's go for it.
If not shake the dust off our feet and walk away.
Believe Jesus save, and If you stop believe not save.
The police Will not pull you as long as you drive at 55 oN the free way that post mas 5
If you chang your speed to 65 you subject to get speeding ticket
You tell the police
I was drive 55 for 10 hour, and just at 65 for 3 minute,
Police say, the law say it is unlawful to drive more than 55
You say u was believe in Jesus but not anymore, why I am not save
Jesus as a judge say
Only believer save, you no longer believer than you lose your salvation
If you believe to the end of your life, you save forever not temporary.
You temporary believe and stop believe before you die, why you expect save forever.